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Magic: the Gathering |OT9| Kaladesh - Cruisin' Down the Street in my 6/4
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FreedomFrisbee
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It seems fairly obvious to me that red was toned down in preparation for making a couple nuts cards for it. Green seems like the thing they don't know what to do with and are making mistakes with. Collected Company is clearly not something they planned for, but Collected Company will also never be in a Kaladesh context.
it's literally rhys but worse
Artifact green is so weird.
they wanted to increase green's power level for literally a decade.
They are trying a bunch of new things, but the problem is they are also taking away the one thing the color was actually good at (burn) at the same time, which ends up making Red just unplayable as they experiment with new things.
RuinerPrime
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Guess no r/u legendary 
Gearhulk reanimator? Probably not.
Joe Molotov
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tfw Red is so nerfed, that 3/3 haster is looking pretty good
"God's Beard!"
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This might be my favorite card in the set so far. It's the real deal. I doubt there's a Sphinx's Rev-level control deck in the format, but this thing also enables insane turbo-delirium decks because you'll never deck yourself and you can put back all the cards you want to draw while leaving yourself as many card types as you want.
charlequin
Banned
Artifact green is so weird.
Eh, I mean, it makes artifacts technically but it's kind of more of a creatures-matter card when you get down to it?
It's not like this is the only card they can print with the mechanic.
Still think it's weird how everyone's acting like burn that only targets players OR creatures is this new thing.
It's definitely not a new thing. Spitting Earth, Flame Slash, Harvest Pyre, etc. What's new, or at least notable, is the absolute dearth of burn that hits the face.
Since 10th Edition, Instant speed 3 damage to anything has existed at 1R (Incinerate, Searing Spear, Lightning Strike) or R (Lightning Bolt) at all times in Standard. There were usually other burn spells around it as well- slightly more expensive cards that did more damage (Char, Flame Javelin, Stoke The Flames), a 1 mana instant that could hit anything (Shock, Galvanic Blast, Wild Slash), and you would get the cards that only did damage to creatures or players but were either very good rates (1 mana for 4 damage) or had additional upsides (Flame Slash, Flames of the Firehand, Skullcrack).
Now, our default is 2 damage to a creature only for 1 mana (with slight upside), 3 damage to anything for 2 mana but at Sorcery speed, the good 3 mana burn spell is sorcery speed (Exquisite Firecraft).
Burn is absurdly worse than it was even a few years ago, which has led to red basically being unplayable
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This is fun. Force them to burn a piece of their own removal on their own creature
EDIT: If able is annoying though, so you can't make conditional stuff fizzle
That flame gauntlet is neat in flavor but terrible execution.
Just +2/+0? Please.
There's no rare equip spoiled yet, so here's hoping they're hiding it until Friday.
Unless aether revolt is the equip set.
"Equip your troops for the revolt!"
When Amonkhet comes it'll be too late for stone haven outfitter to shine!
They really must've veered away from equipment to want to differentiate from Mirrodin. Which is a downer. I love the set already for vehicles, but I was hoping for some love here.
Just +2/+0? Please.
There's no rare equip spoiled yet, so here's hoping they're hiding it until Friday.
Unless aether revolt is the equip set.
"Equip your troops for the revolt!"
When Amonkhet comes it'll be too late for stone haven outfitter to shine!
They really must've veered away from equipment to want to differentiate from Mirrodin. Which is a downer. I love the set already for vehicles, but I was hoping for some love here.
"God's Beard!"
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Nah, she can choose to only deal one of the two damage to her and the other to an opponent's servo or whatever.
I admittedly did skim over that part. Still strong though. Like if they happen to have a bunch of blue or white aura removal in their hand it just shuts it all off.
SigmasonicX
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Magic Story - Renegade Prime
* Flashback. While Pia was in prison, the officer in charge of her capture, Baral, claims that he killed Chandra and taunts her with it along with Kiran's real death.
* She hits him through the bars, knocking off a mask Baral was wearing. In response, blue flames appear around him, revealing that he's a mage, and that his face was burned by Chandra.
* Back to more recent history. In the passing years, after she escaped jail, she gathered inventors who were protesting the Consul's increasingly tight grip, eventually forming the Renegades.
* Earlier in the present day, she helps a young renegade, Tamni, with a thopter she messed up on.
* One renegade is a former high-ranking Consulate guard, Venkat.
* During her speech to the group, Pia notes that over the years, they've been seeing more and more of the Fair taken up by weapons and security devices, with the Consul as patrons. She goes on to note particular instances of the Consul taking foundries, shutting down power for city blocks, etc.
* Their demonstration simply involves doing a harmless but unlicensed display with thopters, which causes guard automatons to gather, and then using aether from the thopters to overload and shut down the automatons. Then leaving the renegade symbol as graffiti.
* OK, it looks like there are some inconsistencies with the previous story. First, the previous story implied that the demonstration was far more chaotic than that. Second, she meets Tezzeret in a different way than the previous story, even if the dialogue is the same.
* Oh, and Nissa and Baan turned out to coincidentally be right there too, ever increasing the unlikelihood of this encounter. Plus, I'm really surprised we didn't get a story about their arrival.
* Baan orders Gearhulks to attack Chandra, and she destroys them fairly easily. Unless gearhulks are also used to refer to much smaller machines, they're making a smaller deal out of this then you'd think.
* As more and more soldiers surround Chandra, Pia surrenders. Liliana tells Chandra to give up and run away.
* Chandra, Liliana, and Nissa escape. Liliana notes that Tezzeret is dangerous. Him cutting Jace's back with a mana blade is one thing we know is canon from that Tezzeret book of ambiguous canon.
* Nissa asks why they left without saying anything, Liliana says she doesn't ask permission or forgiveness.
* Nissa thinks Liliana has been provoking Chandra to act this way and calls her a monster. Liliana is annoyed but she needs the Gatewatch, and thus won't attack Nissa. Instead, she points out that Chandra was running from her (Nissa) in the first place.
* Liliana leaves to go on a walk, and Oviya Pashiri appears to talk to Chandra. I had forgotten, but she appeared in Chandra's origin story.
It's so weird how there are inconsistencies between this and the previous story, when Doug Beyer wrote both of them.
* Flashback. While Pia was in prison, the officer in charge of her capture, Baral, claims that he killed Chandra and taunts her with it along with Kiran's real death.
* She hits him through the bars, knocking off a mask Baral was wearing. In response, blue flames appear around him, revealing that he's a mage, and that his face was burned by Chandra.
* Back to more recent history. In the passing years, after she escaped jail, she gathered inventors who were protesting the Consul's increasingly tight grip, eventually forming the Renegades.
* Earlier in the present day, she helps a young renegade, Tamni, with a thopter she messed up on.
* One renegade is a former high-ranking Consulate guard, Venkat.
* During her speech to the group, Pia notes that over the years, they've been seeing more and more of the Fair taken up by weapons and security devices, with the Consul as patrons. She goes on to note particular instances of the Consul taking foundries, shutting down power for city blocks, etc.
* Their demonstration simply involves doing a harmless but unlicensed display with thopters, which causes guard automatons to gather, and then using aether from the thopters to overload and shut down the automatons. Then leaving the renegade symbol as graffiti.
* OK, it looks like there are some inconsistencies with the previous story. First, the previous story implied that the demonstration was far more chaotic than that. Second, she meets Tezzeret in a different way than the previous story, even if the dialogue is the same.
* Oh, and Nissa and Baan turned out to coincidentally be right there too, ever increasing the unlikelihood of this encounter. Plus, I'm really surprised we didn't get a story about their arrival.
* Baan orders Gearhulks to attack Chandra, and she destroys them fairly easily. Unless gearhulks are also used to refer to much smaller machines, they're making a smaller deal out of this then you'd think.
* As more and more soldiers surround Chandra, Pia surrenders. Liliana tells Chandra to give up and run away.
* Chandra, Liliana, and Nissa escape. Liliana notes that Tezzeret is dangerous. Him cutting Jace's back with a mana blade is one thing we know is canon from that Tezzeret book of ambiguous canon.
* Nissa asks why they left without saying anything, Liliana says she doesn't ask permission or forgiveness.
* Nissa thinks Liliana has been provoking Chandra to act this way and calls her a monster. Liliana is annoyed but she needs the Gatewatch, and thus won't attack Nissa. Instead, she points out that Chandra was running from her (Nissa) in the first place.
* Liliana leaves to go on a walk, and Oviya Pashiri appears to talk to Chandra. I had forgotten, but she appeared in Chandra's origin story.
It's so weird how there are inconsistencies between this and the previous story, when Doug Beyer wrote both of them.
Doug Beyer wrote Alara Unbroken, plot inconsistencies might as well be his middle name.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Chandra found her mom
Now she's in jail
Plot
Now she's in jail
Plot
Story Card #2.
Hope Chandra'a mom doesn't die. Fictional living parents (especially single mothers) are rarer than they should be.
Predicting how useful they'll be in standard?
Simply Sarah
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No, no. See, this is just one of those bumps that in the end serves to bring Nissa and Chandra even closer together! I wish I knew if I were joking or not!
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Jace, for an entire set "Gee what is this eldritch power that is warping this plane and causing people to grow purple and pink tentacles? I must spend so much time INVESTIGATING this MYSTERY"
Chandra, on Kaladesh for five minutes "MOM! I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD FOR YEARS! Maybe I should have visite-"
Chandra, on Kaladesh for five minutes "MOM! I THOUGHT YOU WERE DEAD FOR YEARS! Maybe I should have visite-"
Natch. Character development. It's the only thing parents are good for in fantasy fiction.
It's funny how your description matches what the colors would do to the lore. Blue is slow and plodding, and red is quick and speedy.
Simply Sarah
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I mean, has anyone ever actually claimed that Jace was a good detective? I mean, at least outside of situations where the case can be solved by just reading someone's mind?
Reason #5823 why Greg Universe is the coolest dad.
"God's Beard!"
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That draw spell is the nut, holy crap. Common? Goddamn.
Huh huh what????
Discard two land draw gas??
With fiery, 1RR becomes discard one, deal three, draw three
Yeah this seems really good shit
"God's Beard!"
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Close to a 2 mana version of a 3 mana card that was restricted in vintage in a standard format with madness cards.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Liliana is always the best part of these stories.
It's just Tormenting Voice but bigger, right?
It's just Tormenting Voice but bigger, right?
I literally think she's your favorite because she's written like a IDGAF character
Like the best characters are those kind because they act like real people.
Simply Sarah
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Yes, but I tend to feel the bigger part helps it a lot. Cycling 3 cards is a good deal better than cycling 2 in many cases.
Real people dont act like any of the cardboard cutouts on the gatewatch.
Chandra cast smelt and destroyed the artifacts. I find it super funny why Liliana is afraid of Tezzeret. Jace/Liliana can't destroy artifacts because it's not in their colors. Chandra/Nissa would decimate whatever Tezzeret throws at them. Do we really need a story about two planeswalkers planeswalking to get there? How is it surprising that Bann is next to tezzeret when they work together? I'll give you the fact that on how they met Tezzeret was different but that's not really that important.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Second Harvest clue deck might be a fun fnm deck. Too bad Ghirapur Aether grid rotates.
Limited power house.
This is why I love the Aetherborn.
Are you fucking with me WotC?
Also that art is some Jedi dark souls shit
Zombies and Vampires kill and eat people.
Aetherborn are nerds who go shopping.
goggles rotating out when this enters standard is very sad
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