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[Little Old Man]

It really annoys me how DOTP 2012 only allows one solution to the challenges when there are many. Turns them into a frustrating trial and error process.

 

[ultron87]

It really annoys me how DOTP 2012 only allows one solution to the challenges when there are many. Turns them into a frustrating trial and error process.

Does it actually prevent some solutions from working or something in a way beyond the cards on the table? I feel like I solved a few in the not totally intended way.

 

[echoshifting]

Oooo, actually. Green. Surely there's a way to quickly get a +1/+1 counter on that guy.

 

[Leunam]

Yes.

Thanks.

 

[Little Old Man]

I just did the Master your destiny challenge. Followed the solution up to a point, then deployed Borgadon Hellkite, which does 5 damage as you wish to split between creatures/players. In the 'proper' solution, you aim the damage at two of the three creatures on the board and carry on.

But when I tried two throw the five damage points onto Jace, it gave me no choice over the player, and threw the damage back onto me. Unless I'm missing something, why didn't it finish off Jace?

 

[ultron87]

Does he have a Leyline of Sanctity out or something else that would make him untargetable?

 

[WanderingWind]

Jace is an asshole even in DotP???

 

[Little Old Man]

Does he have a Leyline of Sanctity out or something else that would make him untargetable?

I'll have a look.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Jace is an asshole even in DotP???

You'd like him; he runs an illusion deck in DotP '12.

 

[WanderingWind]

You'd like him; he runs an illusion deck in DotP '12.

Oh.

Well. I may have to play a bit further in '12.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

They're really, really not even attempting anything that even resembles balance.

Hey, black. We'll give you a creature that your opponent can kill easily, take control of and it'll be stronger than before! Isn't that cool!

And make it a rare to boot.

Turn 1: Grafdiggers Cage
Turn 2: Treacherous Pit Dweller
Profit?

Eh, you're wasting cards if you have to add grafdiggers cage and screw over your other undying. It's just a horrible card.

Does it actually prevent some solutions from working or something in a way beyond the cards on the table? I feel like I solved a few in the not totally intended way.

It did it in the first one, can't remember about 2012. Especially if it was something that took place over 2 turns. I would have killed him and it said failed at the start of my second turn...

 

[ultron87]

The second to last Archenemy game in the campaign is you vs 3 Jaces. It is quite annoying. Thankfully the AI is still pretty stupid.

 

[echoshifting]

The second to last Archenemy game in the campaign is you vs 3 Jaces. It is quite annoying.

I came so close to rage quitting, god. Awful.

Anyway, Jace does in fact have a leyline of sanctity for that challenge.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

The second to last Archenemy game in the campaign is you vs 3 Jaces. It is quite annoying. Thankfully the AI is still pretty stupid.

Mostly because you have to face three opponents allied with each other who each have 4 copies of Krovikan Mist in their deck...

 

[WanderingWind]

The thing with DotP is that now I sort of know what I'm doing, it's just so slow and restrictive and the AI is just....grrrrr.

I just want to play the challenges, so I'm hoping the next version has that separate from the campaign.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Do you have to play the challenges? I don't even remember anymore.

 

[echoshifting]

They're optional. Maybe the first one is required for tutorial purposes, can't remember but I doubt it

 

[divisionbyzorro]

In 2012, it's the other way around - you have to play the campaign to unlock challenges.

 

[WanderingWind]

Do you have to play the challenges? I don't even remember anymore.

No, you have to play the cruddy matches to get to the challenges.

 

[Little Old Man]

Damn it, had just the card you said, making him hexproof.

 

[The Technomancer]

Do you have to play the challenges? I don't even remember anymore.

Nah, I'm pretty sure they were all optional

 

[echoshifting]

So are you guys getting DotP 2013? Now that I'm back in the paper game I might skip it. Put 250 hours in across the two games and kinda feel like I got my fill. Didn't help that 2012 felt phoned in at times.

 

[WanderingWind]

So are you guys getting DotP 2013? Now that I'm back in the paper game I might skip it. Put 250 hours in across the two games and kinda feel like I got my fill. Didn't help that 2012 felt phoned in at times.

I will, because I'm a dirty consumerist whore.

 

[ultron87]

Having 2013 on iPad is really really appealing to me. I'll probably resist double dipping on 360 unless the iPad version is super terrible.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

So are you guys getting DotP 2013? Now that I'm back in the paper game I might skip it. Put 250 hours in across the two games and kinda feel like I got my fill. Didn't help that 2012 felt phoned in at times.

Depends if they get the rules right. I'll probably wait for the community to weigh in, and if it seems to address my grievances with 2012, I might.

 

[echoshifting]

Having 2013 on iPad is really really appealing to me. I'll probably resist double dipping on 360 unless the iPad version is super terrible.

I forgot about the iOS release.

Dammit.

 

[WanderingWind]

I forgot about the iOS release.

Dammit.

Welcome to the fold. Here is your official whore outfit. Wear it proudly.

 

[Venfayth]

So does the undying mean when he dies he goes to the opponent?

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

So does the undying mean when he dies he goes to the opponent?

Yes

 

[WanderingWind]

So does the undying mean when he dies he goes to the opponent?

Uh, well in this case, but that's not really part of "undying."

Undying means that if a creature doesn't have a +1/+1 counter on it, when it dies it comes back to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter.

 

[Haly]

You can sacrifice it, exile it, bounce it (actually benefits from vapor snag!) in response to the control switch trigger.

 

[echoshifting]

Welcome to the fold. Here is your official whore outfit. Wear it proudly.

I will pay the extra $5 for the vintage whore outfit

I need the cred

 

[WanderingWind]

I will pay the extra $5 for the vintage whore outfit

I need the cred

You're in luck. It's foiled.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

You're in luck. It's foiled.

:lol

I don't know what to buy for standard. I wish Avacyn would get here already.

 

[Hex]

So are you guys getting DotP 2013? Now that I'm back in the paper game I might skip it. Put 250 hours in across the two games and kinda feel like I got my fill. Didn't help that 2012 felt phoned in at times.

Will get it, which version will depend on which has the best promo lol

 

[Venfayth]

Uh, well in this case, but that's not really part of "undying."

Undying means that if a creature doesn't have a +1/+1 counter on it, when it dies it comes back to the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter.

I just wasn't clear if undying prevents him from going to the graveyard in the first place. But, I got it now.

 

[Sinatar]

I played a lot of 2012, but now that I'm full into MTGO I don't really see the point so I'll probably pass on 2013.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Someone told me the hell vault got spoiled? Is this true?

Edit: Ya, seems it was spoiled on MTG salvation forums.

 

[Sinatar]

Someone told me the hell vault got spoiled? Is this true?

Edit: Ya, seems it was spoiled on MTG salvation forums.

Well don't keep us waiting, what's in it?

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Well don't keep us waiting, what's in it?

EDIT (April 18th): As of this week we know what will be in the Helvault, It is oversized angel cards, angel tokens, and 20-sided dice for AVR.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=402916

Edit: Apparently there used to be pics up but wizards got them taken down.

Edit2: Updates:


#edit: I guess the relevant thing in this is that the top part of the Helvault is completely empty, and everything is held in the base. Given this size limitation, I don't see how there could possibly be a full set of 5 oversize cards per player (or 4 tokens per player either).

#edit2: Or, alternatively, the top part is supposed to be full of oversize cards and tokens and we got screwed over. Seems unlikely

 

[Metroidvania]

Well don't keep us waiting, what's in it?

Apparently, oversized EDH cards for Avacyn, the 3 legendary angels, and Griselbrand, demon and angel oversized token cards, and a spindown.

Would be nice to have for Commander decks, but none of my LGS' are having helvault prereleases. :/

edit: beat.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Apparently, oversized EDH cards for Avacyn, the 3 legendary angels, and Griselbrand, demon and angel oversized token cards, and a spindown.

Would be nice to have for Commander decks, but none of my LGS' are having helvault prereleases. :/

edit: beat.

Really? Seems weird none by you would.

 

[Metroidvania]

Really? Seems weird none by you would.

Eh, I haven't looked all that hard, tbh. There's two in a 30 mile radius that are actual card/PnP/board game stores, and I haven't seen any signs or heard about the Helvault promo, but then again, I wasn't specifically looking forward to it or anything.

I might have to extend my search out farther now.

I think for the cards that everyone gets one of the oversized cards, one token and a die. I don't think everyone gets a full set. But I didn't see the exact # of cards in the helvault on the salvation forums when I skimmed through.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Eh, I haven't looked all that hard, tbh. There's two in a 30 mile radius that are actual card/PnP/board game stores, and I haven't seen any signs or heard about the Helvault promo, but then again, I wasn't specifically looking forward to it or anything.

I might have to extend my search out farther now.

I think for the cards that everyone gets one of the oversized cards, one token and a die. I don't think everyone gets a full set. But I didn't see the exact # of cards in the helvault on the salvation forums when I skimmed through.

I think it was like 54-108-54 or something. So one big card, 2 tokens, 1 die for each person one person said. Can't find the page now though.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

Tamiyo preorders have now jumped up to $40 and Tibalt is at $30? LOLOLOLOLOL

I love preorder prices.

 

[Hex]

This time if all goes well I will be busting 2 Japanese boxes and 1 english at launch, pack ripping fever is definitely a bad thing lol.
Was only able to get one japanese box for Dark Ascension and one english.

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

This time if all goes well I will be busting 2 Japanese boxes and 1 english at launch, pack ripping fever is definitely a bad thing lol.
Was only able to get one japanese box for Dark Ascension and one english.

I wish I could get a german one. They're absurdly expensive though.

 

[Hex]

I wish I could get a german one. They're absurdly expensive though.

I usually love Japanese and Russian, I haven't found a reasonable source of german in a long long time

 

[godofcookery]

I want a zombie planeswalker. He was one all along, but didn't know it until he died and came back.

Also, a goblin PW, because why the hell not.

Squee!

 

[Zaraki_Kenpachi]

I usually love Japanese and Russian, I haven't found a reasonable source of german in a long long time

oooooo Where did you get Russian? That sounds pretty cool. How expensive are those?