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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
- Thread starter SigmasonicX
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A wheel with the land exert drawback would essentially still be a wheel for all intent and purposes. No one cares about the drawback when you win in the same turn.
I could see a "take an extra turn" effect, a sort of last stand/final fortune effect variant. It would be reasonably strong and playable in the right deck. But since it would be a good card , it'd be blue.
Wheel effects in general aren't even that interesting. Drawing 7 with some drawbacks it's almost always gonna be abused in combo lists and unplayed everywhere else.
I could see a "take an extra turn" effect, a sort of last stand/final fortune effect variant. It would be reasonably strong and playable in the right deck. But since it would be a good card , it'd be blue.
Wheel effects in general aren't even that interesting. Drawing 7 with some drawbacks it's almost always gonna be abused in combo lists and unplayed everywhere else.
Infinite Stars
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Ugh, that's gonna suck. Especially since it's an Instant Speed Ability that stacks, so Blocks, Pay W, give my blocker +2/+2 and get 2 1/1 cats.
cooltrainer
Member
1RR
Destroy all lands. Lands you control don't untap during your next untap step.
Destroy all lands. Lands you control don't untap during your next untap step.
What I wouldn't mind
What i'm expecting
Hazoret's Last X 1RR
Sorcery
Discard your hand. Draw 7 cards.
Lands you control don't untap
during your next untap phase.
Sorcery
Discard your hand. Draw 7 cards.
Lands you control don't untap
during your next untap phase.
What i'm expecting
Hazoret's Last Poop 1RR
Sorcery
Discard your hand. Exile the top
card of your library. You may play it until
until the end of the turn. Your lands don't
untap during your next untap phase.
Sorcery
Discard your hand. Exile the top
card of your library. You may play it until
until the end of the turn. Your lands don't
untap during your next untap phase.
In what bizarro-universe do you live in? If it's land destruction, it would probably just be Stone Rain these days.
A Serious Man
Member
Pretty sure he was joking.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, wheel effects have to work for both players.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
You don't ever have a bunch of creatures in your hand and enough mana to cast them and this spell.
Do they? Chandra Flamecaller doesn't. Also, the 'don't untap' clause is enough for me to break from this, if they went this route.
Sounds like it's at their desired power level for instant/sorceries, then.
But yah you're right. I am thinking of the ideal situation for that sort of card more than the typical one.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That's not a wheel. Collective Defiance already does that specific effect for that cost.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I dunno if they're gonna want to do a version where you just immediately win and never have to deal with the drawback. And Relentless Assault is already only like 4 mana.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
No way, the green ones probably going to be:
Rhonas's Last Marvel
3G
Instant
Look at the top six cards of your library. You may cast a creature card from among them without paying its mana cost.
=V
Rhonas's Last Marvel
3G
Instant
Look at the top six cards of your library. You may cast a creature card from among them without paying its mana cost.
=V
Rhonas's Last Company
3G
Instant
Look at the top six cards of your library. Put up to two creature cards with converted mana cost 3 or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
You lands don't untap during your next untap phase.
SigmasonicX
Member
Rhonas's Hornet Sting
Infinite Stars
Member
Rhonas's Last Craterhoof 3GG
Creature- God Beast
When You cast Rhonas's Last Craterhoof, creatures you control get +5/+5 and trample until end of turn.
Trample, Haste
5/5
Creature- God Beast
When You cast Rhonas's Last Craterhoof, creatures you control get +5/+5 and trample until end of turn.
Trample, Haste
5/5
My Guesses
Kefnet's Last Epiphany 1UU
Instant
Look at the top 6, put 2 in your hand and the rest in your graveyard. Lands don't untap.
Hazoret's Last Resort 1RR
Sorcery
~ deals 6 damage, divided as you choose among up to 6 target creatures. Lands don't untap.
Rhona's Last Stand 1GG
Sorcery
Create three 3/3 green hippo tokens. Lands don't untap.
Kefnet's Last Epiphany 1UU
Instant
Look at the top 6, put 2 in your hand and the rest in your graveyard. Lands don't untap.
Hazoret's Last Resort 1RR
Sorcery
~ deals 6 damage, divided as you choose among up to 6 target creatures. Lands don't untap.
Rhona's Last Stand 1GG
Sorcery
Create three 3/3 green hippo tokens. Lands don't untap.
Infinite Stars
Member
But Ramp is deemed too powerful for the game, just like Land Destruction.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
weird card.
PWs are vampires confirmed.
PWs are vampires confirmed.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Cool design. This has the potential to combo with so many things.
This is a very fun toy
Cool design. This has the potential to combo with so many things.
Son of a b! I need this for my copy stuff deck!
FreedomFrisbee
Member
Cool design. This has the potential to combo with so many things.
Thespian stage 5-8?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Well we didn't have the art for it then. No idea what it is now. We already have 2 burn spells.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
The copiable values of an object are its name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and loyalty. You generally copy cards as they are printed and not subject to things modifying them.
ThLunarian
Member
When you copy something, only the printed stats and abilities of the card are copied. Counters, auras, extra abilities, etc. are not copied. So it would not count as exerted.
If you copy a Glorybringer and then exert the copy, it will remain tapped on your next turn even though it's no longer a Glorybringer.
Edit: Apparently Loyalty is a type of counter that is copy-able, according to Grimace above. My info is out of date on that
SigmasonicX
Member
I believe he was referring to starting loyalty, which only matters as it enters the battlefield. If the mirror could copy planeswalkers, it would go to the graveyard right away, because counters wouldn't be placed on it.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
No, it means the loyalty a Planeswalker enters the battlefield with. If you use Clever Impersonator on a Planeswalker, it has to copy that value or it would enter with 0 and die as a state-based action. That's also why the flipwalkers exile themselves - if you transformed Jace, Vryn's Prodigy with Moonmist, he would die because he would have no loyalty since a transformed card doesn't enter the battlefield.
Think bigger. It's Lightning Bolt! Strike being too good for Standard is hilarious though. These knuckleheads are so heavily invested in the idea nothing should ever get answered because it "feels bad."
The blue one seems close.
I feel like they'd go with something splashier than burn for red, but the cost seems in line with the two we've seen.
Green might be too good. Attacking for 9 on turn 3 (with a mana dork) is a lot more aggressive than the other cards. Maybe it'd be a super-Regrowth? Or Urban Evolution?
Remembrance
Member
Actually, you know what.
It shows two pyramids getting destroyed. It's a reprint of Rack and Ruin.
Or Echoing Ruin.
That's actually not far off for speculation.
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