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Magic: The Gathering - Duels of the Planeswalkers |OT| Expansion 3 Out Now!

Justin

Member
Grecco said:
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I think i destroyed her with the Red deck but i cant remember. With the Red deck use your damage spells on creatures, forget about her flyer birds, and be agresive. Try to start always with Mountain/Raging Goblin on first turn.


With the Green deck its all about putting lands in play. enough to get the 5/4 6/4 creatures and once you have multiples in play hope for an overrun.

Dont worry about doing direct damage or her own life healing spells

Thanks, I won the next round! The computer was still a complete asshole and played 2 of those cards that make it so she dosent take damage that round when I was about to win.
 
AstroLad said:
That doesn't sound right. What ability were you trying to play?

Royal Assassin (tap destroy target tapped creature), but would not let me highlight him, only the other creature with no such description.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Yeah, I'm hardly a Magic rules expert, but based on those facts that seems wrong to me. Abilities aren't spells.
 
Argh this challenge 8 is driving me nuts

Is there a way in multi color mana decks to pick which mana cards to tap? The damn game keeps screwing me out of my reds and burning them for the greys of other summons

I could finish it if it'd let me have control of the land cards

Very frustrating
 
AstroLad said:
Yeah, I'm hardly a Magic rules expert, but based on those facts that seems wrong to me. Abilities aren't spells.

I know, I agree completely and I am confused. Try it sometime if you get the opportunity, maybe I did something wrong. I was snickering the whole time thinking (heh, abilities are not spells).


And what table decks? I see themes only.


Pretty sure this game needs to be called:
Magic: Duels of the GameQuitters.
 
Kureishima said:
Kind of irritated..

Was playing against a green deck with this black deck.

Sure, the troll with regen has protection from black spells/abilities, but the Karlupsan card which has protection from "black and blue spells" mentions nothing about abilities, yet can't be the target of black abilities? Kind of pisses me off.. Lost because of that.
From Wizards MTG rules compendium:

502.7. Protection

502.7a Protection is a static ability, written "Protection from [quality]." This quality is usually a color (as in "protection from black") but can be any characteristic value. If the quality is a card type, subtype, or supertype, the protection applies to sources that are permanents with that card type, subtype, or supertype and to any sources not in play that are of that card type, subtype, or supertype. This is an exception to rule 200.9.

502.7b A permanent or player with protection can't be targeted by spells with the stated quality and can't be targeted by abilities from a source with the stated quality.

213. Spells

213.1. Every nonland card is a spell while it's being played (see rule 409, "Playing Spells and Activated Abilities") and while it's on the stack. Once it's played, a card remains a spell until it resolves, is countered, or otherwise leaves the stack. For more information, see rule 401, "Spells on the Stack."
http://www.wizards.com/magic/comprules/MagicCompRules090501.txt

I don't know the specific cards you're referring to, but if the protection reads as you have stated, then I would think your thinking is correct, and the game did not treat the "protection from black spells" correctly. Royal Assassin is only a "black spell" while it is on the stack, awaiting to be resolved. Once it is in play, it is no longer a spell, and does not qualify for the quality of "black spell". It seems the game treated the protection as if it had simply read "protection from black and blue".
 

elostyle

Never forget! I'm Dumb!
Does anyone know if the number of lands in the decks varies with the number of additional cards you have selected?
 

botkiller

Member
Kureishima said:
Kind of irritated..

Was playing against a green deck with this black deck.

Sure, the troll with regen has protection from black spells/abilities, but the Karlupsan card which has protection from "black and blue spells" mentions nothing about abilities, yet can't be the target of black abilities? Kind of pisses me off.. Lost because of that.

What is the troll card that you're talking about? I don't know of any card that would say, "protection from _____ spells and abilities."

A card with protection cannot be targeted, dealt damage, blocked or enchanted by a card with that property. There's no reason for them to specify "spells and abilities", saying "protection from black" would get virtually the same effect. (Unless they wanted you to be blockable by black creatures, I guess.)

But again, I don't know what card you're talking about, so I could be completely wrong.
 
AstroLad said:
Maybe the CPU hadn't actually tapped Karplusan and had just bumped the table so that it looked tapped.

Heh.

Once again, played some online games last night. Lost 2, but kept playing with the same guy. The third match I decimated him after a long while and he quit right as I was dealing the last 2 life. So crazy. I sent him a msg "why/etc" and he said he had to "get ready for work". But come on, staying in 2 more seconds.. loaded excuse.

Irritating game online when it should be fun.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
get ready for work haha. triple dickish because he had already beaten you. meh. at least it "counts" now i suppose. but counts for what? the only stat we have is that vague-ass trueskill rating.
 

Deunnero

Member
Anyone interested in getting a few 3-4 player games started. I find the ranked variety extremely fun to play.

I will try and set up a "Ranking" post later, a tailored leaderboard, just for fun (using the TrueSkill). If you are not included, just post and I will update the thread. Good idea? or not?

Once I get a few of you added to my list, ill be able to keep it updated on a weekely basis. I'll clear up 20 or so slots and see who I can add.


EDIT: Would be fun if they included some sort of league support. We all join league, play agaist each other, and it would track stats. Other than having us post results against other gaffers here, we are pretty short on options.
 

Grecco

Member
Finally finished campaign. The Black deck is pretty strong overall. :lol

Can you unlock the Blue Black Artifact deck?
 

Shinjitsu

Banned
God damn this game, It got me back into playing Magic again, spent 50 bucks on Magic Online and built a nice Red/Black constructed standard deck. DAMN YOU DUELS OF THE PLANESWALKERS!!:lol
 

jedimike

Member
gketter said:
Argh this challenge 8 is driving me nuts

Is there a way in multi color mana decks to pick which mana cards to tap? The damn game keeps screwing me out of my reds and burning them for the greys of other summons

I could finish it if it'd let me have control of the land cards

Very frustrating

You can take control of that function through the options menu if you want. I have it set to auto select and it hasn't screwed me yet even when I have been in some complicated land mgmt situations. I beat challenge #8 with default settings
you have to attack yourself to kill the platinum angel
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Shinjitsu said:
God damn this game, It got me back into playing Magic again, spent 50 bucks on Magic Online and built a nice Red/Black constructed standard deck. DAMN YOU DUELS OF THE PLANESWALKERS!!:lol
And I bought the Jace v. Chandra Duel Deck even though I haven't played Magic since year one. Smart, Wizards, smart.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Shinjitsu said:
God damn this game, It got me back into playing Magic again, spent 50 bucks on Magic Online and built a nice Red/Black constructed standard deck. DAMN YOU DUELS OF THE PLANESWALKERS!!:lol
lol I just made a Red/Black MGO Standard deck. It was "free" with the 10 dollar coupon so it's pretty basic. But it's very fun.
 

BigAT

Member
Grecco said:
Finally finished campaign. The Black deck is pretty strong overall. :lol

Can you unlock the Blue Black Artifact deck?

I don't believe so. At least, I've beaten both regular and co-op campaign as well as the challenges and I haven't unlocked it.

I think I'm glad they didn't include it, the last co-op campaign where you have to face off against two of them made me want to rip my hair out, I can only imagine having to face people online that were using it.
 

Wrekt

Member
jedimike said:
You can take control of that function through the options menu if you want. I have it set to auto select and it hasn't screwed me yet even when I have been in some complicated land mgmt situations. I beat challenge #8 with default settings
you have to attack yourself to kill the platinum angel
What? I beat it by using the two incinerates on the platinum angel. I never even used the card that reflected damage.
 

Des0lar

will learn eventually
FUCK. Now this can't be real, can it?

I bit on Microsofts "1 Month Gold for 1€" offer and now the only game that doesn't recognize my account being "Gold" is MTG.

Why? Oh God why? :(((
 
Anyone have trouble connecting to games invited to or inviting people to? I get an error, but can connect to a random Live game easily. I think it's a port forwarding problem, if that's the case, what were your solutions?
 
Wrekt said:
What? I beat it by using the two incinerates on the platinum angel. I never even used the card that reflected damage.

That seems unlikely, since you don't have enough damage on the board to attack and kill the opponent if you use both Incinerates that way.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Wow I haven't seriously played Magic since the Tempests expansion set which was like in 1998 I think. I finally got back home after a month of being gone and turned on my Xbox 360 to find this nice little surprise.

So far I have only played the demo, but the game seems like it plays fairly similarly. Nostalgia really kicked in when a Giant Growth card appeared in my hand in the tutorial.

Now considering it has been about 10 years since I last played, I may not remember the rules very clearly, but didn't creature damage used to disappear (the creatue heals to full) after each phase and not at the end of the turn? I don't recall keeping track of how much damage a creature took until the end of the turn.

After reading this thread it looks like like this is mainly geared towards beginners (no choosing what land you tap, no fully customizable decks, etc...), but I think I will play through it and maybe jump into Magic Online or something. The fun factor is definitely still there.
 

RevenantKioku

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Wrekt said:
What? I beat it by using the two incinerates on the platinum angel. I never even used the card that reflected damage.
What?
And attacking yourself? What?
All I did was:
Summon the Woolly Thoctar.
Cast Pariah on the Platinum Angel.
Sac the Thoctar with Brion Stoutarm to smack yourself in the face which redirects it to the Platinum Angel.
AI has the Royal Assassin target Brion because it is retarded.
Incinerate Ravenous Rats.
Incinerate Liliana. She's at 6.
Pump Knight of the Skyward Eye with its own ability to make it a 5/5.
Attack with Knight of the Syward Eye and Mistmeadow Skulk for 6.
You have to remember that AI is stupid. :lol
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
NameGenerated said:
I never even touched Wooly Thoctar or Pariah
Well jeeze, aren't you cool?
You wanna give your method or... ?
 
You don't have to do any of that fancy stuff, just double incernate the Angel and you can do enough damage to kill them easily. I thought it was ridiculously easy.
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
RevenantKioku said:
Well jeeze, aren't you cool?
You wanna give your method or... ?
If I can remember...
Double incinerate the Platinum Angel.
pump up the white thing with its ability and the double strike dealy.
Sac it with the other guy which makes the royal assassin kill him I think
Play the 2/2 haste and attack with that and the kithkin.

That might be missing a few things.
 
Question: I posted a few days ago about how my wife is obsessed with this game and now we have decided to try to play some co-op online.

Here is the problem, I signed her up for the one month free gold acct. So I setup a 4 player game with one private slot, both of us are signed in on the same console (two controllers obviously) and it shows her online on my friends list and it even lets me invite. The invite pops up on the screen for her saying I have invited her to play but when she accepts she just never pops into the game. Is it just not possible to play on the same system even with 2 separate live accounts?

I asked here first before perusing the web because I thought someone may have experienced the same issue.
 
Astrolad I want to say that you are wholly responsible for me buying this game after a week's hesitation. Anyone that loves Culdcept as much as you do can't pimp a bad game.
 
Son of Godzilla said:
Astrolad I want to say that you are wholly responsible for me buying this game after a week's hesitation. Anyone that loves Culdcept as much as you do can't pimp a bad game.

Culdcept is so awesome. Is there a community here on GAF for it?
 

FFChris

Member
BigAT said:
I just played a white/white mirror ranked match.

What a boring, horrific matchup that is. The other guy quit when it was 40 to 33.

Yea, I played one of those. Luckily the guy I was playing with played until the very end (must have been an hour) and I only won because I'd unlocked more of the white deck than him.

Quitters in this game should be punished with a loss. It's so annoying.
 
NameGenerated said:
If I can remember...
Double incinerate the Platinum Angel.
pump up the white thing with its ability and the double strike dealy.
Sac it with the other guy which makes the royal assassin kill him I think
Play the 2/2 haste and attack with that and the kithkin.

I... I don't believe you. :lol

I just tried this for myself. If you play stuff in certain orders, the AI will tap the wrong lands for you and you won't be able to play everything you need to; if you find an order that works (just now I did Incinerate->Incinerate->Skyward Eye ability->Rip Clan Mauler->Sangrite Surge->Brion Stoutarm) then the AI doesn't tap the Royal Assassin, which is good because that would be retarded, and instead lets Dread's ability destroy Brion. Then she's at one, but she can assassinate your haste guy and block your Skulk.
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Thank you, Charlequin. I was going to test it myself but I'm too busy playing Two Headed Giant by myself.
:(
 

NameGenerated

Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
I'll have to try it again, but it definitely worked for me. Like I said it probably isn't exactly like that, but it's very similar.
 

RevenantKioku

PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Coldsnap said:
Does the main screen induce motion sickness on anyone else? I nearly throw up when I see it.
No, but I always think there are insects or shit crawling on my screen.
 

AstroLad

Hail to the KING baby
Son of Godzilla said:
Astrolad I want to say that you are wholly responsible for me buying this game after a week's hesitation. Anyone that loves Culdcept as much as you do can't pimp a bad game.
Well I hope it doesn't let you down. Literally millions of nerds can't be wrong, after all (see: Star Trek, D&D, etc.). The game itself is quite light, especially compared to something like Culdcept (or regular Magic), but I think it makes for a really nice value on XBLA and it certainly fosters obsessiveness in the form of card unlocking.
 
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