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I like the shift in opinion from "bulk red mythic" to "wait a second..." over the course of the past few hours
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Can you exert him more than once per turn? I would figure simply untapping it doesn't mean it's not exerted. Unless I'm misunderstanding how the interaction works, it doesn't go infinite. I suppose it helps you get two combats a turn, which is still good.
No, you'd need some kind of "refresh" effect like restoration angel, at which point you're better off doing kiki combo.
I think the biggest thing about it is that if he survives until the attack step on your next turn, you've got an extra combat phase. He's shock bait on the highest scale.
You can go
Turn 1 Toolcraft Exemplar
Turn 2 Heart of Kiran
Turn 3 Swing with Heart, Combat Celebrant (4 damage)
Turn 4 Crew Heart, Swing with Combat Celebrant, exert (8 damage)
Second Combat Phase, swing with Toolcraft Exemplar (now a 5/3) and Heart of Kiran again (9 more damage)
That's lethal.
Granted you can't assume you can magical christmas land it, but it could be surprising and takes heat off of Heart.
Those are rares? Seriously?
I guess it goes into Kiki-Jiki EDH.
It's worse than every other combo piece, so...
I guess it goes into Kiki-Jiki EDH.
SigmasonicX
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Insult to Injury seems really good, even if just for Injury from the graveyard. And 4RR for "deal 4 damage to target creature and its controller" as an option by itself seems fine.
It's three mana and it doesn't do anything on its own unless you have six mana which by then it deals 4 damage!
WOW WOW WOW
Rags to Riches is insane in EDH
Insult to Injury is FUCKING CRAZY, it's 6 mana for 4 damage to creature and player, PLUS you get DOUBLE damage for the turn AND damage is guaranteed. Card is GOOD.
Cut to Ribbons is an amazing spell as well, 2 mana for flame slash I guess is a fine rate with an Aftermath spell attached. The Aftermath spell is kinda meh.
Well it's a kind of better roast really.
Rags to Riches is insane in EDH
Insult to Injury is FUCKING CRAZY, it's 6 mana for 4 damage to creature and player, PLUS you get DOUBLE damage for the turn AND damage is guaranteed. Card is GOOD.
Cut to Ribbons is an amazing spell as well, 2 mana for flame slash I guess is a fine rate with an Aftermath spell attached. The Aftermath spell is kinda meh.
Well it's a kind of better roast really.
yeah, obviously only would be good if you had like 5 mana and two lightning bolts or something dumb
Joe Molotov
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Cut to Ribbons seems good.
I feel like if you're going to bump Flame Slash up a mana and rarity, you should at least let it be instant.
Whoa, Insult to Injury and Cut to Ribbons are pretty legit cards. Insult can get you a nice chunk of damage from an attack or a Shock early in the game, then act as a solid Flashback removal spell, or for six mana deal 8 damage and give all your creatures double strike. Wow.
Cut is playable by itself, and RIbbons helps to give RB decks inevitability.
Cut is playable by itself, and RIbbons helps to give RB decks inevitability.
SigmasonicX
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The first is creature stealing, which is now always rare, especially a version that can steal multiple creatures in multi-player. Rags clears out small creatures so the opponent has to give you a decent one.
Damage prevention and doubling is rare.
X spells from the graveyard are very powerful, especially since Cut is useful early on. This is probably the most powerful of the lot in Limited.
It's still worse than a Fireball because of the double colour cost.
Imperfected
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The implicit "To" on the Aftermath cards isn't really working for me. I'm most likely only casting one-half of the card on any given phase, so I'm only really going to be reading half of the card's name at any given time, omitting the "To" in every case.
Minor design quibble. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Gideon freakout and people being surprised that things go infinite with Kiki-Jiki, somehow.
Minor design quibble. We now return you to your regularly scheduled Gideon freakout and people being surprised that things go infinite with Kiki-Jiki, somehow.
Neat!
Winding Constrictor likes this?
SigmasonicX
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Oh nice, on the turn you cast this, you can cast a 0 cost spell for 0!Neat!
This seems pretty cool.Neat!
It being once each turn, so you can play something and then cast a counter for free on the opponent's turn is cool.
Neat!
It being once each turn, so you can play something and then cast a counter for free on the opponent's turn is cool.
Well the split card cmc change is no fun now.
Imperfected
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Going right into my Atraxa EDH deck, that's for sure.
"God's Beard!"
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I know that Gideon distracted everybody, but this is a pretty good card:
Very Chainer's Edict-esque, hopefully they print more Cartouches next set
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Very Chainer's Edict-esque, hopefully they print more Cartouches next set
for bogles
SigmasonicX
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Even without it, I think the wording prevents shenanigans anyway. You have to be casting a particular spell first, so it's already on the stack.
Yeah, you're right.
Infinite Stars
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Nope, Vial was a may, this is a must.
Also casts the spell vs putting creature into play.
Granted, this is anything vs vial's Just creatures, and I feel it's a bit too slow to be compared
Irrelevant, since this is X or less.
Still, this only lets you cast spells for free when you already could, so no instant creatures or anything like that.
Such as Ancestral Vision?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It doesn't work like that anyways
Since you can't cast that from your hand you wouldn't be able to replace paying the cost with this card's effect.
I see. That would be busted
Yes, I know. I already aknowledged that, I misread it at first.
This replaces the cost with zero, but you need to be able to cast the spell first. So, unless they change some rules that wouldn't work.
Did anyone listen to Frank Lepore and Ali Antrazis podcast Freshly brewed ? Basically how they feel is how i feel right now. Every new spoiler card has to get compared to Mardu Vehicles or copy cat, so every card that we see falls into the camp of "can this beat copy cat and mardu ? No then its unplayable"
Listen 4 mana 5/4s, and 3 mana enchantments mean nothing right now, and the current standard format ruins almost every card.
4 mana 5/4 haste ? Does nothing to saheeli combo, and when mardu is hitting you for 7 or 10 on turn 3 there is no room to be casting 3 mana do nothing cards.
Its depreasing really, makes the theros days of mono b vs mono u feel diverse
Listen 4 mana 5/4s, and 3 mana enchantments mean nothing right now, and the current standard format ruins almost every card.
4 mana 5/4 haste ? Does nothing to saheeli combo, and when mardu is hitting you for 7 or 10 on turn 3 there is no room to be casting 3 mana do nothing cards.
Its depreasing really, makes the theros days of mono b vs mono u feel diverse
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Skyship Plunderer in the same color I suppose.
I dunno, Scarab Feast destroys Scrapheap Scroungers in the GY.
Copycat is disruptable.
Edit: GB yeah Trial of Ambition is some good.
"God's Beard!"
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Under the assumption that no more amazing 1-mana Auras are gonna get spoiled, here's what my Modern Bogles deck is gonna look like:
12 Creature
15 Sideboard
12 Creature
- 4 Gladecover Scout
- 4 Slippery Bogle
- 4 Invisible Stalker
- 4 Ethereal Armor
- 4 Rancor
- 4 Consuming Fervor
- 3 Deviant Glee
- 3 Spider Umbra
- 3 Cartouche of Solidarity
- 1 Flamespeaker's Will
- 4 Daybreak Coronet
- 3 Path to Exile
- 1 Boros Charm
- 3 Horizon Canopy
- 4 City of Brass
- 4 Gemstone Mine
- 4 Mana Confluence
- 3 Reflecting Pool
15 Sideboard
- 1 Path to Exile
- 1 Grafdigger's Cage
- 2 Rest in Peace
- 1 Stony Silence
- 1 Natural State
- 1 Seal of Primordium
- 4 Leyline of Sanctity
- 4 Inquisition of Kozilek
Dack fayden/ugin not being in your top 5 is something.... GR Tron got a huge shot in the arm with the printing of ugin and vintage is Fayden's world.
Ancestral Visions lol
Jace VP was good in standard. He isn't good in modern and is fringe in legacy. He does not deserve to be higher than tron planeswalkers. Do you not remember when Ugin ran shop over standard? Or when Elspeth Sun's Champion (also way better than Jace VP) ran shop over standard? Ugin still dominates in modern and elspeth still sees play in tier 2 decks in modern. Jace VP has no consistent success in modern/eternal formats.
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