Um... I think we're thinking the same thing, but not exactly
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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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Um... I think we're thinking the same thing, but not exactly
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NameGenerated
Who paid you to grab Dr. Pavel?
Oh sorry, misread. I thought you meant put it in the bubble where the artist is.
charlequin
Banned
Linneman is good people and this is a great setup. Not a lot of opportunity to see stuff like this, hope it does gangbusters.
The first wave of Hour of Darkness is already printed at this point, I think.
Ah, okay. Yeah, I wouldn't expect Hasbro corporate to do much more than that (offer a rubber stamp or active meddling), but what confuses me is that WotC has their own internal marketing team too (even if they call it "Brand" it's still a marketing team, really.) What really surprises me is that this got past Creative and the WotC production department and the Brand team without someone saying WTF.
GregLombardi
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Most are putrid because of the border / font. Mind Twist is mindnumbingly amazing. Counterspells art is awesome.
I won't look a gift horse in the mouth if I open one, and they look slightly better in person than in images, but they do appear to be the OOOGLIEST magic cards I have ever seen.
I won't look a gift horse in the mouth if I open one, and they look slightly better in person than in images, but they do appear to be the OOOGLIEST magic cards I have ever seen.
charlequin
Banned
Applies to this or good cards in general.
I don't get all the bitching about how unreadable the cards are. The whole issue with Textless Spells was that a player couldn't pick it up and know what the spell did- they just had the name. These are the opposite- the cards text boxes seem easier to read than even a normal magic card with large, bold print. Isn't that the part that is actually important?
GoutPatrol
Forgotten in his cell
I have no problems with the spells they chose. It is a great collection of cool. Powerful stuff. The frames are just the dirt worst.
charlequin
Banned
I don't think you actually have to go that far afield to fix the layout here. A lot of the Photoshopped versions really aim to tear it up completely or focus on aesthetic problems that people aren't necessarily any better at than WotC was; I spent 15 minutes just focusing on legibility and art presentation and I think you can go a long way with small tweaks:
Text box legibility is important for verifying the exact functioning of a card (which this does perfectly well.) Title bar legibility, and art size/visual impact, is important for easily telling similar cards apart, which this is significantly bad at.
Text box legibility is important for verifying the exact functioning of a card (which this does perfectly well.) Title bar legibility, and art size/visual impact, is important for easily telling similar cards apart, which this is significantly bad at.
Other than creatures and enchantments feeling like a weird fit for a series titled "Invocations", I'm largely pretty happy with the selections too. It's striking the right balance between eternal playables, cool casual cards, commander staples, and thematic fits that previous sets have. I even think, if they're going to do creatures, Loyal Retainers is a pretty inspired choice. Thematically relevant, eternal and commander playable, and worth a decent chunk of change? That's a perfect choice.
then I look at the frames and some of the art again......sjdlkfjklsdjflkjdklfkljljkljdvindicatesijiodjiojfj
Jesus WotC
then I look at the frames and some of the art again......sjdlkfjklsdjflkjdklfkljljkljdvindicatesijiodjiojfj
Jesus WotC
charlequin
Banned
At least Forsythe has a sense of humor about it:
That art is so so gorgeous. Easily my favorite WoG art of all time. The mockups make it so obvious how beautiful it could look in a standard frame. Design did an incredible disservice to Titus. I know it's already been posted, but just look at this!
The focus on impending doom instead of the scene of obliteration itself is a new take on wrath, the color palette fits both a white card and the ominous tone needed for it, the sheer scale of it is incredible, and the subtle use of an arrow as the delivery mechanism for the wrath of the white god- who's been depicted as an archer? Just perfect. <3
The focus on impending doom instead of the scene of obliteration itself is a new take on wrath, the color palette fits both a white card and the ominous tone needed for it, the sheer scale of it is incredible, and the subtle use of an arrow as the delivery mechanism for the wrath of the white god- who's been depicted as an archer? Just perfect. <3
Infinite Stars
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Taken from Reddit, because it's true regarding the Invocations:
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Holy shit it's an arrow.
Giant Panda
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Using these cards will be the new way to tilt opponents at tournaments.
I really wish they would push these series to be art-centric, at least the Masterpieces had'full-art' even if the text box covered a portion of it.I don't think you actually have to go that far afield to fix the layout here. A lot of the Photoshopped versions really aim to tear it up completely or focus on aesthetic problems that people aren't necessarily any better at than WotC was; I spent 15 minutes just focusing on legibility and art presentation and I think you can go a long way with small tweaks:
Text box legibility is important for verifying the exact functioning of a card (which this does perfectly well.) Title bar legibility, and art size/visual impact, is important for easily telling similar cards apart, which this is significantly bad at.
This card, Daze and Mind Twist have great art. Counterbalance and Counterspell look pretty good as well. Shame the border and text distract from that.That art is so so gorgeous. Easily my favorite WoG art of all time. The mockups make it so obvious how beautiful it could look in a standard frame. Design did an incredible disservice to Titus. I know it's already been posted, but just look at this!
The focus on impending doom instead of the scene of obliteration itself is a new take on wrath, the color palette fits both a white card and the ominous tone needed for it, the sheer scale of it is incredible, and the subtle use of an arrow as the delivery mechanism for the wrath of the white god- who's been depicted as an archer? Just perfect. <3
Imagine the tilt on a Terminus Invocation.
The worst tilt is going to be when I forget my opponent has counterbalance on the board because there's some weird gold illegible monstrosity on the table opposite me instead. The invocation terminus wiping my board a turn later will just be the salty icing on the shit cake.
LOLOLOLOL Wizards will only stream Limited and Standard
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I play commander with a couple whales at times it's already bad.
I'm 100% a whale, but consistency is ultimately a higher aesthetic value than bling, at any cost. I can't see too many people wanting to fill their decks with total nonsense just because it's premium. (Although I also hope we don't get classic frame promos for 25th anniversary or any other occasion because I can't stand having classic and new frames in the same deck, so what do I know.)
SigmasonicX
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In non eye searing news, random common.
Miasma Mummy - 1B
Creature -- Jackal Zombie
When Miasma Mummy enters the battlefield, each player discards a card.
2/2
Miasma Mummy - 1B
Creature -- Jackal Zombie
When Miasma Mummy enters the battlefield, each player discards a card.
2/2
Infinite Stars
Member
In non eye searing news, random common.
Miasma Mummy - 1B
Creature -- Jackal Zombie
When Miasma Mummy enters the battlefield, each player discards a card.
2/2
Works surprisingly well with Madness and is tied to not bad Stats(for a common). I can dig it.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Look that's a mummy, you know it's dead not just because it's a Zombie.
Have you not met any legacy players? All they do is bling out their decks, including me lol. Got a bunch of foils and expedition lands going. I want dat Daze and FoW. Flusterstorm would be even better please. That card so needs a reprint.
Frankie Williamson
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Foiled out and masterpieced out nonsense.
"Hey man, I got this today!"
Why?
"For my Commander deck, it was only 120 bucks."
Maybe because I like variety and am constantly building new ones and breaking down old Commander decks that I don't understand the need to spend so much dumb money on a single deck.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Same. I do like some bling though occasionally.
Someone on reddit pointed out Maelstrom Pulse and Vindicate are copy pastaing part of the art.
Someone on reddit pointed out Maelstrom Pulse and Vindicate are copy pastaing part of the art.
The black god is identical in both of them.
Remembrance
Member
Clearly it's a cycle of enemy-pair removal, all connected by copied-pasted gods in the art.
Look for Lightning Helix, Fire/Ice, and... Temporal Spring Invocations rounding out the cycle.
(I just wanted to make someone imagine a split card Invocation)
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
the lesson to take from this, is to always stand to the right of gods.
"God's Beard!"
Member
Why try when you're not gonna beat the best Vindicate art of all time anyway?
Also, I'm in the minority that loves the Invocation border. It reminds me of that Mew card I got for seeing the 1st Pokemon movie in theatres.
I sent much more tame, to the point versions of my rants here, fwiw. I've generally loved most of the frame changes they've made throughout the years and I've definitely enjoyed both masterpiece series from before, even if I think they had better expedition options than they took. This is hands down the ugliest design I've ever seen them make, so I hope they don't handwave this away as just the internet being negative.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";232966403]Why try when you're not gonna beat the best Vindicate art of all time anyway?
Also, I'm in the minority that loves the Invocation border. It reminds me of that Mew card I got for seeing the 1st Pokemon movie in theatres.[/QUOTE]
This isn't Vindicate. It's Virbicate.
Also, I'm in the minority that loves the Invocation border. It reminds me of that Mew card I got for seeing the 1st Pokemon movie in theatres.[/QUOTE]
This isn't Vindicate. It's Virbicate.
A Serious Man
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Driving by to cry/laugh at these Invocations. Fucking christ.
*wake up*
Been busy with work so I haven't been able to check out the spoilers. Time to check the thread on GAF.
*Click*
What the fuck. These are terrible. And they wasted Mind Twist on this? Fucking hell.
Been busy with work so I haven't been able to check out the spoilers. Time to check the thread on GAF.
*Click*
What the fuck. These are terrible. And they wasted Mind Twist on this? Fucking hell.
I still can't get over how bad the Invocations are. The actual art of the card is given less space than on standard cards...why? Who wants that?
I can get past not being able to (easily) read the card name and type. We have full art cards, so a precedent exists for that kind of thing.
I can (almost...maybe?) get past the ALL CAPS centered rules text. It's ugly, harder to read, but it's included...so thats a plus.
I can get past the mana costs not being colored.
I can almost get past the power/toughness being stacked. It doesnt make any sense why you'd do that...but sure, give it a try!
I even like the Bolas horns around the holographic stamp on the bottom.
But I can not understand why a "premium" card would have less space given to the actual art...As someone mentioned a few pages back (or maybe just on Reddit), the real victims here are the artists.
Edit: One of the other aspects that drives me nuts is that the art window is narrower that the rules text box. These cards are so ugly.
I can get past not being able to (easily) read the card name and type. We have full art cards, so a precedent exists for that kind of thing.
I can (almost...maybe?) get past the ALL CAPS centered rules text. It's ugly, harder to read, but it's included...so thats a plus.
I can get past the mana costs not being colored.
I can almost get past the power/toughness being stacked. It doesnt make any sense why you'd do that...but sure, give it a try!
I even like the Bolas horns around the holographic stamp on the bottom.
But I can not understand why a "premium" card would have less space given to the actual art...As someone mentioned a few pages back (or maybe just on Reddit), the real victims here are the artists.
Edit: One of the other aspects that drives me nuts is that the art window is narrower that the rules text box. These cards are so ugly.
Joe Molotov
Member
This is like Future Sight from hell.
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