Legacy effectively dies if the opens go away. Meanwhile, if not reprinted, I could see Tarn and Misty break 100 each if Modern opens become a weekly occurrence.
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Legacy effectively dies if the opens go away. Meanwhile, if not reprinted, I could see Tarn and Misty break 100 each if Modern opens become a weekly occurrence.
I think people underestimate just how much of the liquid card stock in the market is held by stores.
You do both.
Its a thing that as more and more time passes, Legacy and Modern get more and more expensive. And if your going to invest in one, aren't you going to invest in the one that is a PTQ and PT format?
phazedplasma
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Won my game day with GW Aggro and then won a Modern weekly with Hatebears right after.Thinking of taking a break from standard now though since the deck has barely changed over the last 4+ months and the format really doesn't feel very exciting except for a couple new decks seeing play (UW Ephara mostly). Glad that Modern is picking up though so I can play in regular eternal tournaments without traveling.
Got a question for you guys who pay attention to your sleeves: what do you think is the best sleeves for both cleanliness and protection? I've noticed that Dragonshields get dirty very quickly even if they're only played with spotless hands on a spotless, freshly cleaned playmat.
Just traded for my 3rd one today. I'm kind of accepting that the last one will have to come at a higher price but it still makes me feel uneasy trading for such an expensive card that ha to be reprinted again.
Got the list for that GW aggro deck?
divisionbyzorro
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Decided to try my luck at a 64-man draft on MTGO. Drafted a sick minotaurs deck that destroyed every game that it didn't get manascrewed in.
It got manascrewed in 2/3 games in round three
It extra sucks to lose to mana screw with extra on the line like that, but oh well - that's the game I suppose. The prize difference between going 3-0 and 2-1 is tragically massive in a 64-man; 3-0 gets you guaranteed 9 packs, 3 QPs, and entry into another draft. 2-1 just gets you 4 packs. The cutoff between any of the other tiers isn't even close to that bad.
It got manascrewed in 2/3 games in round three
It extra sucks to lose to mana screw with extra on the line like that, but oh well - that's the game I suppose. The prize difference between going 3-0 and 2-1 is tragically massive in a 64-man; 3-0 gets you guaranteed 9 packs, 3 QPs, and entry into another draft. 2-1 just gets you 4 packs. The cutoff between any of the other tiers isn't even close to that bad.
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah, you're right. I just want to make WUBR control and need more reasons to splash red lol Rakdos' Return, boros charm and dreadbore aren't enough. Well, I do get turn // burn and wear // tear in the sb.
And...
demolish?
GamerKingFaiz
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Anyone try battling the horde at Game Day this past weekend?
I fought it with a Mono-Black Devotion deck and it didn't seem very challenging, or I got really easy draws off the top of the deck from the Horde.
I fought it with a Mono-Black Devotion deck and it didn't seem very challenging, or I got really easy draws off the top of the deck from the Horde.
Fragamemnon
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Yep, and you make Invitationals a triathalon of constructed formats.
Honetly I don't think Legacy cards would actually take too huge of a hit even if SCG curbed back their Legacy events to certain locales (NE USA, SoCal ) where it's very popular and replaced those events with Modern tournaments. Local Legacy is still alive and well in a lot of places, is loved by its player base despite WOTC's terrible management of the format, and a lot of the staple cards are hotly desired for Commander or Modern.
"God's Beard!"
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Mind grind for 1
Wasteland and force of will are 100 cards due to SCG. If Legacy opens go away, those prices get halved at minimum
Legacy keeps breaking the attendance records. There is no reason for SCG or anyone else to stop doing Legacy events.
Hey can I ask about rules in here? A mate and I have been getting into MtG lately and we had a couple of questions from todays games.
If he has a creature which adds 1 mana when he uses its tap special ability, and I zap that creature with an instant like volt charge, then he doesn't get that mana does he? Coz it resolves backwards yeah?
Also, if I have a creature that gets a +1/+1 counter when it attacks, is that applied the very first time it attacks?
We've been playing Heros vs Monsters dual decks which is all we had but we just ordered 4 sets of Theros complete common/uncommon and 4 of Born of the Gods and a few random rares and I can't wait to start putting our own decks together.
If he has a creature which adds 1 mana when he uses its tap special ability, and I zap that creature with an instant like volt charge, then he doesn't get that mana does he? Coz it resolves backwards yeah?
Also, if I have a creature that gets a +1/+1 counter when it attacks, is that applied the very first time it attacks?
We've been playing Heros vs Monsters dual decks which is all we had but we just ordered 4 sets of Theros complete common/uncommon and 4 of Born of the Gods and a few random rares and I can't wait to start putting our own decks together.
Sure thing.
Creatures
4x Experiment One
3x Soldier of the Pantheon
4x Voice of Resurgence
3x Fleecemane Lion
3x Loxodon Smiter
3x Boon Satyr
1x Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Instants/Sorceries
4x Selesnya Charm
4x Call of the Conclave
1x Rootborn Defenses
4x Advent of the Wurm
Planeswalkers
2x Ajani, Caller of the Pride
Lands
4x Temple Garden
3x Temple of Plenty
10x Forest
7x Plains
Sideboard
2x Banisher Priest
2x Rootborn Defenses
2x Unflinching Courage
1x Mistcutter Hydra
1x Skylasher
1x Revoke Existence
1x Glare of Heresy
2x Last Breath
1x Bow of Nylea
2x Pithing Needle
I know a lot of people have gone with Banisher Priest mainboard over Smiters but I just haven't been too impressed by them when I tried. They're insane against some decks but a huge liability against decks packing good removal.
Yes, he will get the mana. Killing a creature does not stop an activated ability from resolving. If you wanted to prevent the mana you would need to use a card like Trickbind, Stifle or Voidslime (none of which are standard legal) to counter the activated ability.
Yes, the counter is applied at the time that you declare it an attacker.
divisionbyzorro
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Actually, to be clear, there is no way to stop a mana ability from resolving. Even Trickbind wouldn't stop the creature from adding mana. Mana abilities are special - they don't use the stack and can't be interrupted.
This is true. My apologies, for some reason I had Deathrite Shaman in mind when I read his question.
Yeah it's been a pretty rough couple of months for them.
Fragamemnon
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How many people actually play at Opens so often that they want to own a Legacy deck (or multiple Legacy decks) vs. the larger number of people that play in small LGS events that are sanctioned Legacy events?
The number of people who are regular in the latter column dwarfs the number of people who play in Opens. Europe has no Open Series, the closest thing is Bazaar of Moxen, and yet they have tons of the same kind of 20-40 man local Legacy events that the US does. I'm not going to discount the popularity boost that the Open Series has provided the format, but honestly most of the price spikes over the last five to six years are completely coincident with the swelling of the playerbase, not due to people buying cards to play in Open Series events.
It's a popular format and people like to play it. Especially older, more established players with fondness for old cards and plenty of disposable income. It manages to thrive even through WOTC's neglect.
Why would anyone drop thousands of dollars into a format just to play in small 20-40 player tournaments? The reason for people having all the older cards is that Extended (circa late 90s and early 2000s) was a big deal, and you needed to own FoW and Dual lands for it
Keru_Shiri
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So, I'm creating a Magic Online account, and I'm reading the Prize Eligibility section. Apparently, I live in one of the states not eligible for prizes in fee-based tournaments. Is it worth it for me to create an account seeing as how I was hoping to use this to play competitively?
Just lie, like I assume everyone else on the planet does. It will only be an issue if you with the MOCS or a PTQ
Fragamemnon
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Do you have a local Legacy community in your area? I do, and I've seen many players , many of them pretty young and not necessarily bursting with cash, build out multiple legacy decks with dual lands/force/LEDs, etc over the span of a few years using trade hustle for their rotating Standard cards and tournament winnings (from those local events).
They do it because they like the format and want to play. Some of them might go to one Open Series event a year, but their initial commitment was to play with the rest of us in the Legacy events.
This isn't an isolated phenomenon either. Same for Vintage-the mass exodus of power from the US to Europe during the 2000s was due to the same sort of regular local Vintage events they have there (and where proxies are not permitted).
Scalding Tarn and misty now BUYLISTING for 70 on SCG
After this GP (which is going to be gigantic, already largest constructed ever on pre-reg alone), I could see those 2 being more than any 3rd ed dual land not named Underground Sea
Edit: also paying 40 for Marsh Flats, which can be found for less than that on Tcgplayer
After this GP (which is going to be gigantic, already largest constructed ever on pre-reg alone), I could see those 2 being more than any 3rd ed dual land not named Underground Sea
Edit: also paying 40 for Marsh Flats, which can be found for less than that on Tcgplayer
Nope. You're not casting an Emrakul.
I thought that would be how it would work. Thanks.
GamerKingFaiz
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May FNM promo is Tormented Hero!
I wonder if the other vendors are going to follow this.
blindrocket
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Does that seem kind of ballsy considering that reprints are highly speculated?
OR do they just assume they can sell of their stock of them before that is announced?
I know with Modern season approaching card prices are expected to get even nuttier.
OR do they just assume they can sell of their stock of them before that is announced?
I know with Modern season approaching card prices are expected to get even nuttier.
They'll probably flip a lot of them on the day.
Well, people are playing tons of Modern, and if the fetches are getting reprinted, it's not till M15 (and I'm thinking it's the fall large set so the shocks aren't legal at the same time). They are SOLD OUT of Tarn at 100- why not price it higher?
Fragamemnon
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A lot of these big buy list moves are so SCG can buy up and refill stock at the event. You want to be the guy on the booths known for getting through a collection quickly and paying well for it, and buy list bumps are a way of doing that.
The size of the GP this weekend is staggering. At this point I think people on the fence about going are thinking about going just to be part of the spectacle.
The size of the GP this weekend is staggering. At this point I think people on the fence about going are thinking about going just to be part of the spectacle.
Prepare to be OBLITERATED.
If it was easy to get to via DC metro I would probably have gone. But the metro doesn't go that far south.
I would probably play Storm if I could borrow 2 Tarns, or Affinity if I couldn't.
Where do you live? (I live in Centreville and we're driving past the Metro on the way out.)
edit: Oh, duh -RCizzle- do you know anyone with extra room for the weekend? I have a ride but currently no place to crash.
In jersey just outside of Philly- I could justify going to visit my brother at University of Maryland and taking the metro to the tournament if it were possible, but it's just too much of a hassle
Oh, yeah, that'd be a planes, trains and auto mess.
Not quite, but not worth it for the 0-2 drop!
There is a GP in Philly soon, I'm probably going to go to that mainly to cash out most of my collection
Where do you live? (I live in Centreville and we're driving past the Metro on the way out.)
edit: Oh, duh -RCizzle- do you know anyone with extra room for the weekend? I have a ride but currently no place to crash.
Wish I could man but we're at like 7 in our room already.
Those are the only people I know for sure are going too.I think I'll be there too. Not a huge fan of limited GPs due to extreme randomness but that's the last one before the legacy GP in November that I'd be able to go to.
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