Familienoberhauptvogel
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of course. I deleted 2 sentences of snark before posting. I'm a downer today.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT11| Amonkhet - Have you ever had decks with a Pharaoh?
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of course. I deleted 2 sentences of snark before posting. I'm a downer today.
shieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
Survives your own Kozilek's Return, and against Constrictor, this is the lulz.
R/U is looking good for this set in general.
With Soul-Scar Mage + Skyship Plunderer, you can keep the -1/-1 counters coming.
yeah it totally gets around Kozilek's Return lmao
With Soul-Scar Mage + Skyship Plunderer, you can keep the -1/-1 counters coming.
yeah it totally gets around Kozilek's Return lmao
I've noticed you being a little more debbie today
I'm chalking it up to you still not being onboard the set.
Eh, you don't really need Stormchaser Mage, right? He's OK, but 12 one drops and 28-30 spells sounds way nicer.
Magma spray? Fuck yeah it is.
Soul-Scar Mage! He turns any burn into a kill Finks forever spell.
Yeah, probably.
No, I mean the one-drop dude:
Persist (When this creature dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
Shooting down the Finks with it out doesn't trigger persist.
In standard probably. I may revisit RU Fever Vision again!
You're basically trading a point of damage for that effect. It's like playing Stigma Lasher over Eidolon of the Great Revel. Damage is king.
Keru_Shiri
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Are you sure? I could be wrong, but the mage's ability is a replacement effect. The Finks would die next time state-based actions are check and would die with -1/-1 counters on it, shutting down Persist.
EDIT: Misread, my bad, carry on.
That's what he said.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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that's his point. Persist doesn't trigger = gone for good.
I wish. Wither was sick.
Keru_Shiri
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The fact we haven't seen the Black, White, or Green gods leads me to believe they're stupid good.
Excuse me, Oketra, Rhonas, and Bontu.
Thinking of upgrades to my deck... and there's not much that fit into what I'm doing currently. I'd have to rebuild it from the ground up in a different style, I think.
Excuse me, Oketra, Rhonas, and Bontu.
Thinking of upgrades to my deck... and there's not much that fit into what I'm doing currently. I'd have to rebuild it from the ground up in a different style, I think.
charlequin
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Yeah I got the sense people ran out to comment on this without taking this aspect into account, lol.
Correct again.
keeblerdrow
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So I realized that I had traded away all my Dynavolt Towers after seeing this Soul-Scar Mage. Rectified that with $3 just now.
divisionbyzorro
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You can attack this into a Gurmag Angler and beat it in combat if you have a Lightning Bolt. That's nuts.
Yeah I really like that with Soul-Scar.
This card is definitely going to get used in Modern for sure.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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but you'll have to attack at least 2 more times to make up the damage lost and it opens you up to be blown out by removal.
So what do people actually do when the opponent has a threat out? "Oh no don't waste your removal on that game winning creature, it'll set you back a card and mana and makes you vulnerable for more."
cooltrainer
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Some cool red cards in this set. This pleases me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Burn does play path but generally start topdecking burn. The scenario where you have to make that kind of play can come up but I don't think it's worth the card slot because of it. At best you could replace a Lavamancer if that's still being played.
Gurmag angler also seems like a bad example given the kind of cards decks playing it have access to.
divisionbyzorro
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A 3 damage burn spell lets it beat a 5/5 in combat. I just picked a 3 damage spell and a 5/5 - you're getting way too hung up in specifics. The card is very powerful - obviously what kind of impact it makes remains to be seen.
It's fucking crazy good with Searing Blaze.
charlequin
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What damage lost? You spent 3 damage off a burn spell in hand to get here but in the counterfactual you don't have damage on the board, you have a useless guy who gets eaten by a fish.
Again WE HAVENT SEEN THE ENTIRE SET YET. So bashing on a deck archetype literally makes no sense when there are power cards in the shard.
Goblin Guide/Monastery Swiftspear will have already done its job by then. If you can't finish it off with burn then play more burn? Haste is pretty undervalued by you lot. It's a worse topdeck than burn but it's still better than non-haste dudes.
No one is arguing that is is better than Guide or Swiftspear in burn. Just this is a very good card that will find a home in some aggressive deck.
Big Icarus
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Soul-Scar Mage is by far the best card I've seen from the set so far. Well, it's easily my favorite at least.
I'm still not quite sold on the sets constructed impact yet, but I might be coming around. Limited is looking like it might not quite be White>>>>>>All the other colors as much as I had feared. Sealed looks like it might just be that though.
I also feel that people are underestimating the Red God a little. It's possibly a very good aggressive finisher. New Gideon is absolutely obnoxious, but at least a little more interesting mechanically than AoZ. Lilli is okay. She's a decent walker for standard I guess. We're due for another efficiently costed Nissa now in this set, so I'm interested in what she'll do.
If we see a Hero's Downfall reprint I might change my tune on disliking this set. Maybe a very pushed Aftermath card might have the effect on one of it's sides.
I'm still not quite sold on the sets constructed impact yet, but I might be coming around. Limited is looking like it might not quite be White>>>>>>All the other colors as much as I had feared. Sealed looks like it might just be that though.
I also feel that people are underestimating the Red God a little. It's possibly a very good aggressive finisher. New Gideon is absolutely obnoxious, but at least a little more interesting mechanically than AoZ. Lilli is okay. She's a decent walker for standard I guess. We're due for another efficiently costed Nissa now in this set, so I'm interested in what she'll do.
If we see a Hero's Downfall reprint I might change my tune on disliking this set. Maybe a very pushed Aftermath card might have the effect on one of it's sides.
So, Magic GAF. A long while ago I saw this thread on MTGSalvation about a pretty cool idea of five 108 card cubes each themed over a shard that could be combined into a 540 card cube. Each minicube would have three guilds with a theme and the same guild would have a different theme when in another guild (so, for instance, Dimir in Grixis would be graveyard control, and in Esper would be artifact midrange).
I was excited by the idea and the moment I read it I felt like trying to design those cubes. However, it was nightmarish to find nice themes that could be decently supported, plus Tarkir is way better than Alara anyway and I wanted to make Tarkir cubes too, so it would get even worse.
Skip to Modern Masters 2017. It came out and had sort of a shards theme and a very cube-ish feel like all Masters sets do, so I was reminded me of this project. Thinking of how they do Masters sets, especially downshifting cards in rarity to fit the themes, made me realise that breaking singleton would allow these cubes to actually support themes, which I found exceedingly hard on my first attempt unless you went for very generic themes which made the whole thing very bland.
Since I'm a cube structural freak, I came up with an idea to have rarities in each minicube. "Common" cards would show up in 3 copies each, "Uncommon" cards would have 2 copies each and "Rares" and "Mythics" would be a single copy each. I quote because a "common" card doesn't have to be an actual common card; for instance, Bant has an aura theme so I have donwshifted Kor Spiritwalker to common in order to push it. In fact, SEVERAL "common" and "uncommon" cards are actual rares!
Each shard and wedge (yes I went ahead and made TEN cubes, Tarkir rocks) would have:
Deviating a bit from the original idea, I'm designing these cubes to be played as sealed. In fact I'm calling them "bant sealed cube", "esper sealed cube" etc. You could mix them together and draft I suppose, and some inter-cube synergies do exist (like Grixis and Sultai both are very graveyard based, Jeskai has a minor vehicle theme that fits Esper's all out artifact insanity and so on) but that's not what I'm designing them for.
My current idea is having each player pick a minicube and create a sealed pool with 4 packs of 15 cards - a total of 60 cards out of 108, so each pool would have a bit more than half the cube's total amount of cards. I had to make the pools smaller to actually have variance, since a regular 90 card pool would have almost every single card in the cube.
Also, the minicubes don't have mana fixing in them, just business cards. I thought of each shard/wedge having a separate section of fixers that players would get a 5 random cards in a "lands booster pack" (so the total pool for each player would actually be 65 cards). I haven't given this much thought yet but my preliminary idea right now is having this section be composed of 3 Evolving Wilds, 2 of each guild gainland (from KTK/EMA), and 1 of each triland, shockland and fetchland (total of 16 cards). I don't want guaranteed premium fixing and automatic free splashing, but I'm not sure how to do it. Additionally, Evolving Wilds could be swapped in each shard for more fitting cards, such as one of each artifact land in Esper, or one of each Onslaught cycling land in Abzan (it has a small Loam theme, with Life from the Loam at "common", Knight of the Reliquary at "uncommon" etc). Certainly an area that deserves more thought that I've given.
(also, each minicube would have only basics from their own shard/wedge which is by far the COOLEST thing about this project IMO, I love choosing basics for cubes!!)
I've already "designed" most of the cubes but I'm looking for help in detecting oversights and heck, suggestions for card swaps and stuff. I'm aiming for a slightly lower power level, so no cards that completely warp the game around them like Jace TMS, Liliana, Jitte or Skullclamp, and no broken fast mana. Also, non-foil modern-frame only (idk maybe foils, but preferably non-foils).
Hmm this ended up longer than I thought it would. I'll be sharing my lists soon in case anyone wants to go over them. No idea when I'll be able to afford a 1080 cube + duals, so yeah... this is kind of a long term project. Pretty fun though
I was excited by the idea and the moment I read it I felt like trying to design those cubes. However, it was nightmarish to find nice themes that could be decently supported, plus Tarkir is way better than Alara anyway and I wanted to make Tarkir cubes too, so it would get even worse.
Skip to Modern Masters 2017. It came out and had sort of a shards theme and a very cube-ish feel like all Masters sets do, so I was reminded me of this project. Thinking of how they do Masters sets, especially downshifting cards in rarity to fit the themes, made me realise that breaking singleton would allow these cubes to actually support themes, which I found exceedingly hard on my first attempt unless you went for very generic themes which made the whole thing very bland.
Since I'm a cube structural freak, I came up with an idea to have rarities in each minicube. "Common" cards would show up in 3 copies each, "Uncommon" cards would have 2 copies each and "Rares" and "Mythics" would be a single copy each. I quote because a "common" card doesn't have to be an actual common card; for instance, Bant has an aura theme so I have donwshifted Kor Spiritwalker to common in order to push it. In fact, SEVERAL "common" and "uncommon" cards are actual rares!
Each shard and wedge (yes I went ahead and made TEN cubes, Tarkir rocks) would have:
- 20 commons (x3): 5 per colour, 1 per guild, 3 lands/artifacts/tricolour
- 17 uncommons (x2): 3 per colour, 2 per guild, 2 lands/artifacts/tricolour
- 11 rares (x1): 2 per colour, 1 per guild, 2 lands/artifacts/tricolour
- 3 mythic rares (x1): don't fit the colour distribution (these are basically three cards I want to add to the minicube outside of the structure)
Deviating a bit from the original idea, I'm designing these cubes to be played as sealed. In fact I'm calling them "bant sealed cube", "esper sealed cube" etc. You could mix them together and draft I suppose, and some inter-cube synergies do exist (like Grixis and Sultai both are very graveyard based, Jeskai has a minor vehicle theme that fits Esper's all out artifact insanity and so on) but that's not what I'm designing them for.
My current idea is having each player pick a minicube and create a sealed pool with 4 packs of 15 cards - a total of 60 cards out of 108, so each pool would have a bit more than half the cube's total amount of cards. I had to make the pools smaller to actually have variance, since a regular 90 card pool would have almost every single card in the cube.
Also, the minicubes don't have mana fixing in them, just business cards. I thought of each shard/wedge having a separate section of fixers that players would get a 5 random cards in a "lands booster pack" (so the total pool for each player would actually be 65 cards). I haven't given this much thought yet but my preliminary idea right now is having this section be composed of 3 Evolving Wilds, 2 of each guild gainland (from KTK/EMA), and 1 of each triland, shockland and fetchland (total of 16 cards). I don't want guaranteed premium fixing and automatic free splashing, but I'm not sure how to do it. Additionally, Evolving Wilds could be swapped in each shard for more fitting cards, such as one of each artifact land in Esper, or one of each Onslaught cycling land in Abzan (it has a small Loam theme, with Life from the Loam at "common", Knight of the Reliquary at "uncommon" etc). Certainly an area that deserves more thought that I've given.
(also, each minicube would have only basics from their own shard/wedge which is by far the COOLEST thing about this project IMO, I love choosing basics for cubes!!)
I've already "designed" most of the cubes but I'm looking for help in detecting oversights and heck, suggestions for card swaps and stuff. I'm aiming for a slightly lower power level, so no cards that completely warp the game around them like Jace TMS, Liliana, Jitte or Skullclamp, and no broken fast mana. Also, non-foil modern-frame only (idk maybe foils, but preferably non-foils).
Hmm this ended up longer than I thought it would. I'll be sharing my lists soon in case anyone wants to go over them. No idea when I'll be able to afford a 1080 cube + duals, so yeah... this is kind of a long term project. Pretty fun though
So I finally had the opportunity to draft my box this evening. Wish I hadn't.
Liliana, Tarmogoyf, Cavern, FOIL Scalding Tarn, regular Scalding Tarn
Granted most of the rest was chaff (no other fetchlands, no Path, 2 Fiery Justice as rares, ect), but that's about as perfect a Box as one could hope for
Liliana, Tarmogoyf, Cavern, FOIL Scalding Tarn, regular Scalding Tarn
Granted most of the rest was chaff (no other fetchlands, no Path, 2 Fiery Justice as rares, ect), but that's about as perfect a Box as one could hope for
this is definitely up my alley and i'm curious to see your lists. i made a pauper cube for grid drafting with a friend, and having sealed packs would be an interesting way to mix it up.
Infinite Stars
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So the new KMC sleeves are awful. Like, I don't know what they did to screw them up, but after seeing Tolarian Community College's recent video regrading them I decided to test my Sleeves I bought at GP Van 2016 vs 2017.
Supposedly the new ultra Pros are actually really good though.
Supposedly the new ultra Pros are actually really good though.
The ultra pro eclipse sleeves are pretty great. I got some last week to test them out. They shuffle really well, the colors are very vivid (at least the blue ones) and they don't even have the holo stamp thing any more.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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awful
Imperfected
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Maybe I can revive my extremely rude Curse of Misfortunes EDH deck. There's nothing quite so exciting as guaranteeing that both yourself and one other player will definitely lose in multiplayer.
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