Joe Molotov
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I played a bit of the Decipher Star Wars CCG in high school. I never played or even knew much about the WotC version.
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Magic: the Gathering - Oath o/t Gatewatch |OT| Look again, the mana is now diamonds!
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Earlier I asked a couple tips on how to sell cards, and I think I came up with a solution.
I really don't have time to sift through each and every card or send them out individually but I did go through all the major/pricier ones. The "middle" price for them all added together was about $2,500.
Craigslist in my city always has people who are buying MTG collections, so I figured I might use that to my advantage. My question to you all: How much of a discount should I put out to guarantee my collection gets bought all at once?
I really don't have time to sift through each and every card or send them out individually but I did go through all the major/pricier ones. The "middle" price for them all added together was about $2,500.
Craigslist in my city always has people who are buying MTG collections, so I figured I might use that to my advantage. My question to you all: How much of a discount should I put out to guarantee my collection gets bought all at once?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The Star Wars CCG is why I don't have any dual lands
WanderingWind
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I mean, you know how much you want for 'em. Set that price there and see if it works. Unless you need the money now. People get too fast with trying to flip cards. If you feel they're worth 1000 bucks, set that as the price and see if they sell. If they don't in say, a month, relist lower, making sure to change wording (or people will wait for further drops because people who troll for MtG cards online know how the game works).
hairypeckpeck
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did a draft last night with both of my rares being oath of jace.
opened up my pack for winning and it's
opened up my pack for winning and it's
my third oath of jace :|
I bought four packs on launch day:
Pack 1: General Tazri
Pack 2: Oath of Chandra
Pack 3: Oath of Gideon
Pack 4: Oath of Jace
It was weird. Didn't even get the one Oath I'd actually like for my constructed decks!
Start the listing at 80% of the TCGPlayer low price, but expect to get haggled down to 50-65%. Mid is mostly meaningless, except for inflating the value of a collection (so you should definitely use the mid prices in your listing.)
Try to get at least 60% low. That's the point where resellers wouldn't be making any profit if they value their time, but people who actually want cards in your collection would still be interested.
edit: Add bulk prices for everything you haven't individually priced to these figures. Double the bulk prices for the original listing; your goal is to find someone who wants the collection to play with it, not resell it.
That's highway robbery.
For the buyer or the seller?
Joe Molotov
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Things could be worse. One of the teams at our 2HG prerelease opened a playset of Call the Gatewatch in their pool (and no planeswalkers).
Did you sell into the spike?
keeblerdrow
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Those three I'd be happy enough to open in multiples. When you manage to open Obscuring Aether in 3 out of your 4 prize packs at fnm, we'll talk about opening your bulk rares in bulk. My friends at the LGS use obscuring aether as a shorthand for unlucky bulk rare pulls because of the sheer number of them I pulled in front of others in draft and prize packs.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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3-0d another draft. My direction was fairly easy with opening Thought-Knot and Reality Smasher in my OGW packs and getting passed 2 times the blue tapper and the uncommon 1 drop that let's you draw cards.
BFZ added an Ob Nixilis, the Converge flier and 2 Blighted lands in my colours oh and a way too late going exert influence.
Mana fixing is so free in OGW I could have played converge for 5 if I needed to.
BFZ added an Ob Nixilis, the Converge flier and 2 Blighted lands in my colours oh and a way too late going exert influence.
Mana fixing is so free in OGW I could have played converge for 5 if I needed to.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Joe Molotov
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I played some kid at FNM that built an Obscuring Aether/Secret Plans deck. It was a sad day for him when he found out that combo doesn't work the way he thought it did.
How did he think it worked? Did he think he could flip the obscuring aether back up after turning it face down or something?
Joe Molotov
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Yeah, he got confused with manifest and thought he could pay the casting cost and reflip it.
You forgot about transaction fees, which (on TCGPlayer) are over 20% on $5 cards, and 16% on $10 cards. Not to mention time and shipping fees, which are usually at a loss; I'd be surprised if a reseller who buys collections at 60% could make minimum wage.
There's a reason your LGS won't pay more than 30-40% for your collection. Magic cards aren't that liquid.
Maybe I should recheck craigslist here to see what people are paying on collections; the market might be friendlier to sellers than it was ~2-3 years ago when I was buying.
If I could sell my Modern collection for ~65% right now, I'd definitely do it. I don't play paper much anymore, and it's way too time consuming to sell random $1-$10 cards online. Selling a $10 card on tcgplayer and only getting to keep ~7.50 after shipping just isn't worth the time.
Agreed. I feel bad for the people who try to make a living on TCGPlayer; their fees are worse than ebay for cards under $15 or so, which is ridiculous. There's no good place to sell sub-$10 cards.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
"And look for our new set 'Cards What We Made coming this summer. Also, we're all of us 68 years old and how do Internet searches work? Tweeter us!"
lololololol
Why not just go with Uncharted Realms: Official Magic Fiction?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Coming Fall 2016: Fall 2016 Large Set™
In fairness, they're right. What's its actually called is irrelevant for anything other than SEO and "Magic story" probably gets them the most hits.
In fairness, they're right. What's its actually called is irrelevant for anything other than SEO and "Magic story" probably gets them the most hits.
Little Old Man
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Magic financegaf: I'm trying to plan out how to buy at least a playset of every fetch land, ideally spacing purchases out over the next several months. Obviously they will remain in standard until April, when Khans and Fates rotate out.
Arguably around then there could be a small price drop as standard only players sell off in the next few months, but I imagine most players will hold onto them due to use in every other format/long term value. In addition the majority of Khans/Fates packs have been opened, so these cards have reached peak circulation in the market.
So whilst I'm not at all looking to wait for any possible negligible price decrease, I'm wondering how prices will likely develop in the 6 months post rotation. I'm envisaging a slow but steady increase over time, in which case I'll happily spread my purchases out, even if it means paying an extra one to two pounds each further down the line. But am I wrong to think this is how prices will develop?
Arguably around then there could be a small price drop as standard only players sell off in the next few months, but I imagine most players will hold onto them due to use in every other format/long term value. In addition the majority of Khans/Fates packs have been opened, so these cards have reached peak circulation in the market.
So whilst I'm not at all looking to wait for any possible negligible price decrease, I'm wondering how prices will likely develop in the 6 months post rotation. I'm envisaging a slow but steady increase over time, in which case I'll happily spread my purchases out, even if it means paying an extra one to two pounds each further down the line. But am I wrong to think this is how prices will develop?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't expect them to dip that much rotation, mostly for price memory reasons combined with Modern's increasing popularity. Off-color fetches continuing to be legal in Commander combined with off color fetches being played in large amounts in Modern gives them a better long term price trajectory than shocks did. Shocks are all $10 despite most of them being 1-2 copies per deck.
Enemy fetches are going to be gross from now until they see reprint. I moved a set of Tarns I bought at $50 for ~$85 each after the Twin ban (since I'm not using them anymore). I would continue to expect them to be pricey and in the case of the less played ones like Arid Mesa or Marsh Flats, to continually rise towards the higher end ones simply on the back of supply issues. Allied fetches I think stay pretty much where they are for the foreseeable future. There are a goddamn lot of Windswept Heaths floating around.
Enemy fetches are going to be gross from now until they see reprint. I moved a set of Tarns I bought at $50 for ~$85 each after the Twin ban (since I'm not using them anymore). I would continue to expect them to be pricey and in the case of the less played ones like Arid Mesa or Marsh Flats, to continually rise towards the higher end ones simply on the back of supply issues. Allied fetches I think stay pretty much where they are for the foreseeable future. There are a goddamn lot of Windswept Heaths floating around.
They'll dip a bit like everything does after rotation, but with their prominent use in every format and Modern season starting in June/July they will start climbing up again pretty quickly. I'd recommend focusing on enemy fetchlands at the moment, then friendly once the sets rotate in a few months (unless you need specific ones for a deck to play, of course).
Little Old Man
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Sorry I should have specified that I'm talking about the friendly fetches. There's no way I could justify the enemy fetches sadly, they can wait for a reprint along with cavern of souls.
Thanks for the advice though. I'll probably aim to grab a playset a month then!
Thanks for the advice though. I'll probably aim to grab a playset a month then!
If you're gonna get that basic, just use "Magic Fiction".
SigmasonicX
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but those search hits tho
Kind of hoping that a pony named Magic Story gets introduced in MLP just to screw over the searching.
divisionbyzorro
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Who the hell is steering this clown car anyway?
shrapnelmagnet
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Interestingly, my Oath Fat Pack had only 83 land 
charlequin
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In fairness, the stuff Rosewater covers is probably most of his actual perspective on it. For events that actually involve Magic he would have a pretty good vantage point, but I'd imagine the bullshit Hasbro did around that license was pretty obscure to most of WotC's employees at the time unless someone got drunk and told them about it at GenCon.
Unless you're in a rush so you can pay for rent or meth, try on the high side to start just in case someone bites.
That started happening like a decade ago, we just get to see specific places it happens in real time now. A decent portion of WotC actually seems to be run by competent people (especially Magic R&D, Magic Creative, and Magic Brand.) The problem areas are all ones that Hasbro has sway over (legal), that are hamstrung by budget (organized play), or that are digital in any way whatsoever (the website, MTGO, Duels.)
It wouldn't solve the Reserved List or constant bizarre tinkering with pro play schedules, but I think if they just got rid of their existing digital departments entirely and brought in correctly-paid fresh talent off the street, the appearance of WotC competence would skyrocket. Other than Alexis Janson (who I felt like got railroaded a bit) I don't think they'd lose anyone of value.
blindrocket
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That's funny, because I bought a random single pack today while in line at Wal-Mart and the rare inside was...
Oath of Jace
Was there a paper reprint of Eidolon of the Great Revel that I missed? Trying to figure out why it's 10 in paper but 25 online, aside from burn being like 12% of the MTGO meta.
If I'm not missing an Event Deck or Clash Pack reprint, there's absolutely no way it's staying at 10 as modern season approaches.
If I'm not missing an Event Deck or Clash Pack reprint, there's absolutely no way it's staying at 10 as modern season approaches.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Burn isn't a fun deck to play and it's actually on the more expensive end of Modern if you don't count Jund or Junk costs. It's overrepresented because despite Eidolon being 25 online overall it's a lot cheaper online.
SigmasonicX
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Save a life, have a blocker!
Seems pretty strong. Compare to Safe Passage.
The effect is just slightly weaker, but then you get a 0/5 blocker on top of that, which is pretty big. It might be fine, but I recommend paying attention to it during testing.
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