Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Stop calling them Battlelands then...
Anyways Pat Cox posted a draft where he got 5 Nettle Drones
Anyways Pat Cox posted a draft where he got 5 Nettle Drones
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Magic: the Gathering - Battle for Zendikar |OT| Lands matter (but nothing else does)
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Keru_Shiri
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There's no feeling quite like finding an interesting rogue list, making it on X-mage, then losing with it in the mirror. 
Always keep a set. Actually, I just try to trade for any fetches whenever possible. They will always be used while legal.
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
I would recommend any player picking up sets of Fetches and Shocks if they want to play any non-standard format.
Giant Panda
Member
Do you think a 2 color deck in modern could function with just fetches, tangos, and basics? Skipping shocks would have the added benefit of being aggro resistant.
If you play Blood Moon, yes. Blue Moon only plays two Steam Vents.
Giant Panda
Member
I'm just planning to make budget G/W aggro made with stuff I own from standard and cheap good additions like Loxodon Smiter and Qasali Pridemage.
EDIT: Speaking of which, for one drops, is Experiment One, Dryad militant, or Warden of the First Tree best? I'm thinking I'll probably have some of each but I only have 8-10 slots so they can't all be 4-ofs.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Very few modern decks plays a playset of shocklands and in Legacy you just play ABUDuals.
It's just not necessary and stuff like Choke and Blood Moon get gross if you run too many. I play 2 Steam Vents in Twin right now.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think I can assemble Jund by July of 2019 at this rate of getting one expensive card every other month. Good for MM2015 for existing though so I don't have to be concerned by fake Tarmogoyfs.
I'm only one short of them myself. I should probably get around to picking that 4th one up.
Horatorobor
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Just got my asskicked twice in a row to Jeskai black with my ultrabudget BR Dragons.
I seriously need to upgrade to Thundebreak Regents and some kolaghan's command.
I seriously need to upgrade to Thundebreak Regents and some kolaghan's command.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
as would timestop and containment priest
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Just needs a sac outlet for even more value
Containment Priest wouldn't do anything.
Time Stop would either just be a counter spell or keep him form getting tokens, but not lands.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yeah it'd keep him from getting tokens, just like hallowed moonlight. Missed the nontoken on containment priest.
charlequin
Banned
So Rosewater did a podcast this week about how Magic has changed in the last twenty years. I was trying to think of what single card you could show to someone twenty years ago to blow their minds most effectively, but I think Kozilek 2 might just be it. 😂
Also:
I guess Brady Dommermuth was the dwarf hater.
Also:
Blogatog said:
I guess Brady Dommermuth was the dwarf hater.
I'd go with Emrakul or one of the more unique Planeswalkers like Jace TMS or Gideon Jura
Emrakul would be my suggestion. The card is very simple on one level (every ability is explained on the card), but so totally and utterly insane power wise compared to the start of the game. I think we've even had people in this thread come back to the game and be surprised by that card.
Planeswalkers are neat, but I think they are too complicated to grasp at first sight and have a ton of rules behind them. Emrakul is the best, instant WTF card you can possibly think of.
Planeswalkers are neat, but I think they are too complicated to grasp at first sight and have a ton of rules behind them. Emrakul is the best, instant WTF card you can possibly think of.
Weird I was sure it had reminder text on it. Ah well, even without that it's still a gob smacking card - plus the art and border frame stuff also makes it stand out.
A card like Lightning Strike could be interesting, tooto showcase the challenge of power creep, and how the game had to change to stay healthy over 20+ years of new cards.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Or something like Grave Titan- a well-costed monster Black creature with zero drawbacks.
SigmasonicX
Member
It is funny to think that the reason why black in particular got a lot of bad creatures at high mana costs for a while was because they were costing creatures taking Dark Ritual into consideration.
"God's Beard!"
Member
My prediction for the end of the current story arc after Jace comes back from Innistrad:
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The rule loophole that lets you attach auras to shroud/hexproof creatures is kinda dumb yet makes Zur such a great commander.
Oh you thought your commander safe well here's a pacifism. Have fun trying to kill your indestructible commander.
I was playing my Aurelia Angels deck after finally getting the cards from the RW commander deck. Now I just need the really expensive angels. I had Restoration Angel in it until I noticed it only cares about non angels, well all my creatures are angels.
Oh you thought your commander safe well here's a pacifism. Have fun trying to kill your indestructible commander.
I was playing my Aurelia Angels deck after finally getting the cards from the RW commander deck. Now I just need the really expensive angels. I had Restoration Angel in it until I noticed it only cares about non angels, well all my creatures are angels.
SigmasonicX
Member
The rule where auras put onto the battlefield can be attached without targeting really doesn't feel right, and it seems like something that should have been removed back in the Magic 2010 rule changes.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Making sure I don't leave ideas on the table, I'm trying to build towards a new version of Jeskai Black before GP Oakland hits. I'm really focusing in on the holding up 4-mana play pattern and getting as much value out of that goal as possible.
4C Ojutai's Command Control
Harbinger slots right into the play pattern. Holding up 4 mana for a bounce spell + an ambush is pretty close to far//away in a lot of matchups, and it helps with some creatures that Fathom Feeder can't like Wingmate Roc tokens. Double blue is really hard early on, but with 20 blue sources hitting it on turn 4 is pretty easy. Turn 4 is also generally the earliest you play Dig Through Time.
4C Ojutai's Command Control
Harbinger slots right into the play pattern. Holding up 4 mana for a bounce spell + an ambush is pretty close to far//away in a lot of matchups, and it helps with some creatures that Fathom Feeder can't like Wingmate Roc tokens. Double blue is really hard early on, but with 20 blue sources hitting it on turn 4 is pretty easy. Turn 4 is also generally the earliest you play Dig Through Time.
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Not sure if you've seen it and it might not be super reliable / high impact enough, but maybe Planar Void would be helpful?
http://magiccards.info/query?q=Planar+void&v=card&s=cname
charlequin
Banned
Yeah, my thinking behind Kozilek 2 was basically that for a 1995 player, you get all the regular stuff present on a lot of cards -- the new frame design, the color-coded expansion symbol, the unique type line, etc. -- and then all this more specific stuff -- the see-through colorless frame, the new mana symbols, the creature type "Eldrazi," being bigger than any creature printed at the time, repeatable spell countering... It's just a wall of bizarre for someone who's still being impressed by things like Jester's Cap.
I do think it does speak to the design of the Eldrazi titans, at least, that this is where all of our minds go on this question, heh.
Yeah, the rules for planeswalkers don't follow naturally from the visual design, so I think it'd be more of a head scratcher than a real WTF.
I think Lightning Strike would be the card I would send back in time if I wanted someone to feel reassured that Magic was pretty much the same game twenty years later, lol.
Joe Molotov
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I jumped from Tempest to M15, and I opened a Liliana Vess in my prerelease sealed pool. I could tell basically what it did, but I had no idea when I could activate it's abilities, how often I could activate them, or that planeswalkers could be attacked.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
My Esper Tapout control deck has performed pretty well in all of the matches in which I wasn't drunk before the match started.
I'm just saying, FNM went like this
0-2
0-2
2-1
2-0
1-1-0 (I had the win on board he stalled out to turn 5 to get the draw)
I'm just saying, FNM went like this
0-2
0-2
2-1
2-0
1-1-0 (I had the win on board he stalled out to turn 5 to get the draw)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I'll never understand drunk magic, and I tried it before.
How lucky is that keating guy?
How lucky is that keating guy?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Drunk Magic isn't the goal, getting drunk is the goal and then after getting drunk playing Magic becomes goal A.
Gherid__lacksGPS
Banned
Walgreens has 40% of boosters and intros for the week. Not as good as the b1g1 from previous years, still cheaper than a box, though. Kinda hit or miss depending on stock, but they're really good with rain checks. Needs a Walgreen account / card, its free and no spam. Picked up 10 packs of Zen for 25, rain check at three other stores.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Buying or cashing prizes as BFZ is a huge mistake imo. Just get KTK. There's nothing of interest to open in BFZ other than lottery lands or Gideon (who's $30 and falling as is).
blindrocket
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I get a 15% discount on top of that for being an employee of the local school district.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Gherid__lacksGPS
Banned
Man, I'm in the wrong profession......
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