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[Imperfected]

I mean, the thing is with Ambuscade, Abrade, Struggle, etc. in HOU, Gruul can actually run this crazy oppressive controlling aggro monstrosity deck.

That's just not what he's got, though, it's like the dumbest beaters he could find and a couple of Samuts. He drafted, what, four copies of Naga Harrier?

 

[Tunoku]

whenever it looks like my draft deck wants me to go RG, I stop and think - no, I'm better than that

I enjoy winning too much for that.

 

[Santiako]

Sam Black with the Wrath of God Invocation in his deck. woof

 

[Violet_0]

I enjoy winning too much for that.

perhaps, but my honor remains intact

 

[Santiako]

Rhonas's Last Stand on turn 2 is very hard to beat. I had it on my prerelease and didn't lose a single game when I played it then.

 

[Imperfected]

I had 3 Ambuscades, 3 Struggles, and some other assorted red explosives in my prerelease, so I have a warped view of the value of some of these creatures based on never seeing them stay on the table.

My only draft wasn't much better since I cracked Invocation Scorpion God + non-Invocation Scorpion God.

 

[traveler]

The one time I had to face a turn 2 Rhonas' Last Stand with an empty board I happened to be on the play with a Vizier of Deferment in hand. Definitely the best that card has ever felt.

 

[Tunoku]

I saw someone just Unsummon a Last Stand token immediately after it hit the battlefield on the second turn. Probably the best Unsummon I had ever seen.

 

[Ashodin]

The one time I had to face a turn 2 Rhonas' Last Stand with an empty board I happened to be on the play with a Vizier of Deferment in hand. Definitely the best that card has ever felt.

goddamn son I bet it was like satisfying as fuck to drop that on the board.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

man sigrist been curving out perfectly

 

[Tunoku]

Gruul just does the job. Get dunked on.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

sigrist only has 1 kindled fury right?

 

[Santiako]

sigrist only has 1 kindled fury right?

Yeah I think so.

 

[Justin]

Apparently no one told Paul that as a WOTC employee he shouldn't refer to cards as "bad" and "awful".

 

[Violet_0]

Apparently no one told Paul that as a WOTC employee he shouldn't refer to cards as "bad" and "awful".

we're making an exception for Samut, The Tested

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Yeah I think so.

card has been doing triple duty for him

 

[Ashodin]

Green is way better in draft than in standard atm

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

are we just gonna ignore various top tier green based decks in standard?

 

[Santiako]

Yeah, I don't know what he's on about. Green is fine in standard.

 

[Ashodin]

I mean you got GR Ramp / Temur / GB Energy, but these decks aren't using powerful win cons outside of like Verdurous Gearhulk which isn't technically totally green (being part artifact)

There's a lot of supportive green cards instead of finishers is what I'm getting at.

Also heads up, SaffronOlive's next deck next week is likely Fraying Sanity. Get ready for dat jump.

Oh shit Pro Tour Hall of Fame at lunchtime!

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

birthing pod is not totally green, verdurous gearhulk is.

Tireless Tracker, Longtusk Cub, Attune with Aether, Bristling Hydra, Servant of the Conduit, Rogue Refiner, Winding Constrictor,

Grim Flayer doesn't even see much play.

edit: holy shit grim flayer got hella cheap. Probably want a playset soon.

 

[Santiako]

Oketra's Monument is so good.

I mean you got GR Ramp / Temur / GB Energy, but these decks aren't using powerful win cons outside of like Verdurous Gearhulk which isn't technically totally green (being part artifact)

There's a lot of supportive green cards instead of finishers is what I'm getting at.

You're way off here, green sees plenty of play.

EDIT: Familienoberhauptvogel said it better.

 

[traveler]

No Pikula then

 

[Santiako]

Josh Utter-Leyton and Martin Juza get into the HoF.

No Pikula

 

[traveler]

Oh wow, Pikula was third. Got screwed by the new rules... the second time he's been screwed by a rules change jeez.

 

[Santiako]

Holy shit the rules change was literally to keep Pikula out it seems. He got the 40% this year :/

 

[OnPoint]

I always forget how Maro is until he's on screen. I can't help but laugh every time. He's such a cartoon.

I hate when I can't find cards I know I own. There are Kitchen Finks somewhere in my house, I just have no idea where. How annoying.

 

[Santiako]

Standard starting, Huey vs Reid!

I always forget how Maro is until he's on screen. I can't help but laugh every time. He's such a cartoon.

He feels like a magic leprechaun on tons of coke.

 

[Ashodin]

Oketra's Monument is so good.



You're way off here, green sees plenty of play.

EDIT: Familienoberhauptvogel said it better.

It sees a lot of play. It's not dominant which is what I was getting at.

RG Pummeller vs. Bolas!

 

[Santiako]

Pummeler for 40 ish, not bad.

It sees a lot of play. It's not dominant which is what I was getting at.

RG Pummeller vs. Bolas!

But it's not dominant in draft either, so your post never made any sense.

 

[Ashodin]

Pummeler for 40 ish, not bad.



But it's not dominant in draft either, so your post never made any sense.

I said it looks better in draft than in standard.

edit: just as predicted, Nicol-Bolas is basically a win more card instead of a corner turner

 

[Yeef]

Random question- has anyone else had trouble getting onto the CFB site the past couple days? I keep trying every day to preorder the commander set but the store specifically is down every time I go. Tried on IE and Chrome.

It's been going in and out for me as well. It'll work fine, then I'll do a search and get a server error. Then I'll wait like 2 minutes and refresh the search and it'll be fine again. Repeat.

 

[Imperfected]

Do they just not realize Rhonas can pump the Pummeler and he has tons of mana?

 

[Santiako]

Bolas stealing Rhonas + Pummeler for the win haha

 

[Ashodin]

Do they just not realize Rhonas can pump the Pummeler and he has tons of mana?

I was wrong, if you basically get the opponent's Rhonas + Pummeller off the top of their deck apparently you can win games 🤔

 

[Santiako]

I was wrong, if you basically get the opponent's Rhonas + Pummeller off the top of their deck apparently you can win games 🤔

Yeah, that was like literally best case scenario for Bolas.

 

[Imperfected]

I mean, if you aren't hitting things that are worth casting with Bolas, why were you struggling against a deck full of cards that aren't worth casting to begin with?

(Combo/Tribal decks aside, anyway.)

 

[Santiako]

I mean, if you aren't hitting things that are worth casting with Bolas, why were you struggling against a deck full of cards that aren't worth casting to begin with?

(Combo/Tribal decks aside, anyway.)

He could've hit a lot of fluff (pump spells, attune, harnessed lightning, another Rhonas, etc)

 

[Imperfected]

He could've hit a lot of fluff (pump spells, attune, harnessed lightning, another Rhonas, etc)

Didn't he actually hit one Attune? He used it to fetch an extra land when he was already at ten.

 

[Santiako]

Didn't he actually hit one Attune? He used it to fetch an extra land when he was already at ten.

Yeah, he did.

 

[charlequin]

Holy shit the rules change was literally to keep Pikula out it seems. He got the 40% this year :/

Infuriating.

 

[traveler]

Hahaha Muller is 0 for 2 with BDM interviews. Dropping F bombs left and right.

 

[Santiako]

Day 1 metagame:

As expected, monored is the most played deck.

 

[Ashodin]

we gonna win the bets boys

 

[El Topo]

Red on top?
*wipes a tear away*

 

[Ashodin]

Red has totally turned it around recently.

 

[Yeef]

Wizards is terrible at choosing background music and musical cues in general.

So, in the past, they've used music from Magic Duels for the background music at Pro Tours. There's a chance the new stuff they're using will be from whatever the new digital client that's coming is.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

pierre is playing way too safe, he doesn't have nearly enough toughness on board to block a combo'd pummeler. Unbelievabe he lost with this start.

So, in the past, they've used music from Magic Duels for the background music at Pro Tours. There's a chance the new stuff they're using will be from whatever the new digital client that's coming is.

interesting, not making it any better though. The HOU theme in particular makes for chase music more than idle wait in line music between rounds.

 

[Violet_0]

Monument has fallen out of favor already, eh?

I bet RDW won't have a great win rate. And why is the freaking zombie deck popular again

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

supposedly a good RDW matchup contrary to monument which explains both.