Keru_Shiri
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Just look up the statistical analysis people have made on how much deck-thinning fetchlands provide.
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Magic: the Gathering - Oath o/t Gatewatch |OT| Look again, the mana is now diamonds!
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
For the record you're all wrong and Innistrad shouldn't be on the NA side of the planes
this is the moon in europe.
No man on the moon no fucks given. Fix it WoTC.
this is the moon in europe.
No man on the moon no fucks given. Fix it WoTC.
But... the moon looks the same wherever you are in the world? Except in Australia where it's upside down?
unless that was the joke, in which case whoosh
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Nah, in Europe the moon isn't white but is actually a dark shade of crimson and it speaks to you when the lights are out telling you things, secret things, that man ought to not know. At least, that's been my experience since moving here.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The hemispheres and the equator sees them different, NA should see the same.
Man, that set looks dope. This block looks to be legit.
Huh. Going to be hard to not excited for those themes. Damn.
I wonder if the announcement was either delayed from while figuring out the leak, or a reaction to the leak and negative around no product shown,
/goes back to deck building in hearthstone
Huh. Going to be hard to not excited for those themes. Damn.
I wonder if the announcement was either delayed from while figuring out the leak, or a reaction to the leak and negative around no product shown,
/goes back to deck building in hearthstone
Giant Panda
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If Eternal Masters is real I hope the focus is actually on Modern. Legacy is boring and the older cards are mostly poorly designed compared to the quality of cards we get now.
I hope the focus will be OCD cubers like me. I already have a wishlist.
I just realised it's the PERFECT opportunity for a (non-foil) Volkan Baga Chrome Mox! WotC please.
charlequin
Banned
It shook up the environment fine, there were tons of new or resurgent decks in the field. You ban Eye tomorrow and the Modern metagame for the next big event looks like the PT minus the Eldrazi decks.
Worth noting that of all the ultra-powerful Eldrazi in OGW it's the only one that doesn't require C and therefore can get reduced to free by Eye.
Beyond the use of "Eldritch" (both set names having Lovecraft references should make it absolutely clear this is an intentional nod) Trick's response about the set symbol was "Nope. We are holding that back for a while" which means it's almost certainly a spoiler, probably of exactly this.
Rosewater said a few months ago that it's easier to talk about large and small but they should probably call them large and medium now based on size. I think it's better this way since the small sets have to bear a lot more weight in the draft format now. (All the Innistrad sets are bigger than normal since DFCs are just added on top though, yeah.)
He says that he didn't have a previous source that confirmed both but that he has some secret way to confirm this anyway. It sounds like there's a spot on a website somewhere that's leaking info that he knows about but no one else has picked up on yet. Given that he wasn't able to make a prediction in advance I'm not sure I buy it without more info, although it's not some fly-by-night account or anything.
What? Modern is the boring format. You can actually do degenerate stuff in the other formats without it getting banned within a year.
Giant Panda
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I find that pretty boring. I want cards and decks to be good, but not broken.
"God's Beard!"
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OGW being so strong it had more impact on Modern than BFZ did on Standard is crazy.
Giant Panda
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Modern gives a larger card pool that makes deck building more interesting. I mean I could suggest that you could play Yugioh instead if you like broken things, but I have a feeling you would take umbrage to that.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I mean BFZ did replace Atarka ramp with Eldrazi Ramp
Since I'll be trying to sell out of legacy soon I really hope they don't do anything with the reserved list until after then. The format is dead and I don't really care about the accessibility of the format unless wotc and scg were going to take a high level of interest in legacy again through pro tours and invitationals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zZzRmk8G8k
This list is similar to what i'm testing now, with some differences. I don't run equipments, but Dismember maindecks, i run 3 urborg, 4 eyes, 2 cities instead of 1-3-3, i run no revoker main, i use thorn instead of chalice and i run 4 Matter reshaper, and i run only 1 endbringer instead of 2. Deck is fun as hell, but has some really rough MU especially G1, like Lands which just steamroll you back and forth.
This list is similar to what i'm testing now, with some differences. I don't run equipments, but Dismember maindecks, i run 3 urborg, 4 eyes, 2 cities instead of 1-3-3, i run no revoker main, i use thorn instead of chalice and i run 4 Matter reshaper, and i run only 1 endbringer instead of 2. Deck is fun as hell, but has some really rough MU especially G1, like Lands which just steamroll you back and forth.
blindrocket
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After streaming the tournament I just went to streaming other Magic channels and it was like, all Eldrazi vs. Eldrazi EVERYWHERE. That and the sane people were playing Legacy.
Kibler spoke of the tourney a bit on his hearthstone stream. He doesnt really seem to care about his performance, as he admits he just doesnt play magic that much. I remember him saying last year he was going to try and win as much hearthstone as he could in 2016 so he probably just figures he can compete in a smaller pool and make dat streamer money.
Im suprised more magic pros dont try to grab that easier hearthstone money tbh. I understand kibler has a personality that helps him out a lot tho.
Im suprised more magic pros dont try to grab that easier hearthstone money tbh. I understand kibler has a personality that helps him out a lot tho.
He also gets paid to stream.
Does it matter actually? Maybe they just like the Magic game more and don't really care for the extra money. If you really cared about money, you wouldn't play Magic anyway, since a high-skilled job is a more reliable income especially with all the expenses involved in Magic.
Kibler was one of the designers of the original World of Warcraft TCG that Upper Deck put out for years, and is a huge Warcraft fan. There are very few people (maybe less than a dozen) in their late 20s/early 30s who's main/only source of income is playing TCGs- for most people, they still play Magic because they love the game. If you hooked Kibler up to a lie detector test, I wouldn't be surprised if he said he liked Hearthstone more than Magic right now.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I still have some Warcraft TCG cards at home. It works similar to hearthstone.
Late May/Early June. Dragons of Tarkir was March 27th, Modern Masters 2 was May 22nd, Magic Origins was July 8th
charlequin
Banned
Unified Team X >>> Solo X for all possible formats, but yeah I think Modern is one where it improves even moreso since the need to have three completely different, solid decks makes for very interesting metagaming.
I have to admit I was 100% wrong and they should get rid of the modern PT again. Standard is a better showcase given what they want these events to do and just one really big event per year means everyone sees the tourney where people fuck up the format and not any that follow up where it shakes out.
I think good Magic players who want to make money still get into Poker.
Yeah, that's a good point. It's really fine for Planechase (or whatever) to come out in August/September after a July set but not so much a booster-based, competitive-oriented draft set.
They didn't announce it at this PT so it is actually too late for this to happen purely on a logistical level.
My one fear is that if it's not a Pro Tour format, we won't see braintrusts work together to create decks. I don't think we get the CFB Eldrazi deck if we don't have the Pro Tour, because there just isn't the incentive to take the manhours to create the deck.
They announced Conspiracy on their Website around this time in 2014 for a July release.
If they aren't running a triple GP weekend for the set, they could totally announce it on the website
This R/W Control Deck it's hilarious and it made top 2 in a SCG Modern Regionals. It's basically Stone Rains + Propagandas lol
Little Old Man
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After watching Pride and Prejudice Zombies last night (seriously some aspects of that film captured exactly what I imagined in the original Innistrad block), and the return of Game of Thrones in April, I am becoming very excited for the SOI block!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Wish they'd have made some rare PWs in OGW for the oaths and the tutor. There really should be rare PWs anyway.
I realize it could be unflavorful but it'd probably also free up designspace for them. Like a PW with only a + and a - minus effect.
I realize it could be unflavorful but it'd probably also free up designspace for them. Like a PW with only a + and a - minus effect.
I don't know how anyone can say Legacy is broken. The restricted list is broken I guess.
Legacy Eldrazi would be a sight to behold.
How about no.
Time travel set. Past, no walkers, future, all walkers
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
1G Bearwalker
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+1 Until the beginning of your next upkeep Bearwalker becomes a 2/2 Bear creature, it's still a Planeswalker.
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The first one was a joke a serious try would be
1R Boltwalker
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-3 Boltwalker deals 3 damage to up to one target creature or player
+2 Boltwalker deals 2 damage to you and 1 damage to target opponent
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3G Lurewalker
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+5 Until end of turn Lurewalker becomes a 1/1 creature with haste and "Lurewalker must attack each turn if able. Lurewalker must be blocked by each creatue blocking player controls if able".
-10 something powerful.
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1R Boltwalker
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-3 Boltwalker deals 3 damage to up to one target creature or player
+2 Boltwalker deals 2 damage to you and 1 damage to target opponent
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3G Lurewalker
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+5 Until end of turn Lurewalker becomes a 1/1 creature with haste and "Lurewalker must attack each turn if able. Lurewalker must be blocked by each creatue blocking player controls if able".
-10 something powerful.
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Magic Pancake
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I think that's still a joke, that card would be completely dumb in basically every limited format. There just isn't much good design for planeswalkers.
Also, Eldrich Moon is a bad name and sounds like something a heavy metal band would reject for their sophomore album.
blindrocket
Member
Bueheler is streaming no ban modern! Reccomended if you want to see actualy diversity in modern
Awesome! Thanks for the heads up.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Yeah I'd either have to raise the costs/punishment or lower the amount of loyalty counters gained.
1R Boltwalker
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-3 Boltwalker deals 3 damage to target creature or player
+2 Boltwalker deals 3 damage to you and 1 damage to target opponent
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I just like the idea of a lightning strike with upside. I just don't know how to balance punishment and reward. Like I could cut the 1 damage but then you'd have to take 9 damage for every 6 damage you deal with it. The revised version like this deals 9 damage for 9 damage you take which would be fair but at the costs it's unfun to play against when your opponent can just shoot every creature you play while developing a board.
I might look at Daretti who does have additional costs for his activated abilities.
{R} Boltwalker
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-3{1R}: Boltwalker deals 3 damage to up to one target creature or player
+2{R}: Boltwalker deals 3 damage to you and 1 damage to target opponent
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divisionbyzorro
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Ugh I can't believe I agree with you. I'd much rather see Modern supported at the GP level than at the PT level at this point, especially if it means that they'll be less meddlesome with the ban list.
blindrocket
Member
Help me with this trade decision, please.
MY:
4 Copperline Gorge FOIL
1 Cryptic Command Player Reward Promo FOIL
1 Lord of Atlantis FOIL
for HIS:
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Karn Liberated
1 Mystic Gate
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Wasteland
MY:
4 Copperline Gorge FOIL
1 Cryptic Command Player Reward Promo FOIL
1 Lord of Atlantis FOIL
for HIS:
1 Ancient Tomb
1 Karn Liberated
1 Mystic Gate
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Wasteland
That would be great.
Im suprised after hearthstones success (ive no idea how popular magic online is, but i imagine its pretty much just diehards) there arent more ccg's popping up on the market. I remember an elder scrolls one announced i think?
Just feels like theres a huge market there ripe for picking. But i believe you have to make it f2p like duels and heathstone
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