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[Haly]

Aaaaah, there it is. So Golgari is really going to have a fungal theme.

Hmm, didn't realize it would target you too. Targeting the opponent is like completely irrelevant though, it's an even shittier praetor's grasp.

Well, if you had multiples, you could basically look for another Jace, and then nab one of their planeswalkers. Alright, maybe that's not "GG" precisely but it's going to be pretty damn difficult to get out of.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Grove of the Guardian
Land Rare
{T}: Add 1 to your mana pool.
3{G}{W}, {T}, Tap two untapped creatures you control, Sacrifice Grove of the Guardian : Put an 8/8 green and white Elemental Creature token with vigilance on to the battlefield.

 

[bigkrev]

1. Activate Jace ultimate

2. Find Worldfire in your deck

3. Find any creature or burn spell in opponents deck

4. ????

 

[The Technomancer]

This set is going to be so fucking bonkers.

 

[Haly]

1. Activate Jace ultimate

2. Find Worldfire in your deck

3. Find any creature or burn spell in opponents deck

4. ????

I sincerely hope at least one deck makes use of this.

 

[ajf009]

1. Activate Jace ultimate

2. Find Worldfire in your deck

3. Find any creature or burn spell in opponents deck

4. ????

The question is do they all happen simultaneously?

 

[narcosis219]

This set is going to be so fucking bonkers.

You forgot the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The question is do they all happen simultaneously?

I'm pretty sure you choose which to cast. You don't necessarily have to cast it at all because of the word "may".

 

[divisionbyzorro]

New Jace looks good, but I don't see him blowing up games. I do, however, see him being overhyped and overpriced when RtR hits shelves.

 

[bigkrev]

The question is do they all happen simultaneously?

Nah, you can cast the cards whenever you want, assuming you could legally cast the spell at the time.

Seems like a fun way to win in EDH

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I sincerely hope at least one deck makes use of this.

It would have to be sideboard, not everyone has burn.

 

[narcosis219]

It would have to be sideboard, not everyone has burn.

But dude....

Take a 1/1 creature. ANY CREATURE. Once worldfire resolves, no one will have anything. If you get to cast a creature for free you win the game.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

But dude....

Take a 1/1 creature. ANY CREATURE. Once worldfire resolves, no one will have anything. If you get to cast a creature for free you win the game.

I know, still seems risky if they don't match colors. I think it's fun sideboard but seems stupid to mainboard.

 

[bigkrev]

It would have to be sideboard, not everyone has burn.

Well, there is no such thing as a deck with zero creatures in standard right now. Any creature at all is going to win you the game.

I'm pretty happy they are printing the Terminate for Planeswalkers. One of the big problems with JTMS was that there were no cards that could deal with him. Now, we have O-ring and this, which help in the case that Planeswalkers get too strong again.

 

[Haly]

I think RU will be a thing so...

 

[narcosis219]

I know, still seems risky if they don't match colors. I think it's fun sideboard but seems stupid to mainboard.

...what?

Cast the cards without paying their costs. Just take their bomb and win the game the next turn. There isn't a single card in standard where you can cast with 0 land and 1 life. Not even phyrexian mana cards. If you're playing modern, im sure their bomb will beat out ornithopter

 

[bigkrev]

I think RU will be a thing so...

Yeah, thank god THIS

Isn't going to be around while we still have Phyrexian Mana/Ponder around. Seems like a secondary kill for a storm deck in Modern

 

[ultron87]

Aaw, you edited to say "In Standard". I was about to drop some Pacts on you.

 

[Haly]

Fuck, I'm going to spend so much money on RtR.

 

[bigkrev]

...what?

Cast the cards without paying their costs. Just take their bomb and win the game the next turn. There isn't a single card in standard where you can cast with 0 land and 1 life. Not even phyrexian mana cards. If you're playing modern, im sure their bomb will beat out ornithopter

But...But... Tormad's Crypt!

 

[narcosis219]

Aaw, you edited to say "In Standard". I was about to drop some Pacts on you.

You could also say memnites, but those rotate out.

But...But... Tormad's Crypt!

Okay, I'll rephrase:

There isn't any card you can currently draw in Innistrad block and M13 that would be able to stand a chance against the Geist of St. Traft that you tutor and cast out of their deck. Not a memnite, not a tormod's crypt, not anything.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

...what?

Cast the cards without paying their costs. Just take their bomb and win the game the next turn. There isn't a single card in standard where you can cast with 0 land and 1 life. Not even phyrexian mana cards. If you're playing modern, im sure their bomb will beat out ornithopter

I can't read alright? Leave me alone! ;.;

 

[narcosis219]

I can't read alright? Leave me alone! ;.;

You know what else you're wrong about? ZOMBIES. =D

 

[acheron_xl]

Whoa. Dreadbore is crazy powerful but not really exciting, but that lantern....really? Three mana for unlimited fixing as a static ability?

Mana fixing power creep.

 

[rexor0717]

So I have a question now that everyone is talking about new Jace. In a commander setting, is he better than Jace Belerin? My planeswalker EDH deck can only have one of each named walker, and I'm looking to replace Jace Belerin with something. The best thing about this one for me is the constant hosing of opponents creatures. Its an incredibly defensive deck, so this would only help it more. Or would it be smart to just save a bit, and get a JtMS?

Also, that lantern is for sure in the deck. Easiest 5 color fixing ever? And ramp? Yes.

 

[The Technomancer]

Mechanics article is up: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/211

I LIKE

 

[ultron87]

Ah, so the Gates are common always ETB tabbed dual lands. That's wonderful for Limited.

And I like the Azorius mechanic:

 

[bigkrev]

Mechanics article is up: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/211

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUCK YEAH HERO'S REUNION REPTRINT

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

You know what else you're wrong about? ZOMBIES. =D

I DON'T NEED TO KNOW HOW TO READ TO KNOW THEY SUCK MOTHERFUCKER!

 

[narcosis219]

More duals. Guaranteed to ETB tapped, but it's good for limited manabase i guess. Budget decks rejoice!!!

 

[bigkrev]

Man, it would have been great for limited if they decided to replace the basic land in each pack with one of those gates. As is, there pretty sweet for limited- although i'm scared that there might be creatures with "gatewalk", or other abilites that punish you for having gates.

Also, really wish I was at this party

 

[The Technomancer]

More duals. Guaranteed to ETB tapped, but it's good for limited manabase i guess. Budget decks rejoice!!!

Some cards care about Gates. Almost definitely no constructed play but yeah, Limited is going to be fun.

 

[Haly]

I guess it was too much to ask for constructed viable dual lands.

 

[Gatekeeper]

I guess it was too much to ask for constructed viable dual lands.

you mean, except for shocklands?

 

[Haly]

you mean, except for shocklands?

Sorry. I meant, at common/uncommon levels.

 

[rexor0717]

I guess it was too much to ask for constructed viable dual lands.

This was about to be the most woefully misplaced argument against RtR.

 

[Volimar]

WotC should hire you guys. Hyped!

 

[Haly]

WotC should hire you guys. Hyped!

I'd tattoo the color pie on my butt for a job at Wizards. Not gonna lie, card design must be pretty fun.

 

[acheron_xl]

Mechanics article is up: http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/211

I LIKE

I really want to pair populate with cards that make token copies, like Spitting Image.

 

[ultron87]

Populate obviously means it is finally Parallel Lives' time to shine!

 

[Haly]

I didn't think of this:

Mizzium Mortars doesn't have any targets if you paid its overload cost, so it will even hit creatures with hexproof that it couldn't ordinarily target. (Protection from red will still work, because the damage will be prevented.)

This makes Overload much more attractive in my eyes.

 

[Yeef]

Common dual lands is a pretty big deal. Especially in limited and "rarity-matters" formats like pauper. Also, a functional reprint of rupture spire isn't too shabby either.

I'm really interested to see what they do with the detain keyword at common.

 

[narcosis219]

I didn't think of this:

This makes Overload much more attractive in my eyes.

The first thing I thought of was "fuck you hexproof". Makes hexproof creatures way less powerful against any deck that has red.

 

[Hero]

RTR seems powerful. Can't wait.

 

[acheron_xl]

The first thing I thought of was "fuck you hexproof". Makes hexproof creatures way less powerful against any deck that has red.

I don't see this as a bad thing. Hexproof seems more common since they keyworded it, so there need to be answers.

 

[ZZMitch]

I have a few decks that I want to improve, but I will just post one at a time over the next week or so in order not to confuse any one heh. I just bought a few booster packs last night, it has been a real long time since I had done that!

Anyway, here is my blue/black deck, I don't really have a special name for any decks. I am not up to par with the magic lingo yet heh. Creatures consist of a lot of ninjas and creatures that have special abilities when they do damage to a player. Most of the spells either give me some information on what the other player is doing or help some of my creatures get through and deal damage to the player. Potential problems include being able to compete in the early game I think since most of the creatures cost 3 or more mana.

Lands:
14 Island
8 Swamp
1 Waterveil Cavern
1 Tainted Isle
24 Lands

Creatures:
1 Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni
2 Throat Slitter
3 Mistblade Shinobi
1 Shimian Specter
1 Doomsday Specter
1 Raven Guild Master
2 Higure, the Still Wind
2 Smogsteed Rider
1 Student of Elements
1 Scalpelexis
1 Inkfathom Witch
2 Ninja of the Deep Hours
18 Creatures

Other Spells:
1 Coastal Piracy
1 Whispersilk Cloak
2 Writ of Passage
1 Exhaustion
1 Mind Bend
2 Spy Network
2 Dragon Wings
4 Veil of Secrecy
1 Trickery Charm
1 Telepathy
2 Terror
18 Other Spells

Still working on building sideboards for all my decks since I never had them before. Looking at this deck I think it would be fun to build a discard deck. I am guessing you would want a lot of black for that?

I don't think anyone saw this because it was the last post on a page a few pages back so ill repost heh.

 

[narcosis219]

I don't see this as a bad thing. Hexproof seems more common since they keyworded it, so there need to be answers.

It's not. I HATE hexproof. LOL. Shroud was as far as it should have gone. I'm so glad that there is a mechanic coming in as an answer to hexproof.

 

[Volimar]

Remember banding? Wasn't banding fun?

Spoiler

too many mechanics these days...



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[narcosis219]

I don't think anyone saw this because it was the last post on a page a few pages back so ill repost heh.

Tormented Soul and Invisible Stalker both work great with Ninjutsu because they are unblockable. You might find yourself having trouble getting damage through, so they will help immensely. Plus, they only cost 1/2 mana and they are dirt cheap. Do damage, switch with ninjutsu, then recast Tormented/Invisible Stalker. HUGE pressure.

Ravenous Rats also comes to mind as a good card that disrupts hands.

 

[WanderingWind]

Rakdos got mechanic fucked. Which is okay, considering what they're getting thus far with spell support. But +1/+1 and no ability to block? Lame! Especially compared to detain.

 

[The Technomancer]

Rakdos got mechanic fucked. Which is okay, considering what they're getting thus far with spell support. But +1/+1 and no ability to block? Lame! Especially compared to detain.

Someone pointed out that it might be potent in very aggressive decks depending on how it shows up in the <3 CMC range. I could see it.