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Magic: the GAFering |OT2|
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Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I vividly remember thinking Ponder was getting the axe in the hight of Delver, but not Preordain
Standard and Modern are different formats. Wild Nactal was never considered bannable during its T2 format and Blazing Shoal would do jack all if it were reintroduced to T2.
As for Preordain, I well aware of how good the card is. What I'm saying its that there is a BIG difference between the larger MTG community saying "damn that card is pretty good and sees play everywhere, maybe they will/should ban it?" and WOTC R&D saying "we were THIS close to banning Preordain but decided to go with Jace and Mytsic instead" or "Preordain is unequivocally too good for T2".
As for Preordain, I well aware of how good the card is. What I'm saying its that there is a BIG difference between the larger MTG community saying "damn that card is pretty good and sees play everywhere, maybe they will/should ban it?" and WOTC R&D saying "we were THIS close to banning Preordain but decided to go with Jace and Mytsic instead" or "Preordain is unequivocally too good for T2".
"God's Beard!"
Member
So if I'm playing mono-black after rotation, would this be a good idea to mess around with?
4 Thoughtsieze
4 Tenacious Dead
4 Gnawing Zombie
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Lifebane Zombie
3 Dark Prophesy
3 Grim Return
2 Fireshrieker
3 Liliana, Of the Dark Realms
3 Erebos, God of the Dead
2 Hythonia the Cruel
3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
21 Swamps
4 Thoughtsieze
4 Tenacious Dead
4 Gnawing Zombie
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Lifebane Zombie
3 Dark Prophesy
3 Grim Return
2 Fireshrieker
3 Liliana, Of the Dark Realms
3 Erebos, God of the Dead
2 Hythonia the Cruel
3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
21 Swamps
Of course snaps was the main reason, but turn 3 kill with naya blitz and turn 4 kill with red aggro is possible on this standard. Lightning helix would be a huge blowout.
I was talking about Standard.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";80961953]So if I'm playing mono-black after rotation, would this be a good idea to mess around with?
4 Thoughtsieze
4 Tenacious Dead
4 Gnawing Zombie
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Lifebane Zombie
3 Dark Prophesy
3 Grim Return
2 Fireshrieker
3 Liliana, Of the Dark Realms
3 Erebos, God of the Dead
2 Hythonia the Cruel
3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
21 Swamps[/QUOTE]
Get a Blood Bairn in there. Combos well with Tenacious Dead.
I wonder if Crypt Ghast has a place in mono-black.
I'd throw in Desecration Demon in there. 4cmc 6/6 that adds two devotion. I'd probably run it over Liliana.
Need some target opponent sac cards like Devour Flesh or Far/Away.
I hate getting hit by Duress T1 but maybe that's more of a sideboard card than main.
Profit/Loss maybe good sideboard vs a token's deck. I choose that over Illness in the Ranks because Loss could also hit Young Pyromancer. This over Shrivel since you have some 1/1 creatures of your own.
I forget if Tragic Slip is rotating out, but if so, Quag Sickness may be the go to card to take care of Indestructible god creatures.
I'd probably take out the Grim Returns or at least one and try out Read the Bones!
I'd run Underworld Connection over Dark Prophecy.
4 Thoughtsieze
4 Tenacious Dead
4 Gnawing Zombie
4 Hero's Downfall
4 Lifebane Zombie
3 Dark Prophesy
3 Grim Return
2 Fireshrieker
3 Liliana, Of the Dark Realms
3 Erebos, God of the Dead
2 Hythonia the Cruel
3 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
21 Swamps[/QUOTE]
Get a Blood Bairn in there. Combos well with Tenacious Dead.
I wonder if Crypt Ghast has a place in mono-black.
I'd throw in Desecration Demon in there. 4cmc 6/6 that adds two devotion. I'd probably run it over Liliana.
Need some target opponent sac cards like Devour Flesh or Far/Away.
I hate getting hit by Duress T1 but maybe that's more of a sideboard card than main.
Profit/Loss maybe good sideboard vs a token's deck. I choose that over Illness in the Ranks because Loss could also hit Young Pyromancer. This over Shrivel since you have some 1/1 creatures of your own.
I forget if Tragic Slip is rotating out, but if so, Quag Sickness may be the go to card to take care of Indestructible god creatures.
I'd probably take out the Grim Returns or at least one and try out Read the Bones!
I'd run Underworld Connection over Dark Prophecy.
divisionbyzorro
Member
The amount of people who want Wizards to unban Stoneforge Mystic in Modern so they can put her into bad decks is adorable. And real. And very vocal.
And very obnoxious.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Unearth anything for 4 mana. Seems cool.
AWESOME!!
crimsonspider89
Banned
Well, black just got there ability to use erebos's draw engine more.
The whip 's primary effect is fun.
The whip 's primary effect is fun.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Hm, not really getting the flavor of the horse. Isn't the whole point that its a trap in disguise? This seems like its only upside for the opponent. Although I guess in multiplayer every player other then you also gets soldiers.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Seems about running with anthems type strategy and swing with 2-3 to get damage through.
It's a Trojan Horse. You gift it to an opponent only for them to find an army at their door. It's pretty straightforward and awesome.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Oh wait, reading the article if I give it to an opponent the "your" becomes theirs. That's a bit confusing at first read. So I'm getting the tokens.
"God's Beard!"
Member
That whip is so awesome. I'm sad Mikaeus and heartless summoning are rotating out, so much cool black stuff going on in standard.
Thanks, I'll think these over. If Crypt Ghast was three cost and didn't have extort I'd totally run it.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
The main problem I'm seeing with it is that, aside from auras, we really haven't seen any targeting spells in this set so far. Heroic needs to go off consistently to be any good.
Well all the dorky instant pump spells are generally part of the commons dump that comes at the end of spoiler season.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Yeah, we need to see some instants to judge them fully. Expecting heroic to be our aggro if given enough instants to pump things with.
Something like this might be interesting in a "heroic" deck if such a thing were to come out of this block.
That is assuming the overload effect counts as 'targeting'.
EDIT: Of course it doesn't count as targeting, it's getting late.
acheron_xl
Member
I'd love to see some stuff like Whip Silk but that's probably not the direction they want to go. It's a bit on the nose.
crimsonspider89
Banned
Yeah a couple of heroic creature with all effects with some good instant speeds to turn all your creatures into some massive monsters when swinging.
Something like this might be interesting in a "heroic" deck if such a thing were to come out of this block.
That is assuming the overload effect counts as 'targeting'.
EDIT: Of course it doesn't count as targeting, it's getting late.
Imagine if Brave the Elements counted as targeting every creature. I made that mistake at first lol.
Read it carefully.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Love it. It's probably no better than Dispel for Modern, but the design is sweet.
Hm. So it's sort of a Kavu variant for EDH.
Actually getting sick of them putting so many multiplayer cards in considering Commander isn't an "official" format.
It's a standard issue limited uncommon?
Sure. I'd have rather it been "target creature or player" instead of "each opponent" in limited.
Seems like it could be a decent sideboard card, but might also be good in some kind of white/Boros aggro list? Maybe I'm misreading it.
narcosis219
Member
Here's to another addition to white aggro in my cube
That's definitely main deckable in an agro list. A 1 mana 2/1 with upside is quite good.
I remember when Savannah Lions was way too expensive.
Crazy.
Oh, this dodges Abrput Decay. Awesome.
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