archnemesis
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Those statues should go well with clues.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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Imperfected
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Pretty nice with a lot of stuff, really. Ornithopters. Paradoxical Outcome + Aetherflux Reservoir storm setups.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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divisionbyzorro
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Taking a lurking break:
1) Wasn't the last time we saw Orthnithopter back in M15 - the set with Convoke? Seems like Wizards likes putting in trap cards sometimes.
2) The "Statue of Inspiration" or whatever its English title is is a really clever card.
3) However, most of what I'm seeing out of this set really isn't all that interesting. Am I just being a grumpy old man?
1) Wasn't the last time we saw Orthnithopter back in M15 - the set with Convoke? Seems like Wizards likes putting in trap cards sometimes.
2) The "Statue of Inspiration" or whatever its English title is is a really clever card.
3) However, most of what I'm seeing out of this set really isn't all that interesting. Am I just being a grumpy old man?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Lol fatal push is preordering for real money already.
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Transhuman
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It's almost better than Sylvan Catarid.
Simply Sarah
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I am and have been basically 100% certain Amonkhet is -1/-1 counters. The are too many things like this lately and it fits in extremely well with the popular view of Egyptian history and mythology having curses, plagues, and death related stuff.
SigmasonicX
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With the lizard, I thought it didn't seem too mythicy until I saw you get E for each creature you control.
With Industrial Tower, I was surprised to see that the only similar card with both C and mana of any color abilities is Corrupted Crossroads.
I guess that's why that doesn't add mana for colorless spells in general.
charlequin
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It also kind of suggests one reason they might've skipped proliferate for Kaladesh, since it'd make the -1/-1 theme play more similarly to SOM.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Simply Sarah
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Rishkar's Expertise has the potential to be quite good. In green it will generally be, at worst, sorcery speed Opportunity with a lot of upside. I'm wondering if Green Artifacts will be a thing with all the stuff we've seen so far.
A strong effect but also very expensive and hard to really abuse in Standard. I'm not sold on it at all.
The Technomancer
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I really like this
Joe Molotov
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T5: Verdurous Gearhulk
T6: Draw 8 cards, cast another Verdurous Gearhulk
T6: Draw 8 cards, cast another Verdurous Gearhulk
Simply Sarah
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Just to follow up by Green Artifacts idea imagine this:
Turn 1 Animation Module -> Turn 2 Metallic Mimic -> Turn 3 Rishkar putting a counter on both creatures and tapping Mimic to create a 2/2. So a 3/3, 3/2, and 2/2 that all tap for G on Turn 3 and unless stopped you can make at least 3 more 2/2s or even cast Rishkar's Expertise for 3 cards. Is this sort of thing good or consistent enough to be a thing? I dunno, but it certainly is worth taking a look at.
That looks pretty dang solid.
Turn 1 Animation Module -> Turn 2 Metallic Mimic -> Turn 3 Rishkar putting a counter on both creatures and tapping Mimic to create a 2/2. So a 3/3, 3/2, and 2/2 that all tap for G on Turn 3 and unless stopped you can make at least 3 more 2/2s or even cast Rishkar's Expertise for 3 cards. Is this sort of thing good or consistent enough to be a thing? I dunno, but it certainly is worth taking a look at.
That looks pretty dang solid.
charlequin
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"The first bad Bob that might actually be good" seems like an extremely apt description there, heh.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'm looking at rishkar's expertise and
Turn 5 Metallurgic Summonings
Turn 6 Rishkar's Expertise get a 6/6 draw 6 cast a <6 spell get a 5/5 or less.
It's a 6 mana sorcery though which makes it awkward in control and aggro match ups.
Turn 5 Metallurgic Summonings
Turn 6 Rishkar's Expertise get a 6/6 draw 6 cast a <6 spell get a 5/5 or less.
It's a 6 mana sorcery though which makes it awkward in control and aggro match ups.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Dream come true for my 4c deck with a bit of delirium.
CommandThrower
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Would this work with artifact tokens like Clues?
Simply Sarah
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Yes. And it doesn't even care if it's the name of enchanted artifact.
Just for fun, Mechanized Production on Ugin's Nexus with Teferi's Realm in play lets you have infinite turns.
charlequin
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From the preview article: "Hopefully before you even started reading this paragraph, your gears were already turning with all the ways you could use Mechanized Production, so I won't bother serving up any obvious clues for you." Hyuk.
keeblerdrow
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I would just put Mechanized Production on a woodweaver's puzzleknot. A nice value target till you get 8 of them.
Joe Molotov
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Or Prophetic Prism to draw you an extra card every turn.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Free sac outlet, zulaport cutthroat still legal and that fabricate guy as well.
Especially with things like Displacer+Thraben Inspector, Declaration in Stone and/or Tireless Tracker.
This might be interesting in Modern/Legacy/Vintage, but the fact that you can never cheat the UU might kill those ambitions. I'll be happy to hear Steven and Kevin talk about it for half an hour before deciding it's not actually playable though on So Many Insane Plays
Free sac outlet, zulaport cutthroat still legal and that fabricate guy as well.
Doesn't even survive her own expertise to get max value from the +1/1 counters.
charlequin
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This might be interesting in Modern/Legacy/Vintage, but the fact that you can never cheat the UU might kill those ambitions. I'll be happy to hear Steven and Kevin talk about it for half an hour before deciding it's not actually playable though on So Many Insane Plays
during which Steven will forget how Improvise works three times
I can't imagine ever wanting this over Thoughtcast in older formats. I think it does have the potential to make a splash in Standard though.This might be interesting in Modern/Legacy/Vintage, but the fact that you can never cheat the UU might kill those ambitions. I'll be happy to hear Steven and Kevin talk about it for half an hour before deciding it's not actually playable though on So Many Insane Plays
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Well she's cast off the expertise after the -3/-3 applies.
"God's Beard!"
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Lots of monster cards revealed today. I don't know how to start processing it all. The counters elf, glimmervoid variant and the new copy artifact + progenitor mimic thing are all super interesting.
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T: Add ◊ to your mana pool.
T, pay 1 life: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. Activate this ability only when you control an artifact.
This pretty easily replaces Glimmervoid in Affinity. The occasional life cost is worth more keepable hands.
Simply Sarah
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We'll need to see. I'm not certain it's an easily replacement. The life cost certainly matters in Modern.
ThLunarian
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That "Destroy X artifacts and make X goblins" card is crazy good. It's a scalable viridian shaman at no extra cost. That's getting played all over the place.
Angry Grimace
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It's Thoughtcast but worse.This might be interesting in Modern/Legacy/Vintage, but the fact that you can never cheat the UU might kill those ambitions. I'll be happy to hear Steven and Kevin talk about it for half an hour before deciding it's not actually playable though on So Many Insane Plays
Improvise is bad because artifacts you run are mostly mana rocks anyway. If not, you're talking about affinity which is a deck only in modern and then you can have like thoughtcast.
The improvise mana rock is also bad because it want you to run artifacts for it to work, but it can give mana only for non-artifacts. There aren't many artifacts that are reliably played outside of mana rocks in eternal formats, SDT may be one and then you're open to artifact removal.
The improvise mana rock is also bad because it want you to run artifacts for it to work, but it can give mana only for non-artifacts. There aren't many artifacts that are reliably played outside of mana rocks in eternal formats, SDT may be one and then you're open to artifact removal.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Agree, people are gushing over it in EDH but artifacts are as you said already manarocks for the most part or in the case if the statue the decks run such a density of artifacts that the nonartifact clause makes it kind of pointless.
In standard though I could combine it with Summonings to cheapen my spells make tokens that can cheapen further spells and go off like that.
Simply Sarah
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Y'all realize Standard still has clues, right?
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Speaking of
Curving copter into this.
Neither of us was talking particularly about standard though, except my pet deck.
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