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Magic: the Gathering - Battle for Zendikar |OT| Lands matter (but nothing else does)
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per Aaron Forsythe's twitter
Potentially a 6/6 vigilance trample for 4, I like it.
keeblerdrow
Member
It's a good pairing with 4xSiege Rhino. Spend the same colors as the other behemoth and you get a 5/5 vigitrample for your troubles. This is probably the first creature card spoiled that I actually want to cast.
SigmasonicX
Member
... Weren't we just complaining about how terrible all the converge cards are?
It's a terribly designed mechanic for this block that shouldn't be in the set.
But if people think these rare Converge cards are bad, they crazy. Well ok, not the enchanment.
Interesting point you bring up but even in green decks that aren't running red or blue , like let's say abzan , you can flip rattleclaw and still use that ability to help with casting converge .
^^^ That green one though. Holy shit ^^^
Right? It feels almost a little too perfect haha
Right? It feels almost a little too perfect haha
Also Shaman of forgotten ways conveniently says 2 mana of any color lol. I don't think they thought that far ahead but it is quite convenient.
Well, they didn't screw around on these, wow.
Some of these seem a lot better than the others , the blue and black one seem real strong
SigmasonicX
Member
I'd say they wouldn't do that when people have been asking for an ally legend to build a 5-color ally Commander deck, and a converge guy wouldn't have all five color identities, but who knows with this set.
The lands look good, though I've always had a hard time figuring out how powerful lands with abilities other than mana production are.
Well, they didn't screw around on these, wow.
This is a cycle I can get behind. They're all pretty good but damn the blue and green ones are pretty ridiculous.
Etrian Oddity
Member
Temur just keeps getting better and better 
shrapnelmagnet
Member
Yeah, I like these spell lands, a lot.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Actually, it would be busted if they went to the yard. Instant 4-of in standard for a lot of decks.
So far the lands are miles better than any of the other cards in the set outside the walkers.
charlequin
Banned
The spelllands are one of my favorite things from the original Zendikar so I'm psyched at these ones. Very nice choices of effects.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The green one is great in limited.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Man why am I crazy for thinking that blue enchantment has a place somewhere?
SigmasonicX
Member
It's very strong in Limited if five-color is reasonably viable, which is why it's at rare in the first place, even if it doesn't look too impressive.
I suspect that it's a cycle. I'm guessing the red one will be like:
Remove a crystal counter: Deal 1 damage to target creature.
WUBRG: Deal 3 damage to target player.
I think if it were a tight cycle we would have already seen 1 or 2 others by now; there's only 10 rares left to spoil by my count.
I think it's just a looser cycle of rare converge cards. Since blue and green are the primary converge colors, I think we'll see 1 more green converge rare and 1 white converge rare. That would put the numbers at 1 white, 2 blue, 1 black, 1 red, 2 green, 1 GU-Multicolor.
[EDIT] Speculation, because I'm bored and don't have work in the morning:
White Converge Rare 2W
Instant
Put X 1/1 white Soldier Ally tokens onto the battlefield, where X is number of colors, etc.
Green Converge Rare 4G
Sorcery
Creatures you control get +X/+X and gain trample until end of turn, where X, etc.
Green Converge Uncommon 2G
Sorcery
Target creatures you control gets +X/+X and fights target creature you don't control where, etc.
"God's Beard!"
Member
At a certain point you look at your binder and go, "Well, I'm sitting on 1500 bucks worth of staples, what's more fun, trading towards... something or a nicer computer?"
This game is too fucking expensive. It's a tabletop game with its own stock market.
This game is too fucking expensive. It's a tabletop game with its own stock market.
Or 50 Italian meals.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";178842491]At a certain point you look at your binder and go, "Well, I'm sitting on 1500 bucks worth of staples, what's more fun, trading towards... something or a nicer computer?"
This game is too fucking expensive. It's a tabletop game with its own stock market.
[/QUOTE]
At least on the stock market, when you buy Disney, you know you are getting Disney and not some hole in the wall with the word Disney on its sign board.
This game is too fucking expensive. It's a tabletop game with its own stock market.
Or 50 Italian meals.
At least on the stock market, when you buy Disney, you know you are getting Disney and not some hole in the wall with the word Disney on its sign board.
LaserBuddha
Member
I don't know what is known about the lore at this point, but should I hold out hope for a new Nahiri in the second set of this block? She's my planeswalker waifu.
On one hand, Nahiri last showed up in a set that plucked characters from throughout time and space, and on the other, I think the last Uncharted Realms she showed up in implied she was basically immortal even as a neowalker.
Assuming the block Planeswalker population can handle her, odds are okay-to-goodish.
Also good waifu choice
LaserBuddha
Member
I want to say it's implied that Sorin turned her into a vampire so she could continue watching over the Hedrons or whatever. Maybe she lost her spark I think, but I'm pretty sure Ob Nixilis did too and he's back.
acheron_xl
Member
At this point, I almost expect something like:
Green Converge Rare
2G
Sorcery (R)
Converge - Put X +1/+1 counters on target creature where X is yadda yadda etc...
I would've said +x/+x until EOT, but that's too terrible for me to even joke about.
Green Converge Rare
2G
Sorcery (R)
Converge - Put X +1/+1 counters on target creature where X is yadda yadda etc...
I would've said +x/+x until EOT, but that's too terrible for me to even joke about.
Shuggananas
Banned
Lol they even come back if it's destroyed, such trash
Should have been 2WW with converge
Second is eh, aight i spose
Should have been 2WW with converge
Second is eh, aight i spose
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Quarantine Field is neat. The counter interactivity isn't something relevant in standard but see why its mythic with its interactivity with stuff like the Doubling Season variant and what not.
I cannot wait to 0-1 drafts by picking Molten Nursery way too high.
I love that they trigger off themselves. Hell, I love nearly everything about that card. It's not Burning Vengeance or Lightning Rift, but it sure looks fun.
Since I'm late to this thread:
No idea why people on reddit are shitting all over Painful Truths. The color requirement is unfortunate, but it seems wrong to immediately dismiss a card that draws 3 for 3 mana. I'd be shocked if it didn't see standard play, and I'm going to try it out as a 2-of in modern Grixis Control.
That's a good point, especially with the new prize distributions keeping pack prices high. I have no idea what's going to happen.
Maybe people just won't redeem this set at all, and whichever mythics establish themselves as Standard staples will hit 30-40 tix each? It'll be interesting to see.
I love that they trigger off themselves. Hell, I love nearly everything about that card. It's not Burning Vengeance or Lightning Rift, but it sure looks fun.
Since I'm late to this thread:
No idea why people on reddit are shitting all over Painful Truths. The color requirement is unfortunate, but it seems wrong to immediately dismiss a card that draws 3 for 3 mana. I'd be shocked if it didn't see standard play, and I'm going to try it out as a 2-of in modern Grixis Control.
That's a good point, especially with the new prize distributions keeping pack prices high. I have no idea what's going to happen.
Maybe people just won't redeem this set at all, and whichever mythics establish themselves as Standard staples will hit 30-40 tix each? It'll be interesting to see.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's just that Read the bones is better in most cases and decks. It digs deeper and is monocolored.
Edit: Oh shit, I completely missed double x, I don't like it anymore lol. It's more expensive than oblivion ring for 1 target and gets crazy expensive really quick for more targets.
In a format with a card like Dromoka's Command and just when Nykthos is rotating out, I just don't think it's so powerful. It does exile noncreatures which is an upside to stasis snare.
Why couldn't it have been a 2/2 eldrazi?
Too magical Christmasland to hope for Eldrazi ramp deck that gets quarantines the enemy board, then processes all the quarantined permanents into their graveyard so it doesn't even matter if they destroy it or not?
Ironic that Eldrazi have the more favorable interactions with a card meant to combat them, flavor wise.
I don't understand this argument at all; 'Scry 2' is not strictly better than 'draw a card'. If you're a control/midrange deck that wants to hit land drops, it's just straight-up worse in most situations.
Read the Bones is a very strong card and fits into more decks, but Painful Truths is a much better choice in the lists that can support it.
Shuggananas
Banned
I'd much rather have scry 2, draw 2, lose 2 than draw 3 (at best) lose 3 in pretty much any case tbh
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