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Mad Men - Season 6 - Sundays on AMC

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CarbonatedFalcon

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maharg said:
I think he'd be able to relate to him better after that. I mean, then his son will truly be living in his world: a perfect target for advertising.

But really I think Don'll be dead before 1977 anyways.
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Speaking of which - you think we'll get a flashforward in the final season? An epilogue?

I'm not sure if Don will necessarily end up dead, but I do think there's a good possibility that he goes back to being Dick Whitman. The scene goes something like he's meeting someone new and you get that classic Don Draper look, but he introduces himself as Dick.

Anyway - I've been catching up on old seasons. Only started watching the show proper last year with season 5 and I'm currently midway through season 4. Will rewatch S5 as well since things will make more sense after getting filled in on all the backstory. Odd to know that Don ends up with Megan when she's just been a background character so far. Will be interesting to see how that pans out.
 
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Bladenic

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CarbonatedFalcon said:
Speaking of which - you think we'll get a flashforward in the final season? An epilogue?

I'm not sure if Don will necessarily end up dead, but I do think there's a good possibility that he goes back to being Dick Whitman. The scene goes something like he's meeting someone new and you get that classic Don Draper look, but he introduces himself as Dick.

Anyway - I've been catching up on old seasons. Only started watching the show proper last year with season 5 and I'm currently midway through season 4. Will rewatch S5 as well since things will make more sense after getting filled in on all the backstory. Odd to know that Don ends up with Megan when she's just been a background character so far. Will be interesting to see how that pans out.
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Honestly I don't even want to think about the end of the series. One because I will be sad when it's over. Two, and more importantly, because I really feel like pulling off a great and satisfying end to this amazing series is gonna be a huge task that will surely leave some disappointed. Hopefully I'm in the satisfied camp.
 
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CRS

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Mr. Saturn said:
So what was up with Don's monologue regarding his kids?

Does he love or even care about them or what? Because at first with all the talk of pretending to be proud, and not feeling anything it seems he was indifferent to them, but then he talked about seeing them do something that made him feel what he was pretending to feel.
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I got the feeling that after that "Jesus" line from Planet of the Apes, he felt that feeling of love for the first time. Not sure if that's going to apply to the other two kids but at least he has it for Bobby now.
 
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Mr. Saturn

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CRS said:
I got the feeling that after that "Jesus" line from Planet of the Apes, he felt that feeling of love for the first time. Not sure if that's going to apply to the other two kids but at least he has it for Bobby now.
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I was thinking it had something to with that. I just didn't think it would affect Don that much.

Artemisia said:
Did I miss an episode? I just started the new one now, and in the 'Previously on Mad Men' reel they showed a scene with Don and his children in the car, and another scene with Betty in the tub. I don't even remember Betty being present in the last episode at all.
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Nah, you didn't miss anything, both of those scenes were from season 5.
 
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Artemisia

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Did I miss an episode? I just started the new one now, and in the 'Previously on Mad Men' reel they showed a scene with Don and his children in the car, and another scene with Betty in the tub. I don't even remember Betty being present in the last episode at all.
 
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Hours Left

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Artemisia said:
Did I miss an episode? I just started the new one now, and in the 'Previously on Mad Men' reel they showed a scene with Don and his children in the car, and another scene with Betty in the tub. I don't even remember Betty being present in the last episode at all.
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Those were from last season. They showed the scenes because they were related to tonight's episode.
 
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ClassyPenguin

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&Divius said:
God what a fantastic episode. Pretty heavy but there we're a lot of funny moments as well.
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Lots of awkward lol moments and it was pretty well paced. Very good episode.
brianjones said:
holy shit

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(sorry im posting so much tonight i had too much to drink)

wheres benjaminbirdie goddamnit
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msXIrQqvDzU

All I could think of in that scene.
 
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Tim the Wiz

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Mr. Saturn said:
So what was up with Don's monologue regarding his kids?

Does he love or even care about them or what? Because at first with all the talk of pretending to be proud, and not feeling anything it seems he was indifferent to them, but then he talked about seeing them do something that made him feel what he was pretending to feel.
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He faked loving them until he actually did.
 
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JPKellams

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CRS said:
I got the feeling that after that "Jesus" line from Planet of the Apes, he felt that feeling of love for the first time. Not sure if that's going to apply to the other two kids but at least he has it for Bobby now.
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It wasn't just the Jesus line. Think about every time Don has been seen in a movie theater/watching a movie. The "people go to movies when they are sad" thing was probably an even bigger trigger. Especially since Don does nothing to verbalize his feelings about the King assassination. His son is exhibiting the same ability he has to find the motivations in human emotions.
 
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BFIB

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This season is ramping up big time.

I've been trying to rack my brain on possible ways this show will end, but I can honestly say, I have no idea.

Except when that day hits, I will be a sad, sad man. No Mad Men or Breaking Bad?
 
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Cornballer

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Content Roundup - Episode 5 - "The Flood"

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Videos:
- Inside Episode 605 Mad Men: The Flood (youtube)
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion, youtube)
- Janie Bryant on Costumes in Episode 605: Inside Mad Men (youtube)


Reviews:
- Sepinwall
- Onion A|V Club
- Maureen Ryan
- Rolling Stone
- Slate.com
- The Atlantic
- Salon.com
- EW.com
- Zap2It
- Tom & Lorenzo (Mad Style will be up later this week)


Other:
- AMC Q&A: Vincent Kartheiser (Pete Campbell)
- THR: Matthew Weiner Talks Photography, Nude Scenes With Gregory Crewdson
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Bladenic said:
I love Ginsberg. I hope he gets some pussy.
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Me too. I loved seeing more of Ginz this episode.

Y2Kev said:
Wow, Pete on the side of not being a scummy scumshit. Don't know how to process.
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It's easy to be indignant over something when you are actually upset/angry over something else. We just saw the IRL equivilent of nerd rage. Pete's still a scumbag, he's just taking it out on somebody who's more transparently scummy.

Zeus Molecules said:
Stan barely holding the laughs in needs to be giffed.
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I guess we know the answer to the question, does Roger still do acid. I presume this was one of his trip buddies. Anyone else think Stan was high?

Cornballer said:
Weiner grits his teeth as AMC plays a promo over his carefully selected music.
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And me, too.

Zeus Molecules said:
who said this episode was going to suck
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I didn't like it that much. Felt a little dull. But then again, I'm solidily of the belief that these are hour-long chapters that don't always have to stand on their own.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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peterb0y said:
Neighbor as in just upper east, not in the same building or anything. I doubt anything would have come from it, especially not now since she didn't get the apt and her man doesn't wanna live there.
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I was confused by this, I thought Don lived close to the park. In fact, I thought they showed his address once and I google-mapped it.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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So, what exactly did Megan win for? Did they say? And did I understand correctly that it was for something she worked on along with Peggy (therefore Peggy won, too)?

Also, I figure the Betty storyline is going to drag Don's past back into the light. Do they do background checks for state senators? How much would the press pry?
 
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Leona Lewis

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Ignatz Mouse said:
So, what exactly did Megan win for? Did they say? And did I understand correctly that it was for something she worked on along with Peggy (therefore Peggy won, too)?
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For her Heinz commercial idea (multiple generations of mother serving child baked beans). The one that saved the Heinz account last season during Don/Megan's dinner with the Heinz exec.
 
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jtb

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Ignatz Mouse said:
It's easy to be indignant over something when you are actually upset/angry over something else. We just saw the IRL equivilent of nerd rage. Pete's still a scumbag, he's just taking it out on somebody who's more transparently scummy.
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Agreed. Good for Pete to not be a racist, but he's still a dick.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

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Yeah. Pete has genuinely progressive views, but what he's blowing at Harry is all his frustration and fear about his family. I just read Sepinawall, and he's right that Pete's call with Trudy is really great. Dude's scared and really wants to come back, but could never say that.
 
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ari

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Cornballer said:
"I don't think anyone is in the mood."
"It's quite the opposite. Now is the time when a man and a woman need to be together the most. In a catastrophe! In the Flood, the animals went two by two. You, you're going to get on the Ark with your father?"
"I can find my own girls, ok?"
"Ok. I'll bring you a sandwich."
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Good writing all over the place last night. Lol
 
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Cornballer

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- Ad Age: Yep, That's How the Ad Biz Reacted to a 1968 Tragedy
Can this depiction on "Mad Men" possibly be how the ad industry really dealt with one of the most horrifying moments of the 20th century, a murder that threatened to destroy the civil-rights movement and push an already-fragile country toward the brink? Did they really think it was enough to have a half-assed assassination intermission, as though on a break during "Bye Bye Birdie"?

Actually, yes.

The Advertising Club of New York this morning confirmed the depiction of events in last night's "Mad Men," and there's an old New York Times account of the evening that also shows that this episode hews especially close to history (link here, but subscription required). The Fourth Annual Andy Awards, put on by the Ad Club, were under way that night, with Paul Newman saying a few words about his support for Eugene McCarthy. Then, as Times writer Philip H. Dougherty chronicled it, "A man stood up amid the formally dressed assemblage in the Grand Ballroom and asked, 'Do you know, Mr. Newman, sir, that Martin Luther King is dead, sir? What have you to say?'"
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On The Edge of Insanity

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I enjoyed last night's episode. A slower pace than last week, but lots of interesting, albeit subtle, developments.

I took Bobby's pulling away of the wallpaper as symbolic of him reaching an age at which he is starting to gain an understanding of the world and can begin to claw away at the pretty facade and see the ugliness that lies beneath.

I think Don finally saw a little of himself in Bobby at the movie theatre, bringing about the first true feeling of love that he describes to Megan later on. It seems unlikely that he will suddenly become a devoted father overnight, but it will certainly be interesting to see how this plot line develops.

I took the theme of the episode as being characters realising that they have it good when it comes to their family and loved ones: Don's feeling of love towards Bobby, Pete realising how lost he is without Trudy and child, and Peggy finding out that Abe wants kids/sees a long term future for their relationship.
 
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CRS

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PlatinumGamesJP said:
It wasn't just the Jesus line. Think about every time Don has been seen in a movie theater/watching a movie. The "people go to movies when they are sad" thing was probably an even bigger trigger. Especially since Don does nothing to verbalize his feelings about the King assassination. His son is exhibiting the same ability he has to find the motivations in human emotions.
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Do you think that's a reason why Don was so emotional that night? Because his son is going to grow up just as emotionally stunted as he was?
 
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Dany

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Fantastic episode. It was truly amazing. I loved Joans hug and how Dawn seemed really out of breath. Like she didn't want to be home or afraid to go home. :/
 
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Niraj

I shot people I like more for less.
Great episode, probably my favorite of the season so far. It really felt like it was much longer than it actually was, great pacing.
 
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PolishQ

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CRS said:
Do you think that's a reason why Don was so emotional that night? Because his son is going to grow up just as emotionally stunted as he was?
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I thought it was more that his son reached out to the janitor and actually addressed what was happening. He showed sympathy and empathy, which surprised Don (who is lacking in those areas).
 
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B For Bendetta

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Anyone read The Yellow Wallpaper by Charlotte Perkins Gilman? Read it in college multiple times. Probably completely unrelated, but it was all I could think about as soon as Bobby looked at the wallpaper unaligned. Given what someone posted regarding the significance of color in the show, I wonder if there are parallels to be drawn between Bobby's blue wallpaper and Gilman's protagonist's yellow. Again, huge stretch, but it was all.I could think about regarding the wallpaper
 
Jackben

Jackben

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A lot of people here might benefit from that recent NPR interview Cornballer posted a few pages back. Basically says why the promos at the end are such a joke (Weiner hates them and if he had the choice they would not exist at all) and that there will be little closure at the end of Mad Men. Weiner specifically states it WILL end ambiguously and that people should be prepared for that.
 
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Cornballer

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Content Roundup - Episode 5 - "The Flood"

2y549jB.jpg


Videos:
- Inside Episode 605 Mad Men: The Flood (youtube)
- Promo for next week's episode (please spoiler tag any discussion, youtube)
- Janie Bryant on Costumes in Episode 605: Inside Mad Men (youtube)


Reviews:
- Sepinwall
- Onion A|V Club
- Maureen Ryan
- Rolling Stone
- Slate.com, Part 2
- The Atlantic
- Salon.com
- EW.com
- Zap2It
- Tom & Lorenzo (Mad Style will be up later this week)
- Matt Zoller Seitz
- Esquire
- NY Times
- New Republic
- Grantland
- TV.com
- Alyssa Rosenberg
- IndieWire
- Deborah Lipp

Other:
- AMC Q&A: Vincent Kartheiser (Pete Campbell)
- THR: Matthew Weiner Talks Photography, Nude Scenes With Gregory Crewdson
- Ad Age: Yep, That's How the Ad Biz Reacted to a 1968 Tragedy
- The Atlantic: A Pivotal 'Mad Men' Scene, as Written by the New York Times 45 Years Ago
- Grantland: Mad Men Power Rankings, Episode 605: 'The Flood'
- NPR's Fresh Air this week: Matthew Weiner On 'Mad Men' And Meaning

EDIT: Tim Goodman's review for THR
 
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kirblar

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Jackben said:
A lot of people here might benefit from that recent NPR interview Cornballer posted a few pages back. Basically says why the promos at the end are such a joke (Weiner hates them and if he had the choice they would not exist at all) and that there will be little closure at the end of Mad Men. Weiner specifically states it WILL end ambiguously and that people should be prepared for that.
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Yeah, I'm not expecting an "end" so much as an "end of us seeing these characters."
 
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Frost_Ace

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This episode reminded me a lot of the Kennedy one, loved it to bits, the atmosphere was maybe too heavy and dark at times but the scene at the end with Bobby and Don was the sprinkle of hope the episode needed.
 
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