It's pretty despicable as I wanted to pick one up for a Commander deck. I can't be the only one who had casual interest. The recent price spike turned me off from it. I really hope it gets a reprint in that upcoming event deck.
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It's pretty despicable as I wanted to pick one up for a Commander deck. I can't be the only one who had casual interest. The recent price spike turned me off from it. I really hope it gets a reprint in that upcoming event deck.
When I started playing Modern I built a Storm Deck and a Jund Deck. Then a few months later both of my decks got hit when BBE and SS were banned. That was a bit disheartening. I shelved the Storm deck. It sucked to lose BBE because that meant replacing my £3 Elves with £25 Huntmasters but I did it anyway. So, then I decided to build Pod. I love the deck and I know it's not dead without Shaman, but Heirarchs are fucking expensive and Shaman was an all star in the mirror. As for my jund deck I just don't quite know. Birds I guess, but man they are a real setback and Jund does so much damage to itself that Shaman life gain was sometimes the only thing to keep me from killing myself. Guess what else I have? A Goryo's reanimator...lol. Won't be long before it gets chopped up too, now that DRS is gone.
Additionally, Zur was banned in 1 v 1 this week. I have a Zur deck which I play quite often. This doesn't affect me too much, as most of my EDH is multiplayer but we do play some 1 v 1 games a few times a week and so he getting benched for those matches. This is a fair ban, because Zur is nasty in 1 v 1.
I'd rather just sell off my modern stuff and get what I need for a good legacy reanimator. Then I can cross my fingers and hope the two Show and Tell I just picked up don't get banned.
The format needs more disruptive decks in general. BB definitely helps along that axes. It's a pipe-bomb of a card. We'll see how it works out.
draw go isnt what magic needs... And faerie deck has too much value in each card. Thats why in mtgo theyre selling bb for 50. Can't believe they unban bb but they ban shit cards like seething song. Storm is freaking inconsistent.
Decks couldn't interact with it G1. It apparently had an absurd G1 win % on MTGO, leading to the ban. G2/3 were always "did you draw your SB stuff? Did they draw echoing truth?"
Execpt I was playing Fae at the time and the matchup was near-unwinnable for them.
If BBE comes back Boom/Bust Zoo becomes a real thing again.
so I managed to draft this in cube:
11 Forest
3 Plains
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Brushland
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Lotus Bloom
1 Joraga Treespeaker
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Fleecemane Lion
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Basalt Monolith
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Natural Order
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Eureka
1 Polukranos, World Eater
1 Stunted Growth
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
1 Batterskull
1 Mold Shambler
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Terastodon
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Progenitus
Just finished round 1, and it was a mirror match.
Seriously.
It was a mono-green-splash-white-for-fatties ramp deck, with tons of 1-mana dorks and similar fatties.
Game 1 I drop a turn 3 natural order for progenitus, gg
Game 2, he end up with two mana dorks out, along with Lotus Cobra and Oracle of Mul Daya. He keeps playing land after land off the top, races out some more ramp, a creature, and destroys my only nonland nonmanadork permanent in play -- Basalt Monolith.
I would've been able to untap, play tooth and nail, and race out Iona and Kitchen Finks, pretty much wiping his board.
Topdeck Eureka.
He has two cards in hand, one is a fucking sorcery.
My entire hand empties itself on the board -- Iona (naming white), Kitchen Finks, and Polukranos -- and his board is wiped.
Then he played Beast Within on my Iona (should've named Green!) and topdecks a goddamn Baneslayer Angel (or not!).
I draw Rofellos, then Forest. Exactly enough mana to entwine Tooth & Nail to win on the spot.
11 Forest
3 Plains
1 Murmuring Bosk
1 Brushland
1 Sunpetal Grove
1 Lotus Bloom
1 Joraga Treespeaker
1 Fyndhorn Elves
1 Fleecemane Lion
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Basalt Monolith
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Natural Order
1 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Eureka
1 Polukranos, World Eater
1 Stunted Growth
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
1 Batterskull
1 Mold Shambler
1 Tooth and Nail
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Terastodon
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
1 Progenitus
Just finished round 1, and it was a mirror match.
Seriously.
It was a mono-green-splash-white-for-fatties ramp deck, with tons of 1-mana dorks and similar fatties.
Game 1 I drop a turn 3 natural order for progenitus, gg
Game 2, he end up with two mana dorks out, along with Lotus Cobra and Oracle of Mul Daya. He keeps playing land after land off the top, races out some more ramp, a creature, and destroys my only nonland nonmanadork permanent in play -- Basalt Monolith.
I would've been able to untap, play tooth and nail, and race out Iona and Kitchen Finks, pretty much wiping his board.
Topdeck Eureka.
He has two cards in hand, one is a fucking sorcery.
My entire hand empties itself on the board -- Iona (naming white), Kitchen Finks, and Polukranos -- and his board is wiped.
Then he played Beast Within on my Iona (should've named Green!) and topdecks a goddamn Baneslayer Angel (or not!).
I draw Rofellos, then Forest. Exactly enough mana to entwine Tooth & Nail to win on the spot.
platypotamus
Member
Went 3-1 in my pre-release. Started off on the wrong foot mulliganing down to 5 (then flooding), and while games 2/3 of that first match were very fun and respectable, I got taken down. Then I just went on a tear and didn't lose another.
I had chosen blue, but didn't end up playing it, playing red/white instead.
My favorite play I made all tourney:
I had stalled at four lands. My opponent puts down that 6/6 kraken guy. I've got my Labyrinth Champion and 2 other small weenies.
I draw a Fall of the Hammer. I already had 1 in hand. So I use 2 Fall of the Hammers on my labyrinth champion (triggering heroic both times, Fall of the Hammer is awesome), kill his kraken (+2 to him), then swing in for 5 dmg.
My second favorite play was also with Fall of the Hammer, but this time on my Akroan Conscriptor. Killed one of his two fliers, and stole the other one for the turn, hitting him for like 14 total with my other guys and ending the game.
Anyway, Fall of the Hammer should be a pretty high pick in draft if you are red, particularly if you've got some good heroic creatures.
I had chosen blue, but didn't end up playing it, playing red/white instead.
My favorite play I made all tourney:
I had stalled at four lands. My opponent puts down that 6/6 kraken guy. I've got my Labyrinth Champion and 2 other small weenies.
I draw a Fall of the Hammer. I already had 1 in hand. So I use 2 Fall of the Hammers on my labyrinth champion (triggering heroic both times, Fall of the Hammer is awesome), kill his kraken (+2 to him), then swing in for 5 dmg.
My second favorite play was also with Fall of the Hammer, but this time on my Akroan Conscriptor. Killed one of his two fliers, and stole the other one for the turn, hitting him for like 14 total with my other guys and ending the game.
Anyway, Fall of the Hammer should be a pretty high pick in draft if you are red, particularly if you've got some good heroic creatures.
Fragamemnon
Member
I won a local tourney with Legacy Jund with it and refused to play it again it was so dull to play. I'd rather lose playing primeval titan and thragtusk than win with bloodbraid into lilana.
edit: I also play noble hierarchs in vintage and have been known to crack lotus for white.
Rough outline of the deck I'm thinking of putting together for modern. Figured I'd see if I could get some feedback here before posting it on reddit and getting downvoted to oblivion like usual.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/maverick-03-02-14-1/
KOTR will be better now that DRS is gone and Abrupt Decay will be less likely to show up if people start dumping Jund. Voice could be a house depending on the performance of Faeries at the PT.
Interested to hear any and all feedback.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/maverick-03-02-14-1/
KOTR will be better now that DRS is gone and Abrupt Decay will be less likely to show up if people start dumping Jund. Voice could be a house depending on the performance of Faeries at the PT.
Interested to hear any and all feedback.
divisionbyzorro
Member
I had a similar thought on Voice, and I'm about ready to just snap them up before they skyrocket. Except I'm thinking about jumping ship and moving to Pod - it's something I've been thinking about doing for a while, and I think Twin is about to get much, much worse.
Just not sure if I want to do Melira or Kiki-Pod. I think I like Melira Pod better, but I'm not sure.
Just not sure if I want to do Melira or Kiki-Pod. I think I like Melira Pod better, but I'm not sure.
blindrocket
Member
I am building Melira Pod, myself. I've been informed that it is the better of the two.
You still may want to pick up Voice of Resurgence though because Melira Pod can run 2-3 copies of Voice.
I have a play set of Voice because I run Selesnya in Standard, so I already had my copies.
You may also want to get your Archangel of Thune because her price has started to go back up due to seeing tournament play.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Oh, I definitely still want Voices. I just meant that I wanted them for Pod, not for Hatebears.
The card that's getting to be way too overpriced right now is Noble Hierarch, now that he's once again the best mana dork in Modern.
Holy bejesus.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Yeah, I really don't know what to do. I've managed to end up with a playset of all of the really expensive Faeries stuff as Twin decks have been pushing to be less and less combo-oriented. I kinda want to offload it for profit and move into Pod, but some pieces (like Hierarch specifically) seem overinflated and likely to see some sort of reprint. If there's one thing I've learned about Magic over the past year it's that I hate playing tempo decks, and this Fae stuff is just rotting in my collection.
Hierarchy is probably the only thing in the Pod deck likely to lose any significant value, while the other stuff might just keep climbing. It might be a good move, or it might not be. Decisions, decisions.
Hierarchy is probably the only thing in the Pod deck likely to lose any significant value, while the other stuff might just keep climbing. It might be a good move, or it might not be. Decisions, decisions.
Of course, I could just sell it all and move into Legacy. I'm hoping Vintage Masters pushes more Legacy staples into the MTGO market, I'm a combo player at heart, and legacy is where all the sweet combo decks are...
blindrocket
Member
Melira Pod streaming, RIGHT NOW
http://www.twitch.tv/legitmtg
With Mr. Scotty Mac and Alexander Hayne
http://www.twitch.tv/legitmtg
With Mr. Scotty Mac and Alexander Hayne
lawlohwhat
Banned
Probably should sell the box. Theros ev has tanked since the new year.
You can say that again. Holy shit is that card expensive at the moment. It's gotta be in MM2... right?
blindrocket
Member
Hopefully.
Sell the box, Theros value is awful.
divisionbyzorro
Member
For some reason, they decided Exalted was supposed to be black and white.
There's a chance they put it in Vintage Masters this summer, but it won't take care of the problem in paper.
blindrocket
Member
Noble Hierarch and Fulminator Mage both need some reprintings.
Damnation too, but not in this Standard Meta of course.
Okay, I watched a few games of Melira Pod in the stream, and I realize that it has more of a learning curve. You need to know your outs to many situations and what cards to combo with and fetch with Pod, etc.
It was very good at winning, but it wasn't very fun to watch, to be honest. I wonder if I would have more fun actually playing it.
Damnation too, but not in this Standard Meta of course.
Okay, I watched a few games of Melira Pod in the stream, and I realize that it has more of a learning curve. You need to know your outs to many situations and what cards to combo with and fetch with Pod, etc.
It was very good at winning, but it wasn't very fun to watch, to be honest. I wonder if I would have more fun actually playing it.
crimsonspider89
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Pod as a whole is much more fun than to watch. Watching appears to be very noninteractive but playing it is much more interactive.
As a double secret ultra Bigfoot mythic rare.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Ugh. Just lost in the finals of a MTGO cube due to a really annoying misplay on my part (didn't re-equip Jitte prior to passing the turn, thus missing out on two counters and losing to a Corrupt to the face). At least the draft paid for itself, but those stupid mistakes keep coming back to haunt me. I find myself losing mental focus during 3/4 round tournaments; I have a serious respect for players who can keep sharp during a 16-round tournament.
My deck was sweet though. I've gone 2-1 in three Swiss straight cubes, and each deck was its own level of sweetness. Swiss is absolutely the way to go on the MTGO cube; with enough of the weird crap that can happen, I like that making 2-1 means that you drafted for free. It's a little unfortunate that a 1-3 paired with a 3-0 doesn't quite cover two drafts, but overall it's still pretty decent value.
My deck was sweet though. I've gone 2-1 in three Swiss straight cubes, and each deck was its own level of sweetness. Swiss is absolutely the way to go on the MTGO cube; with enough of the weird crap that can happen, I like that making 2-1 means that you drafted for free. It's a little unfortunate that a 1-3 paired with a 3-0 doesn't quite cover two drafts, but overall it's still pretty decent value.
acheron_xl
Member
I adore Swiss Cube. Had a great run when they had the power in there. I think I had something like 4 or 5 decks in a row build around Armageddon and/or Tax/Rack. Sometimes though, you just run into someone who pulls off their crazy combo and you're powerless to stop them.
Depends what you wanted to do. Do you want to play Standard/Modern at a competitive level? EDH? Casual?
I kept (and recently found) two of my old decks and that got me yearning for the game. I think I'm more interested in semi-competitive type 2 play. I don't think they do type 1 competive but that's my "casual" decks.
What I'd suggest is watching some of the starcitygames T2 tournament this Saturday. It'll be the first time the newest cards are used as a new set comes out on Friday. You'll at least get to see 3-4 different decks to get an idea of what you may want to play.
http://www.twitch.tv/scglive = stream link
Type 2 is Standard. It's the most popular constructed format. Modern (which allows all sets after 8th edition) is the second most popular format, and has replaced Extended.
Remember that for Standard, cards rotate out every 2 years. If you want to spend 500 dollars and be ready to play at a competitive level, you could build just about any deck you want to right now. http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_...014+StarCity+Open+Standard+-+Baltimore+-+1/25
Remember that buying packs, unless you plan to draft them, is a poor use of money
keeblerdrow
Member
Here's the thing- lets say you want a competitive deck that has black in it. That means you are going to need 4 Thoughtsiezes. Thoughtsieze is a 15 dollar card. If you wanted to buy 4 copies, its going to cost you 60 dollars. For that same price, you could enter 4 FNM drafts. You are going to get a chance to crack 12 boosters across those events, plus any that you win. There are 53 rare cards in Theros.
Yes, by drafting, you will get more cards, but it isn't likely you will get ones you actually want for your deck. If you enjoy limited, I would play limited. If your goal is to take 500 and make a competitive deck, then you are going to be buying singles to achieve that goal.
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