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[TheBlackMarvel]

This is going to be annoying as shit.

Calling it now. Bolas will kill one or all of the Gatewatch and Oketra will res them after he's gone as a last act before she dies.

 

[red13th]

That's it for mothership previews today? Boring.

 

[FreedomFrisbee]

That's it for mothership previews today? Boring.

Well, they did also reveal the main set Bolas. But we already knew about that one.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Don't care at all for hours since the Ixalan leaks. Can't we just go there already?

 

[DrArchon]

Well, they did also reveal the main set Bolas. But we already knew about that one.

Yeah, if they hadn't fucked up an leaked him early we'd all be going crazy about him right now.

Aw, who am I kidding? Everyone would be still be writing him off for being too expensive.

 

[Repgnar]

Dunno why everyone is surprised with the randomness of the Invocations. They just said that they're going to be pulling it back because they can't keep the themed sets that initially was associated with em.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Dunno why everyone is surprised with the randomness of the Invocations. They just said that they're going to be pulling it back because they can't keep the themed sets that initially was associated with em.

they also sad they started with instants and sorceries but look at what we've got and say there's not about a dozen left out

 

[Angry Grimace]

The entire cycle of those don't untap sorceries are going to be completely unplayable jank because the restriction is fundamentally jank.

 

[Justin]

Look forward to the first time someone excitedly uses the white one in commander then spends the next two turns getting attacked by the three other players.

 

[Repgnar]

they also sad they started with instants and sorceries but look at what we've got and say there's not about a dozen left out

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/159008681048/what-is-the-theme-of-the-amonkhet-invocations

You talking about that? There's 4-5 left and some people are thinking the last 2 Gods will be taking two of those spots as well. Sounds like they wanted to initially do Instants/Sorceries but just weren't able to make it work and Maro acknowledged that.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

We know all of them as far as I am aware just don't have the cards yet for the missing 2 gods.

They didn't even put an earthquake variant or hurricane into the set for that matter.

 

[Santiako]

We know all of them except the two gods, yes.

 

[OnPoint]

DARKEST HOUR, PART 1

This is going to be annoying as shit.

How does this work with something like Rhox Faithmender?

 

[Repgnar]

You're right. The wiki page I was looking at didn't have all of them updated from WotC.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/article...eries-hour-devastation-invocations-2017-06-19

 

[DrArchon]

How does this work with something like Rhox Faithmender?

I'd assume it doesn't. It just says your life total becomes equal to your starting amount, not that you gain enough life to equal your starting amount.

Could be wrong though.

 

[ThLunarian]

How does this work with something like Rhox Faithmender?

When a spell or ability tells you to set your life total to an amount, you're actually gaining (or losing in some cases) the required amount of life. So for this, you figure out how much life you'd need to gain in order to get to your starting life total, then double that and gain that much life instead.

At least I think that's how it used to work. I'm only like 80% sure on this.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

IIRC any change in life totals is lifegain/loss for the difference it makes.

For instance stuff like Players can't gain life. Stops these kinds of effects if it's a lifegain.

 

[ultron87]

How does this work with something like Rhox Faithmender?

With current rules it'll double it, assuming your life total is increasing. Faithmender has a ruling specifically on this:

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=279987

7/1/2012 If an effect sets your life total to a specific number, and that number is higher than your current life total, the effect will cause you to gain life equal to the difference. Rhox Faithmender will then double that number. For example, if you have 3 life and an effect says that your life total ”becomes 10," your life total will actually become 17.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

How does this work with something like Rhox Faithmender?

I'm playing EDH with a Rhox Faithmender out. I have 5 life. I cast this thing.

40-5 = 35. I gain 2x35 = 70 life and go to 75 life.

 

[Santiako]

How does this work with something like Rhox Faithmender?

I'd assume it doesn't. It just says your life total becomes equal to your starting amount, not that you gain enough life to equal your starting amount.

Could be wrong though.

You gain twice as much.

Resolute Archangel has the same text and one of the rulings is

If your life total is less than your starting life total, you actually gain the appropriate amount of life. Other effects that interact with life gain will interact with Resolute Archangel’s ability accordingly.

 

[OnPoint]

Cool thanks y'all.

Card seems good late game in EDH since it's only 3 mana. Should be fun in my Ghost Dad deck.

 

[A Serious Man]

This is going to be annoying as shit.

I can't wait to see how bad the red card in this cycle is going to be.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Cool thanks y'all.

Card seems good late game in EDH since it's only 3 mana. Should be fun in my Ghost Dad deck.

if you don't plan on casting spells any other spells.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Cool thanks y'all.

Card seems good late game in EDH since it's only 3 mana. Should be fun in my Ghost Dad deck.

It'd be great in a Hokori deck, especially since that deck is going to pull aggro from turn 1.

 

[OnPoint]

if you don't plan on casting spells any other spells.

It's EDH. You likely have mana rocks to help supplement that. Maybe you wrath then cast this. There's a ton of possibilities where this is going to be good to play. I get the downside is great, but it's worth trying.

 

[DrArchon]

You gain twice as much.

Resolute Archangel has the same text and one of the rulings is

Well then, shows what I know.

 

[alternade]

I can't wait to see how bad the red card in this cycle is going to be.

1RR
Until your next turn creatures target player(opponents) contorl cannot attack or block. Lands you control don't untap.

 

[Santiako]

From today's article:

Hour of Devastation has fifteen lands with the Desert subtype

I guess that means no enemy cycle lands. This annoys me greatly.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Does Wotc hate Boros in EDH that much?

 

[Angry Grimace]

1RR
Until your next turn creatures target player(opponents) contorl cannot attack or block. Lands you control don't untap.

It's going to be a Wheel effect.

 

[alternade]

Does Wotc hate Boros in EDH that much?

It can't ramp, can't easily draw cards, doesn't have good responses to blue shenanigans, and is almost always combat/direct damage focused. I wish they would give me something other to do than swing because that rarely wins games in EDH, atleast in my group.

 

[Remembrance]

It's going to be a Wheel effect.

I'm going to say it's an extra combat phase.

Green will be putting some lands into play tapped. Blue will be... bounce?

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

It can't ramp, can't easily draw cards, doesn't have good responses to blue shenanigans, and is almost always combat/direct damage focused. I wish they would give me something other to do than swing because that rarely wins games in EDH, atleast in my group.

If you want to target blue. Red is the colour to do so. You can really fuck blue mages up with pyro and red elemental blast.

 

[Adaren]

DARKEST HOUR, PART 1

This is going to be annoying as shit.

I love this card just for the flavor / name / art and the fact that it's doing something interesting. Jury's out on playability, but I love it regardless.

 

[Zocano]

Feel like they could do this for the red one:

Hazoret's Last Fury
R
Hazoret's Last Fury deals 4 damage to target creature or player. Lands you control don't untap during your next untap step.

 

[OnPoint]

Feel like they could do this for the red one:

Automatic 4 of in any Burn deck. That's an INSANE turn 1 play.

 

[Ashodin]

That card is going to be like Reno from Hearthstone.

 

[El Topo]

Feel like they could do this for the red one:

That would be way too good. I love it.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

That card is going to be like Reno from Hearthstone.

except bad

 

[Tunoku]

Automatic 4 of in any Burn deck. That's an INSANE turn 1 play.

I don't like it as a turn one play. I'd rather go with a one-drop turn 1, then two mana spells, and finish them off with multiple one mana spells like spike and that hypothetical card. But yeah, that would be pretty nuts.

Spoiler

And is not happening.

 

[Zocano]

Obviously too playable an instant nowadays but I can dream.

It would totally be that but RR and sorcery speed or some shit.

 

[divisionbyzorro]

Automatic 4 of in any Burn deck. That's an INSANE turn 1 play.

It's an insane "last turn of the game" play.

They will not print any spell in this cycle that could result in the game ending on your turn. Guaranteed.

 

[Angry Grimace]

I find it amusing you can kill Nicol Bolas with Liliana's Defeat.

 

[Santiako]

Nice cheap limited bomb

 

[Infinite Stars]

Okay, so when are we getting our GW Cat Legend, Wizards? Because that looks hella sweet.

That card is going to be like Reno from Hearthstone.

We're gonna be rich!

"Cut to UW Control using it after a wrath to stabilize"

 

[red13th]

Okay, so when are we getting our GW Cat Legend, Wizards? Because that looks hella sweet.

It could be Origins 2 Ajani flipwalker

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Oketra should have been a cat as well as a god.

Spoiler

She should've made cat tokens too.

 

[Infinite Stars]

It could be Origins 2 Ajani flipwalker

:Nods approvingly:

I mean, Jazzal was mono white, and it has to be a plane with Leonin..

Incoming GW Brimaz?

I just really like the design of Exert outside of solely combat scenarios. I could see some sort of Blue "Draw 3, Discard 2 unless X" with Exert.

 

[DrArchon]

Wow, that lion is nutty in limited. Talk about clogging up the board.

God, I'm gonna have to face someone in draft that lucks out and gets this and Regal Caracal in one deck, aren't I?

 

[OnPoint]

:Nods approvingly:

I mean, Jazzal was mono white, and it has to be a plane with Leonin..

Incoming GW Brimaz?

I just really like the design of Exert outside of solely combat scenarios. I could see some sort of Blue "Draw 3, Discard 2 unless X" with Exert.

Would love this for my fabled but not yet created Lion King deck. No good or fitting GW legends to put in as the commander