There's only a few possibilities here:
1) RNH AND Ultron are both mafia
2) Both are town
3) RNH is mafia and has a non-kill role
You better post your list of information quick, RNH.
There's only a few possibilities here:
1) RNH AND Ultron are both mafia
2) Both are town
3) RNH is mafia and has a non-kill role
You better post your list of information quick, RNH.
It is certainly possible he's the mafia role blocker or something like that. Palmer, if he has the claimed Do Nothing role, wouldn't know he was blocked.
He said earlier he gets no result message.Wouldn't get some feedback that his sleep walking was "unsuccessful"?
I got the last of the prod responses yesterday, but yesterday and today I only have mobile access to GAF and can't finish the results up properly. My sincere apologies to everyone who got their stuff in on time. I will be back home by 6:30 GMT tomorrow and the update should follow that very shortly.
Welcome!
You are a Medical Student.
You are aligned with the Tourists.
You are a trainee medical student, who sought a nice vacation before a return to study - but it looks like you may get a medical test sooner than you expected. Once per night phase, you may visit one player by PMing me with the command SAVE: Crab. Should that player have been the target of another action that phase which kills, they will not die as a result. You may not self-visit. If you save someone successfully, the thread will be informed that person was saved successfully but they will not be informed of your identity.
You win when only Tourist-aligned players remain.
The game thread is here.
EDIT: The wording of this PM has been changed to be more specific. Where it once read:
"Should that player have been the target of another action that phase which kills, they will not die as a result. You may not self-visit. If you save someone successfully, the thread will be informed that person was saved successfully but they will not be informed of your identity."
it should instead read:
"Should that player have been the target of another action that phase which kills, they will not be affected as a result. You may not self-visit. If you prevent someone from being outright killed that phase, the thread will be informed that person was saved successfully but they will not be informed of your identity."
This clarification was made 10/03 DD/MM.
Crap. Nin was the third person that visited Timeaisis on Night 2 along with Karkador and QuantumBro.
We didn't get told that anyone was successfully saved that night. So that certainly throws the original "two were town, one was Mafia" theory for a loop.
No one visited QuantumBro last night.
I'll definitely have to think/rethink on some stuff with this new info. Wanted to get all my info out as soon as possible without much theorizing first though.
Why role claim to stop a lynch vote so late in the day, and then further risk death by Mafia before actually DOING anything that helps town?
Unless...Crab can you clarify something for me? If Person A was visited by a killer and a doctor AND a medical student who both protected him, would one have priority over the other? Would we still be notified that the medical student "saved?" Person A? Or would the doctor "protect" Person A and the medical student effectively has no effect?
Damn, that's a powerful role gone.
I would have switched my vote from Robot during the previous phase if he had posted a full list of activities, but I'm still suspicious that he didn't/hasn't.
Why role claim to stop a lynch vote so late in the day, and then further risk death by Mafia before actually DOING anything that helps town?
Also, another single death night. A kill might have been blocked somehow, skipped, or they could legitimately be down to only one possible kill a night. Too many variables to feel confident about any of them.
I'm curious why nin1000 was targeted. An unlucky target swap, maybe?
I'll protect RNH tonight.
whoops
Okay, I have a confession to make. At the start of the last day, I didn't reveal important information. ultron87 was successfully saved during Night 5; this information should have been revealed at the start of Day 6. I'm very sorry for not spotting this earlier. I've redoubled back very carefully going through every PM and action and checked every single night and day just to make sure that I've not made any other mistakes, and I haven't. If this has significantly changed the course of the game, I am very deeply sorry. From what I can judge, it doesn't appear to have done given only a day and a night have passed and I hope very much that I've put this in before disrupting things earlier.
EDIT: @Zipped; yes, there will be a full list of night actions. I type them up and record them precisely so I don't make mistakes like the above, unfortunately I missed that part of nin's role because it is passive and not active.
El Topo is right that not lynching is a bad move for us. It just gives the Mafia more time to takes us out one by one during the night.
Oh geez.
Thanks for the save Nin, wherever you are. Sorry I couldn't do anymore to keep you alive besides not naming your name.
I wonder if the Mafia has a role similar to mine that can see who it would've been that saved me. That would explain how they sniped Nin out of the crowd.
Other than that, I'm starting to suspect QuantumBro again. He hasn't died yet, even though he has a very powerful role. Have we outwitted the mafia that well in protecting exactly who they would be targeting, and they've just chosen to ignore QuantumBro? I don't know. Furthermore, he said he would protect hornets just before last night began, which seemed like a weird move to me. It was the last thing said.
I mean, why? RNH wasn't proven to be mafia, nor town. If he would have died, so what? Is it worth switching him with some other random person that is equally likely to have been town/mafia? That gains us nothing, especially when we already decided (by that point) to not lynch.
I'm starting to suspect that QuantumBro is a really, really good mafia player, the way he's potentially manipulating the game with his claims. We're basing a lot of our theories on him being a town-aligned switcher. But that above comment makes me suspicious.
As for protecting RNH, I only did so because the town vote made it clear that they believed RNH's role claim and wanted to see the notes, so I made sure RHN wasn't killed. You'l note, I didn't switch my vote when she roleclaimed since I was waiting for her to produce her notes which she never did. If you're looking at anyone with suspicion, it should be the ones who switched their vote at the last minute.
And my big "Secondary killer can only kill on alternating nights" theory is still in play. Just with the caveat that Nin1000 saved Ultron on that night, instead of the Role Blocker blocking the secondary killer.
Who did you switch him with? I'm interested
I think your theory has fallen apart with the news we learned today. The only time Nin protected someone successfully was on Night 5. Timeaisis wan't targeted on Night 2, otherwise we would have gotten a notification the next day. I'm convinced that there are a few one time kill roles scattered throughout the village and mafia players.
AbsolutBro. Which means the Mafia didn't target RNH last night.
Wait, what? Who did I get switched with for what now?AbsolutBro. Which means the Mafia didn't target RNH last night.
Two votes for me, from players with roles that have zero corroborating evidence. You know, nothing actually supports the idea that QuantumBro has ever switched anyone (or the people he has claimed to switch).
Before you vote, I'd like to know the rationale, especially in light of what we just learned about nin's role.
Sorry for being inactive this round; real life got a lot busier, and I haven't had a lot of time to think about Mafia, let alone post on GAF.
The lack of deaths last night can seem a bit perplexing, since multiple variables are still in play; but I do think that someone may have exercised their right to not kill- or maybe there is still someone among us who can survive night attack
As for who I healed last night, I think I'm going to not say it this this time, as a little experiment. Also, I'd rather not give away who the killers are free to target tonight.
I will, however, remind people that I can't heal the same target twice in a row.
With that said, here is a reminder of who I healed before last night:
Night 1 - Myself
Night 2 - Timeaisis
Night 3 - Myself
Night 4 - Palmer
Ultron, I don't like that we have to keep arguing about this, despite how clear it is that I'm trying to help you. I backed you up because I think your story checks out, and I want the Town to have something they can rely on. Again, if I had not backed you up, it would have only made you persecute me harder, anyway - and if I had not backed you up, you wouldn't seem as credible to other players.
Let me put this another way - if I was mafia, I probably would have killed you already. Sorry to be blunt about that, but I'm much more interested in having you live.
Wait, what? Who did I get switched with for what now?
Two votes for me, from players with roles that have zero corroborating evidence. You know, nothing actually supports the idea that QuantumBro has ever switched anyone (or the people he has claimed to switch).
Before you vote, I'd like to know the rationale, especially in light of what we just learned about nin's role.
Vote: Karkador
So we have two doctor-esque roles that both happened to visit the exact same person on night 2, I find that hard to believe. Also, I can't believe that we would have two doctor-esque roles in a game where there is clearly only one Mafia kill a night. Obviously Karkador didn't try to kill Timeaisis that night since we didn't get a notification that anyone was saved by Nin, but that doesn't mean he can't be a support role for the Mafia.
Bolded for emphasis. I think you (and the rest of the mafia) did try and kill ultron, but were stumped by nin1000 as we now know.
Bolded for emphasis. I think you (and the rest of the mafia) did try and kill ultron, but were stumped by nin1000 as we now know.
You also failed to vote yesterday which is not helpful to the tourists.
Plus the stuff about two doctors makes sense to me.
And now I'd like to add something to that, nothing actually supports the idea that Karkador has ever protected anyone (or the people he has claimed to protect).
There are nights with less than two kills, and even a night with no kills. I've stated my list of heals multiple times.
Your list means about as much as mine does without any evidence showing that someone was protected on those nights. Would you be able to tell me the differences between your role and Nin's?
For the record, by my count, neither odd you have has an affect on the game (in terms of preventing someone's death).
I do think one of you is lying. I still lean towards QuantumBro. But I'm gathering my thoughts on the matter before jumping onto a vote.
It's still really weird QuantumBro is still alive...
Who'd you protect last night, Kark?
My power sends heals through letter owls, of course.
Seriously, though, it's kind of hard to explain - other than that it will be harder without nin around; and for that matter, I don't see the Town winning this game if I get killed at this point.
But let's really slow down and look at a night-by-night review of the deaths and survivals.
Seriously, though, it's kind of hard to explain - other than that it will be harder without nin around; and for that matter, I don't see the Town winning this game if I get killed at this point.
But let's really slow down and look at a night-by-night review of the deaths and survivals.