Familienoberhauptvogel
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That card is awesome but OP Ashodin.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT12| Hour of Devastation - Hour of Jace getting dunked on
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The original trigger was ETB though!
I don't know. I hate how slow the reveals are. They should be dumping 10+ cards every day.
Every. Damn. Time.
I post these all the time, and I make it absolutely clear it's fake. What's wrong with that?
And we've asked people not to do this in spoiler season all the time!
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's ashodin it's clearly fake. You don't pretend otherwise and this attitude against it has always been toxic.
Clearly we're just killing time waiting for more spoilers
OnPoint I don't care, if it's not being presented as real, and it's not being presented in the middle of actual spoilers going out (ie during the beginning of the day) then I don't see the problem.
Familien is right, it's toxic. I can't discuss anything else in the thread regarding cards unless it's actual spoilers? When I'm trying to clearly not even remotely hide the fact that it's fake?
smh.
OnPoint I don't care, if it's not being presented as real, and it's not being presented in the middle of actual spoilers going out (ie during the beginning of the day) then I don't see the problem.
Familien is right, it's toxic. I can't discuss anything else in the thread regarding cards unless it's actual spoilers? When I'm trying to clearly not even remotely hide the fact that it's fake?
smh.
I don't care if you don't care.
The mod that posts in this thread said don't post fake cards during spoiler seasons. Many times.
It doesn't matter if you're presenting them as fake.
You just don't do it.
You are wrong.
Period.
I still think if there's a delineated difference and a lull in posts and/or discussion, it's fair game.
As stated before, I'll just delete the whole post if I have to, but I think it's ridiculous to be so stringent.
And OnPoint you don't have to be so invested to make posts like this, come on man. It's like you're trying to personally attack me.
As stated before, I'll just delete the whole post if I have to, but I think it's ridiculous to be so stringent.
And OnPoint you don't have to be so invested to make posts like this, come on man. It's like you're trying to personally attack me.
It annoys me that we have one time every couple of months where you're not supposed to make fake cards and you ALWAYS do it. You do it pretty much every spoiler season.
Look, I like making fake cards too. I don't mean to come off as attacking you. I just think when a mod says something, and repeatedly, you should probably listen. And you consistently don't.
Of course Charlequin could come in and relax the rule. Then it'd be fine. I just don't think it's a very hard rule to follow.
blindrocket
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I did an honest lol
I'm interested in knowing more about these!
unless you plan on playing an innovative deck or are really into the competitive scene, I don't see the appeal of constructed anyway. Not much fun pouring lots of cash into a deck that everyone else plays, with minor personal adjustments at best. Once in a blue moon I consider trying out standard again and then quickly discard the idea and go back to drafting. EDH is slightly more interesting, but let's be honest it's mostly just the same old piles of tried and true good stuff-cards every time
they better hit a homerun with Next and keep it F2P
they better hit a homerun with Next and keep it F2P
charlequin
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https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/criosphinx
http://historyandmyths.tumblr.com/post/34161330992/worldofmythology-the-criosphinx-by-vyrilien
Like the Serpopard, this is a creature lifted directly from real Egyptian folklore so it's kind of funny that people complain about it in the same conversations where people say they should include more legit folklore sources.
I guess my position on this is that it's ultimately pretty ridiculous to get upset about Rosewater -- who is easily one of the most honest and forthcoming game designers for a major property there is -- hyping shit up. He avoids making any false claims, either hyping just by saying that he thinks something his team made is good (which is pretty much what you expect people to do with the things they make) or mentioning specific facts that other people can get hyped about. He's not misleading anyone and he's not doing hyper-aggressive marketing, I don't think it's the end of the world if he's excited about a set that gets a lukewarm reception.
One way you can tell that this is largely a development problem (the same type of thing that was true of Scars of Mirrodin, actually) is that it has an above-average limited format by many standards and is full of big casual hits, but completely miserable for Standard.
kirblar just isn't representative on this. Vehicles were reasonably popular, mostly well-received, and are going to wind up in an equipment-esque spot in terms of being casually popular for years to come even as their power level gets dialed down. (I'll note that over the history of the game, stuff that's overpowered and ruins Standard environments is almost universally remembered positively by people once it's not directly impacting a live competitive format.)
This is still a weird claim to me. This set hits pop-culture Egypt tropes much harder than Theros hits Greek ones. Almost every single major story beat of the Mummy (1997) is in there, for example. (I guess maybe there isn't specifically a giant sandstorm with a face.)
Yes, though I think with retrospect we can say pretty clearly that they actually fucked it up in the opposite direction -- people were mad about the wasted potential and surface-level cultural trappings -- and should've hit the theme harder.
Simply Sarah
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Well, that's the thing. It hits the tropes related to dusty, dead Egypt and now from the Bible but not a ton from a living Egypt. It only hits a few Egyptian mythological tropes and given everything else I'm not even sure if it's intentional or not (like Bolas coming in and placing himself at the head of the pantheon).
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Alright you got me, Ram headed sphinx are legit.
I knew it reminded me of something though
and this card is from Theros
This is only Magic adjacent, but Richard Garfield recently posted his thoughts on a Universal Basic Income: https://www.facebook.com/notes/richard-garfield/thoughts-on-universal-basic-income/1326575394125347/
Man, Garfield is just a great guy. Those thoughts mirror and echo my own.
"God's Beard!"
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Haven't played magic in a while so I loaded up my old buddy cockatrice.
Binding Mummy is a pretty good draft card. Cradle is so sick with it.
Binding Mummy is a pretty good draft card. Cradle is so sick with it.
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";241488660]Haven't played magic in a while so I loaded up my old buddy cockatrice.
Binding Mummy is a pretty good draft card. Cradle is so sick with it.[/QUOTE]
Every time I got hit with it at GP Richmond it was brutal. Cradle is the nuts when you're in the zombie deck.
Binding Mummy is a pretty good draft card. Cradle is so sick with it.[/QUOTE]
Every time I got hit with it at GP Richmond it was brutal. Cradle is the nuts when you're in the zombie deck.
I didn't, cause holy crap I don't want to play EDH, and I REALLY don't want to play Replenish decks in EDH!
gross with Solemnity, which I assume is why people bought it
Maybe you don't. But I'll be curious to see the new price for those of us that do play EDH.
Yeah I posted about it a page or two ago. Super gross.
It's a really thoughtful article, yes. Don't want to delve too deep in it, but want to say the following as an electromechanical and power engineer.
Automation is usually applied to tasks that human don't really like to do anyway, that they aren't very good at or that are too dangerous to be performed by a human. Most people assume that robots (or software for that matter) are brought in solely to reduce costs, but that is hardly true. Yes, I won't deny that automation has a goal of trying to reduce costs, but mostly it's used as a tool to meet certain performance requirements. And as a consumer, that is actually a good thing. It allows our factories to be more productive, more safe and less polluting and the product itself be of higher quality. Take the paint of your car for example. A human can do the paint job, but a robot can do it much faster, wasting less paint, applying it perfectly equal while it doesn't inhale harmful substances.
But many people rightfully fear that their job is on the line and will be replaced soon. That may very well happen, but you need to remember than human workforce has one very big advantage over robots: flexibility. Humans have very flexible degrees of freedom for movements, and are very easy to train to do a whole range of tasks, all while powered by a very efficient power source. Robots are very good at doing a specific complex task, but really suck at trying to do widely different simple ones (what is complex for a human is simple for a robot and vice versa). Car factories don't want to fully automate because robots break down too, cost a lot to be repaired and aren't easily retro-fitted to do another task. Maybe there will be one day where robots repair robots, but I'd fear more for a robot uprising than for my job the day that happens.
I still believe that as long as people are good at their job that they like to do, that job will continue to exist. Yes, nobody will be mining coal with a pickaxe and shovel, but did people really like to do that job outside the pay? But will future Magic sets be made just by RoboRosewater? I doubt it. People like Mark Rosewater still like to design and develop the cards. Letting it do by a robot doesn't have any benefits, a robot won't make better designed cards or more creative sets than a human can do. So as long people still want to make Magic cards, they will continue making them.
In short, will many shitty jobs disappear? Most likely, yes. That's where stuff like a UBI could come in to alleviate things. But is automation all doom and gloom? I don't really think so.
Automation is usually applied to tasks that human don't really like to do anyway, that they aren't very good at or that are too dangerous to be performed by a human. Most people assume that robots (or software for that matter) are brought in solely to reduce costs, but that is hardly true. Yes, I won't deny that automation has a goal of trying to reduce costs, but mostly it's used as a tool to meet certain performance requirements. And as a consumer, that is actually a good thing. It allows our factories to be more productive, more safe and less polluting and the product itself be of higher quality. Take the paint of your car for example. A human can do the paint job, but a robot can do it much faster, wasting less paint, applying it perfectly equal while it doesn't inhale harmful substances.
But many people rightfully fear that their job is on the line and will be replaced soon. That may very well happen, but you need to remember than human workforce has one very big advantage over robots: flexibility. Humans have very flexible degrees of freedom for movements, and are very easy to train to do a whole range of tasks, all while powered by a very efficient power source. Robots are very good at doing a specific complex task, but really suck at trying to do widely different simple ones (what is complex for a human is simple for a robot and vice versa). Car factories don't want to fully automate because robots break down too, cost a lot to be repaired and aren't easily retro-fitted to do another task. Maybe there will be one day where robots repair robots, but I'd fear more for a robot uprising than for my job the day that happens.
I still believe that as long as people are good at their job that they like to do, that job will continue to exist. Yes, nobody will be mining coal with a pickaxe and shovel, but did people really like to do that job outside the pay? But will future Magic sets be made just by RoboRosewater? I doubt it. People like Mark Rosewater still like to design and develop the cards. Letting it do by a robot doesn't have any benefits, a robot won't make better designed cards or more creative sets than a human can do. So as long people still want to make Magic cards, they will continue making them.
In short, will many shitty jobs disappear? Most likely, yes. That's where stuff like a UBI could come in to alleviate things. But is automation all doom and gloom? I don't really think so.
charlequin
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Yeah I really don't want to be a dick about the custom card thing but it's really just easier if we have a specific rule.
So my basic hope is that with the new 3/1 paradigm they'll a) not have to invent questionable reasons for every plane to blow up when we first visit it, b) have more room to do the same world different ways when we do spend two sets there, and c) when they do blow up a world, have a good idea of how that can be part of a twist for the second visit. (Like, Tarkir 2 will be about the clans coming back, which is a pretty obvious way to revisit wedges without actually undoing the plot points they ended the block on.)
Yes, after Alpha came out, Arabian Nights, Legends, Ice Age, and Mirage (along with a set that eventually became the basis for Invasion) all started parallel design under separate teams who were using only the original core set as a basis for design. Ice Age was specifically designed to be a continuation of the Terisiare setting of Antiquities, but the setting for Mirage was tacked on by the "Continuity" team after it was already done and assigned to a region on the giant Dominaria map they'd designed.
By my count Amonkhet hits:
That's seriously like everything outside the Biblical references (which Hour of Devastation seems to have in hand.)
So my basic hope is that with the new 3/1 paradigm they'll a) not have to invent questionable reasons for every plane to blow up when we first visit it, b) have more room to do the same world different ways when we do spend two sets there, and c) when they do blow up a world, have a good idea of how that can be part of a twist for the second visit. (Like, Tarkir 2 will be about the clans coming back, which is a pretty obvious way to revisit wedges without actually undoing the plot points they ended the block on.)
Yes, after Alpha came out, Arabian Nights, Legends, Ice Age, and Mirage (along with a set that eventually became the basis for Invasion) all started parallel design under separate teams who were using only the original core set as a basis for design. Ice Age was specifically designed to be a continuation of the Terisiare setting of Antiquities, but the setting for Mirage was tacked on by the "Continuity" team after it was already done and assigned to a region on the giant Dominaria map they'd designed.
By my count Amonkhet hits:
- Mummies
- Ancient prophecy
- Pyramids
- The flooding of the Nile
- The "Cradle of Civilization"
- Animal-headed gods
- Ancient curses
- Flesh-eating scarabs
- Powerful magical charms
- Hieroglyphics
- Sphinxes (both living and statue)
- Snakes, jackals, and cats
- Deadly deserts
- Camels
- Tombs and the afterlife
- Heart-eating crocodiles
- The two Egyptian sovereigns anyone's ever heard of, Cleopatra and King Tut
That's seriously like everything outside the Biblical references (which Hour of Devastation seems to have in hand.)
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Holy shit I missed this on the last page. That's absolutely disgusting, lol.
I know it's not an auto-win until you get both pieces out (and even then, there's a few options w/ stuff on the battlefield or can't be countered stuff), but encountering that thing in an EDH deck is going to be worse than Iona.....and then you'll never be able to play that deck in a multiplayer game again, lol.
What an awesome card. Fantastic commander.
The Scarab God
3UB
Mythic Rare
Legendary Creature God
At the beginning of your upkeep, each opponent loses X life and you scry X, where X is the number of Zombies you control.
2UB: Exile target creature card from a graveyard. Create a token thats a copy of it, except its a 4/4 black Zombie.
When The Scarab God dies, return it to its owners hand at the beginning of the next end step.
5/5
Yeah, I think Amonkhet succeeded in hitting the major tropes where Kaladesh failed. I don't see the two the same at all.
Where I do think they both failed is the size/one city complain that was leveraged against Kaladesh. It's a bit more forgiveable with Amonkhet since the world being reduced to one city is actually a plot point and there's room for growth beyond the Hekma, but the planes of today still feel incredibly cramped.
Edit: Whoa, Scarab God is awesome. Can eternalize anything? The Grixis gods have been hits across the board.
Where I do think they both failed is the size/one city complain that was leveraged against Kaladesh. It's a bit more forgiveable with Amonkhet since the world being reduced to one city is actually a plot point and there's room for growth beyond the Hekma, but the planes of today still feel incredibly cramped.
Edit: Whoa, Scarab God is awesome. Can eternalize anything? The Grixis gods have been hits across the board.
Imperfected
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I want this zombie god.
What an awesome card. Fantastic commander.
Great card! It looks great for EDH and it's probably okay in standard.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Best one by far? Wow.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
That's pretty damn great for a zombie mill EDH deck, holy shit.
Plus no 'rules' about needing X condition to activate.
blindrocket
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What an awesome card. Fantastic commander.
I really like this and the Locust God.
Cosmo Clock 21
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Image is unreadable on mobile, can anybody transcribe or figure out a high res version that bypasses imgur's new bullshit?
Edit: figured this shit out
Edit: figured this shit out
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