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Magic: the Gathering - Oath o/t Gatewatch |OT| Look again, the mana is now diamonds!
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divisionbyzorro
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That card is the literal worst alternate win condition they've ever printed. It's also sweet, flavorful, and we won't hear the end of it for years to come.
ThLunarian
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Oh, really?
Let me tell you about a card called Chance Encounter.
Or perhaps a little number known as Celestial Convergence.
Hedron Alignment at least lets you cycle through your deck. It's nowhere near the worst. I'd also probably put it ahead of Mortal Combat (it's close, though).
I actually forgot that one existed.
Hedron Alignment, Chance Encounter, Celestial Convergence, they're all horrendous. Celestial Convergence at least seems like a card that could kinda work in a deck that utilizes Vampire Hexmage and lifegain. More importantly, neither Chance Encounter nor Celestial Convergence require you to use more than one copy. Hedron Alignment is a much better card though because at least it allows you to scry.
This card is nuts.Maro's spoiler:
The best card in their hand + whatever they spend to remove the creature is almost certainly better than what they draw off their deck.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
TL;DR They used fire and killed Kozilek and Ulamog at the same time. Really.
"killed"TL;DR They used fire and killed Kozilek and Ulamog at the same time. Really.
It won't work the next time. Cause Ugin was right.
Knot-Seer? Nazi?Maro's spoiler:
I think they might have done it if Dominaria wasn't already "post-apocalyptic world"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I forgot to link the first part - it should be there now. They're killed using Jace's special super smart person thing where he figures out how to permanently kill them.
The whole thing sounds like a cringeworthy tribute to Fate stay/night.
Yes.
Jace is wrong. Because Magic's future storylines basically demand that he's wrong.
Also, this card is actually insane and an instant 4x in Modern Eldrazi, you can easily cast it T2. (This specific card actually might push the deck over the edge long term.)
So Ugin says not to do what they did here: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/revelation-eye-2015-10-14
But Jace also thinks:
So I suppose it is mostly just whether Jace knows better than the ancient dragon we spent a whole block resurrecting and which foreshadowing is stronger.
But Jace also thinks:
So I suppose it is mostly just whether Jace knows better than the ancient dragon we spent a whole block resurrecting and which foreshadowing is stronger.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Oh I agree, I think Ugin made it pretty clear Jace is full of shit even if he thinks he did it right.
fuck ugin
SigmasonicX
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Ugh, I can't say I'm happy about this story decision.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
next time someone loses a bet they're wearing this as an avatar
divisionbyzorro
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I can build a proliferate engine with Chance Encounter and/or play it in a coinflip deck. You could put it in a deck with Zada, Hedron Grinder and Fiery Gambit. I could keep going.
For Celestial Convergence, just combo it with Vampire Hexmage or any of the other cards that pull counters off of permanents.
For this new thing, you have to manipulate the position of four different copies of this card. And paying 1U to scry is not a good consolation prize.
Maro's spoiler:
Holy shit this card is bonkers.
This actually gives them a genius hook for RTR3 to do something different. (i.e., Jace drags an Eldrazi to his home because he's a moron.)
I'm not sure about the 4cc Eldrazi (speaking of Cube), the 4-mana slot is packed with bombs. Same problem I have with the 5cc one, he looks amazing too (5 mana 5/5 with trample and haste plus some removal protection). Also <> seems so hard to produce reliably. I don't know... I don't like <> cards.
charlequin
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Yeah, the specific quote in question:
Does it seem more likely that WotC spent all this time building up and refining the identities of Ulamog and Kozilek just to permanently destroy them, even though the entire story setup was about how you couldn't really do that? Or that this is a local victory that is going to have other consequences later in the long, ongoing serial storyline they're doing now?
I will say I do dislike the idea of magically restoring the destroyed Zendikar terrain, though. Let the plane stay heavily fucked-up and play off that next time we go back.
I can't figure out if doing a colorless-vs-color theme in Ravnica is the best idea ever or the worst.
next time someone loses a bet they're wearing this as an avatar
I was this close to making it mine Lmao.
Everything in this set is going to be pretty low, because this set is absurd.Fat Chandra is preordering for $13? She's not worth it at this price.
Manlands are already rising in price slightly, the three were $2 yesterday and now Quagmire is $4.
SigmasonicX
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I just realized, Ulamog and Kozilek probably are still alive, since their spawn are specifically stated to still be around after their "death", and the spawn are just other parts of the titans. Unless they choose to ignore that aspect.
Also, Nissa and Chandra basically beat them with Channel + Fireball.
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Isn't that basically what they did in this block, with converge?
Also, Nissa and Chandra basically beat them with Channel + Fireball.
EDIT:
Isn't that basically what they did in this block, with converge?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
"So Jace, I heard you're going to Innistrad."
it's a bit like sin collector so no?
This hitting permanents is a big deal.
it also warps your mana base so it's a fair trade-off
Oh noes, I have to play Painlands.
"God's Beard!"
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The idea that Gideon could somehow aggro a pair of mindless 10,000 foot tall titans is insane.
The idea that they would show pain or fear in a form we would recognize is insane.
The idea that Jace could somehow intuit knowledge of the hedrons so rare that Ugin's plan hinges on Nahiri being found is insane.
If they kill it in response you even get to choose the best card after they draw to exile.
The idea that they would show pain or fear in a form we would recognize is insane.
The idea that Jace could somehow intuit knowledge of the hedrons so rare that Ugin's plan hinges on Nahiri being found is insane.
If they kill it in response you even get to choose the best card after they draw to exile.
Etrian Oddity
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May zendikar be cast into the abyss and never seen again after this shitty output.
I hope the Phyrexians annihilate it. Offscreen, for extra salt in the wound.
I hope the Phyrexians annihilate it. Offscreen, for extra salt in the wound.
"God's Beard!"
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More like Vendilion Clique.
Wulfric
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Absurd in what way? I feel like this whole block has been difficult to evaluate due to 3 color decks combined with Devoid and <> mana. Even so, preorders are priced fairly low disregarding the planeswalkers and Kozilek.
*shudder* It's like reading Snape/Harry slashfic. Sorin's hair game is on point though.
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