probably intentionally designed that way for claw style players
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Madcatz reveal Street Fighter V Arcade Sticks and Fight Pad
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Barkley's Justice
Member
No one confused why the Fight Pad Pro seemingly has a wire/cable?
Is that some "hardcore" fighting posturing or something? "TEH LATENCIEZ BRO," etc?
Is that some "hardcore" fighting posturing or something? "TEH LATENCIEZ BRO," etc?
pillowtalk
Member
I'm guessing the rapid button options are still gone on the TE2+.
This looks really nice, I assume it's just usb and will work on PC as well. Can't seem to find it anywhere though.
I've never heard of such thing.
theyre all wired.
From the Amazon listing for one of them:
Reliable USB Connectivity: The world's best fighters prefer a low-latency USB connection. A 13ft/4m USB cable on this Street Fighter arcade stick keeps you at a comfortable distance from your TV
Because wireless controllers have been problematic in tournaments.
The entry level one looks like a kid's first fight stick. Those pictures don't do it justice I'm assuming. I know I want a new TES+, just don't know if I want to part with my 360 OG TE or 360 Fight Stick Pro.
Barkley's Justice
Member
I can see how a wired connection on the arcade sticks would cater to that market. But fight pads, yo? Surely that's just some simpleton consumer shit, right? Wireless makes more sense there imo...Or why not both? Have both options built right in. Kinda corny.
Hitoribhoshi
Member
Owning a Titan one, I can tell you it lags. (cronus is an unofficial copy and can only induce worse lag)
Honestly, my take on all this is, keep your stick, get a cheap soldering iron, end stripper and some tin and a ps360+ or a Hori FC4, learn how to solder (gonna be really easy to do, no pcb modding involved with the ps360+, just solder the wires), and save money, and learn something.
win/win situation in my book.
Hellshingu
Member
There are top players that use pads too you know.
NoctisVsStar
Member
There was an incident at an EVO where someone from the audience paused a match using a wireless controller. Those are the kinds of problems I'm referring to.
EVO doesn't allow wireless controllers at all now iirc.
Yeah it doesn't looks great but I started out with this as my first stick and I bet the Alpha is even better.
You can do that?!
Most people won't play with an arcade stick and it's not really necessary either?
Louffy did well without one. SnakeEyez as well although he hasn't won an EVO. Good players will be good no matter what they use.
The FC4 does, so I'm sure this will as well.
Why are arcade sticks necessary to grow the genre?
supposedly releasing in Japan on 12.17
thelastword
Banned
Yeah, just plugged it in again, I've had it packed up since the SF5 beta stopped and even for that I've gone back to my DS4 when they unleashed Mika and Birdie. When Gief is unleashed it will be the DS4 for me completely.Might as well stick with the DualShock 4. The rubber holding the dpad on the FC4 is very fragile. I'd only suggest you to get one if you can find it for cheap.
There's also this model available
In any case I had no idea they made a Commander Pro with equal length handles, I'd have preferred if they were longer, but the balance here is still better. I also hate the adjustable dpad on the one I have, it has a tendency to shift after a few play sessions, even if I lock it. And yes, there's generally some cheap rubber on the pad itself, the share, options, turbo buttons are all very cheap rubber, you hardly feel those when you press them.
They are indeed useful. My problem is that the bottom two are triggers, they should be flat buttons instead like on the commander pro. It's much easier to press these in a fighting game to engage your ultra etc..., depressing a trigger is tremendously awkward due to it's inward depth.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Do I really need touchpad functionality on a stick?
I'm honestly wondering. I don't have a PS4.
I'm honestly wondering. I don't have a PS4.
you could just save money and continue using your wireless dualshock
or keep going on about "teh latencies" and how you're so much better than them because wires are corny yo
whichever suits you
PadWarrior
Member
That's the fighting commander pro 3. Used to have one. Dpad was really stiff and you couldn't map all 8 buttons to the right. Came out years ago
NoctisVsStar
Member
convenience i guess.
should work with PC no problems and yes PS3 as well.
Hellshingu
Member
It was one of the criticisms towards the first PS4 TE2 since games like MKX used the touchpad functionality for training mode. Hori sticks came with touchpads that were released around that time. They are just keeping up with the competition.
Yes they will work on all 3 right out of the box.
PadWarrior
Member
That image is the fighting commander pro 3. Only works for PS3 and came out years ago. I had it
Amazing news! Definitely getting the TE S+ then.
It's very useful in training mode. Since there's no "select" button anymore, it's used in training mode to reset position, show commands...that kind of thing.
It's not necessary, but it is definitely convenient.
they have a newer one coming out on 12.17, $29.99 from Play-Asia
You can pre-order
http://www.play-asia.com/fighting-commander-for-playstation-4-playstation-3/13/709efx
PadWarrior
Member
Well I'll be
I'm tempted now how reliable is play asia
Space Runaway
Member
Yeah I'm not really sure about that shape either. I find the d-pad questionable too. I really need to try it out.
Mixed messages!
Oh, excellent.
I don't read Japanese, but it looks like it supports xinput and dinput.
They arent, but now the barrier of entry for sticks is way higher because of "reasons". Controllers are completely viable, but they arent for everyone when it comes to fighting games. Some people can make them work, but most cant. When people watch a stream and see a bunch of people with sticks they might be interested in the product, and the genre. Before, they were sub 150, hell some of them were sub 100, completely affordable, and approachable. Now, the price is so high, that the price tag acts as a deterrent.
Play Asia is reliable but their shipping costs are usually super high. Amiami is much better when it comes to prices in my opinion because they offer a lot of shipping options, most of which are cheaper than P-A's.
http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=GAME-0015498
dragonzdogma
Member
Um, Can I use the PAD for BloodBorne?
I'm weired like that, guessing not since it's lacking the R stick right?
I'm weired like that, guessing not since it's lacking the R stick right?
PadWarrior
Member
Thanks!
NoctisVsStar
Member
there's your answer, however for 2d games like megaman you can play that on your PS3/4/PC or other games that dont need the Rstick
Guys I think there is a pricing error on the Amazon.ca!
The TES+ can be ordered for CDN$ 164.99 and the TES2 for CDN$ 204.99.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B018AW405K/
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B018AW408C/
Go, go, go.
I couldn't decide which I wanted so I ordered both for now. With the crap Canadian dollar these will be in the $300 and over range when the correct prices go up.
The TES+ can be ordered for CDN$ 164.99 and the TES2 for CDN$ 204.99.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B018AW405K/
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B018AW408C/
Go, go, go.
I couldn't decide which I wanted so I ordered both for now. With the crap Canadian dollar these will be in the $300 and over range when the correct prices go up.
Both Hori and Madcatz have sub-100 dollar sticks.
Hori's next tier stick is 150.
Madcatz is 200.
Similar to last generation.
What's the problem?
MOST people buying fighters aren't using sticks. MOST people you see on stream is not indicative of the millions of people buying SF. MOST people, by far, are going to use a DS4 to play SF5, and if you tell them that a controller is more than 50 dollars, they'll think it's silly to spend that much.
Thanks, bookmarked.
Going to have to compare shipping to Finland once the pad is out.
Baleoce
Member
Seems they've cut the right analogue since the earlier prototype:
I get why. But I'd have definitely used them as a perma P2 for other non fighting games. Still gonna buy one.
Also, incase it wasn't posted earlier, I saw these closeups of the d-pad posted on twitter:
https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/672428548347396096
I get why. But I'd have definitely used them as a perma P2 for other non fighting games. Still gonna buy one.
Also, incase it wasn't posted earlier, I saw these closeups of the d-pad posted on twitter:
https://twitter.com/MarkMan23/status/672428548347396096
Since TE2s are constantly sold out on PS4, I'd say you're wrong. People are definitely willing to pay the premium on sticks. Don't see what a 3DS has to do with anything, lol. Who cares how much a handheld is. Has nothing to do with the prices of accessories.
Hori has a 150 dollar option for everybody that thinks 200 is too much.
A slightly ot question, why arcade sticks are so huge?
Look at the difference between the alpha and the others
Look at the distance between the normal buttons and the function buttons, isn't more comfortable to have them close like in the alpha? And what's the point of all that unused space at the left of the stick or the one at the right of the buttons for example? Arcade Sticks are usually almost empty inside, in fact you can put things inside the mortal kombat arcade stick
Look at the difference between the alpha and the others
Look at the distance between the normal buttons and the function buttons, isn't more comfortable to have them close like in the alpha? And what's the point of all that unused space at the left of the stick or the one at the right of the buttons for example? Arcade Sticks are usually almost empty inside, in fact you can put things inside the mortal kombat arcade stick
A slightly ot question, why arcade sticks are so huge?
Look at the difference between the alpha and the others
What's the point of all that unused space at the left of the stick or the one at the right of the buttons for example? Arcade Sticks are usually almost empty inside, in fact you can put things inside the mortal kombat arcade stick
Space to rest your palms. Length so that it's comfortable to sit in your lap. Space inside the case for the stick and buttons to fit comfortably. Ergonomics. I hate the alpha. I wouldn't want my stick and buttons to be so close, that's hella uncomfortable for me. I love larger sticks. It's one of the reasons I don't like the HRAP case and can't wait for the fightingedge. can comfortably rest my hands on the case without it hanging off, super solid feel on the plexi, and a striking design.
The MKX stick is based on an american stick and those buttons and sticks take up more space in the case.
Ragnorok64
Member
A slightly ot question, why arcade sticks are so huge?
Look at the difference between the alpha and the others
Look at the distance between the normal buttons and the function buttons, isn't more comfortable to have them close like in the alpha? And what's the point of all that unused space at the left of the stick or the one at the right of the buttons for example? Arcade Sticks are usually almost empty inside, in fact you can put things inside the mortal kombat arcade stick
Many prefer a larger heavier arcade stick. Especially if you're going to be playing with it on your lap. Also, extra space on the play area of the controller helps accommodate additional grip/play styles.