Familienoberhauptvogel
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I wasn't too down on it before but recent spoilers also haven't changed that state of meh. The art direction is still garbo so I don't expect that to change.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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To be fair the last few sets have had Wizards start off spoilers by showing off a flashy card (shadows was Avacyn, Eldrich Moon was Emrakul and Kaldesh was Smuggler's Copter) We didn't see that this time around.
It's looking better but the first three days were pretty terrible.
Infinite Stars
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Liliana looks good. The issue is again, the current format isn't helpful for evaluating these cards because you'd be dead before you cast them.
It's like showing off a standard set without any of the flashy cards is a bad idea or something.
What is up with that blue/white split card that was just posted...
You return the spell to their hand... then try and abeyance it and they just play it again in response?
So IF they don't have enough mana to cast it again, you can make sure they can't play it on their turn... and then they can just play it again on your next turn?
Seems awful unless I'm missing something.
You return the spell to their hand... then try and abeyance it and they just play it again in response?
So IF they don't have enough mana to cast it again, you can make sure they can't play it on their turn... and then they can just play it again on your next turn?
Seems awful unless I'm missing something.
It stalls a spellfortwo turns guaranteed so they can't cast it (or other spells like it) for two turns. It has potential.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
That only applies to instants though. It bricks any type of permanent and sorceries.
Two turns against sorcery speed stuff only. Bleh.
Question - On your turn, if you play a creature, and I failure it, you would still have first priority to replay it, before I could cast the white half of failure, right?
In this Standard specifically, against the Saheeli Combo, it slows them down quite a bit.
And yeah, it makes Reflector Mage being an Uncommon hilarious.
So you Turn 2 fail their spell. Turn 3 you comply and call out the same spell (or if you have a discard spell you call out a different spell) while holding mana for removal/other stuff. Then your opponent can't cast the spell again. You follow that up with holding mana for spell queller. That's the idea at least. That sounds decent.
White part is sorcery.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
The circumstances that made ref mage such a menace are quite peculiar. It could have been fine if it weren't for coco and vehicles.
esper sucks.
At the same time it protects the saheeli combo
Gotcha, I see where you guys are coming from.
I tend to view things through a limited lens, I guess because that is 95% of the Magic I play.
I am dumb. Thank you.
I tend to view things through a limited lens, I guess because that is 95% of the Magic I play.
I am dumb. Thank you.
Yeah, it's not a card for limited.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
of course, even if it doesn't completely translate.
I've felt for some time that Unsubstantiate is less used than it should be but I've also not found room for it myself.
I'm still not hot on the set, but I am warming. Aside from the cycling lands and +/-7 other cards I am still not feeling it. Take that heaping bit of salt as I am coming at these cards as a commander player, and have no context for how the spoilers look for limited or standard. Even worse, I'm mostly just looking at them for decks I either already have or plan on making in the near future.
So, pay no mind to my general dissatisfaction as I am not the target audience!
This is really good! The tokens have deathtouch!
She's gonna be nutty in limited with the right cards. The first ability might as well be blank (I mean, let's be honest, the only way she's getting in is if they don't have any creatures), but pumping out Typhoid Rats is gonna clog up the board so much.
This + Nest of Scarabs + Any of those green creatures that come with their own -1/-1 counters = fun times.
Slap a blue cartouche on it and go nuts.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I changed my mind on the Blue God. I thing its pretty good actually.
Both gods spoiled so far are way better than most people are giving them credit for. The blue one being a mana sink is exactly what control decks want.
Simply Sarah
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I agree it's good but what led you to come around?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Did people actually call them bad? Imo they are just tremendously boring.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You can legit make a deck of all tokens and Sky Skiffs
It's really good. It's better than Hazoret in the sense that it dodges Grasp, and it gets you late game value.
Why did it change? Still not sure what to think of it. It's opposite of what you want to do as control if it means bouncing your land. Every land drop is so important. It's hard in a midrange deck because you want to play cards. Will be interesting to see where thos card ends up.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It'll be something lame like
On second thought that's too close to the mythic but I hope they keep the name.Fake said:
Judging by the two we've seen, the viziers are heavily tied to whatever the color combo's theme is.
For RW I'm imagining:
"Whenever you exert a creature, it gains +2/+0 until end of turn"
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Some effect when you exert the vizier itself.
charlequin
Banned
Yeah I had thought I had a "recently" in there. Obviously Dark Realms is bullshit.
They have absolutely done a bad job with the spoiler season rollout this time around, IMO.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
What I'd actually like to say is this
That's the kind of Aggro commander that could actually make Boros work in commander.
on a stick
That's the kind of Aggro commander that could actually make Boros work in commander.
I agree. I'm not proclaiming it to be playable but it very well might be since it has some nice cards that it curves into.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Because it's ability is powerful in a vacuum, especially with lands that can also be cycled. The body can also break stalemates if and when you get it online. If you're returning a basic or other untapped land you can use it to reduce the mana cost on the draw ability.
There's also the fact that it can crew almost any creature. It's way better when you think about the possibilities than it would otherwise seem.
Literally the only thing that makes it bad is that it doesn't necessarily affect the board when it comes down. But it's a constructed card so it's not as big of a problem.
charlequin
Banned
shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
holy assbutts
We haven't even seen the new set yet yet "esper sucks." Esper just got a new sphinx, UB has placed top 8 pro tours last year when it was tuned to the meta, It has one of the best removal spells ever printed, UW ruled the world not too long ago pre bannings, etc. Esper is looking up right now.
The biggest winner of this spoiler season so far has been Naya. Glorybriner/exert creatures plus Always watching/Arlinn Kord/Blessed Alliance. Add in generic good stuff cards like Avacyn/Gideon ally/removal/heart of kiran and this looks interesting.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
There must be a rule internally about constructed plant 1 drop 1/2's having Steve Argyle art.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I don't think so. If you're throwing burn at creatures to make them smaller you're already losing. You're also losing if your topdeck goes from 1 to 2 damage to 0. At best this would replace Grim Lavamancer.
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