I guess it kills Indestructible creatures? Not sure what else is relevant.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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Melira + Anger of the Gods?
EDIT: Nevermind, doesn't affect your creatures, so Melira's unnecessary.
The bounce is may. You don't have to return a land to your hand. It works really good for control with the cycling lands, since you can play them early and then cycle late when you already have enough lands. Also can help you reach 7 cards before attacks and replay a land if you don't have any others.
It makes your burn spells do something of consequence to big creatures.
This only affects opponents' creatures.
Yeah if you want to stack burn spells over multiple turns. Otherwise the creature would still die to burn.
theorycrafting on the fly
Because he's Ashodin.
And we have to take him for who he is. Because pointing things like this out to him doesn't change him lol
That's fine if you need to do it. And it lets you use burn during combat to turn trades into wins.
SigmasonicX
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? I don't follow.
Anyway, I expect its playability mainly depends on if there are much better one-drops than a 1/2 prowess, regardless of the wither ability.
That's right I'm me and you are you so let's all be dudes hey
divisionbyzorro
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This is the key. Your burn spells reduce power, not just "damage." You can't brickwall small creatures with fatter creatures now.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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I'm specifically down on esper. Not any combinations of its colours. I'd argue Unlicensed Disintegration is stronger than Fatal Push in standard. It's easier to cast in a triple colour deck than murder as well. UW was not a control deck when it ruled the world.
wedges are advantaged by the lands available alone and among the shard I feel like if CopyCat sticks around you'd rather be grixis than esper.
oh I was comparing it to Swiftspear.
It turns later combat into tricky situations for opponents. It also makes a great board wipe for four mana with Radiant Flames, making the stuff left over stay at -3/-3.
This is a nice card. Still warming up to this set, but I am getting closer to the tipping point for sure.
A Lightning strike and a 2/2 still trades with a 5/5. Also it would have to be an instant and there aren't a lot of instant burn that also go to the dome at the moment.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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won't stop you from losing because you're throwing burn at a creature to not even kill it instead of face.
I suppose. But it can give you time instead of taking 4/5 or 5/6 to the face. Searing Blaze don't care
I suppose this is a fair point, since 2/2s, 5/5s and Lightning Strikes are the only cards in Magic.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It's not just buying time you're giving your opponent time as well. It is good with Searing Blaze tho.
Joe Molotov
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SigmasonicX
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Since this is getting no attention, this seems alright in Limited with embalm creatures.There's also this one:
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Favor won't trigger Stockpile because of the if clause though, won't it?
eh? Why wouldn't you be giving the token +2/+0 and haste though?
When you give the creature the buff it gets a clause "At the beginning of your next end step, sacrifice CARDNAME." You stack it with the Stockpile to sacrifice it first, then get a 1/1 back.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Token still has to die before the end step. Or at least I don't think Stockpile triggers w/o activating revolt before the end step.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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There it is
Ifs are a bitch in MTG.
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Yo I like this
Ah yep I was right then. Still, paying 1 mana to scry 1 and get another 3/1 next turn is a pretty damn good rate
Familienoberhauptvogel
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You have much better things to in mardu than play a super slow combination of enchantments.
Believe me, I tried Hidden Stockpile, it's so very slow.
Simply Sarah
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Ashodin, dude, if you're buying time and/or durdling around as red-based burn/aggro then you've already lost.
So you say, but sometimes durdling happens in burn.
I think there really needs to be a strong case for it, but if there's a powerful exert green / blue card she'll get way better.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Reasonably costed burn?
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Alright, Amonkhet. I'm on board.
Also, this doesn't replace Swiftspear in Modern Lava Spike/Skullcrack/Boros Charm decks because they're, well, Lava Spike/Skullcrack/Boros Charm decks. Having said that, this is easily a top 5 red one-drop, possibly better than Lavaman.
kirblar's right - any spell that can come back (flashback) makes prowess way better.
Alright, Amonkhet. I'm on board.
Also, this doesn't replace Swiftspear in Modern Lava Spike/Skullcrack/Boros Charm decks because they're, well, Lava Spike/Skullcrack/Boros Charm decks. Having said that, this is easily a top 5 red one-drop, possibly better than Lavaman.
No but a R/U Prowess deck is looking better a better in Modern.
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