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[Firemind]

Aight this is my jam right now in testing.

Resisting every janky urge to splash for fevered visions tho

what happened to alchemist man

 

[Ashodin]

hilarious that Flame Lash, a card that is not supposed to see standard play, might see standard play because Red's burn is fucking terrible

 

[twobear]

so where are we rating chandra now, absolute stinking garbage or JUST total garbage?

i'll happily take any copies of that worthless card if you happen to open one!!

 

[phazedplasma]

hilarious that Flame Lash, a card that is not supposed to see standard play, might see standard play because Red's burn is fucking terrible

If chandra dealt 4 dmg to a creature instead of 3 she would be a lot better I think. So many times I want her to deal 4 and shes a dead card because of it.

what happened to alchemist man

Ah i still love it man, but i dunno. Doesnt feel as powerful :\ If we had better burn maybe. I do wanna try a more control like package tho. Stay tuned

 

[Firemind]

it's a 0/3 blocker :/

 

[Ashodin]

If chandra dealt 4 dmg to a creature instead of 3 she would be a lot better I think. So many times I want her to deal 4 and shes a dead card because of it.

???

In my deck Chandra is either Deal 2 damage to target planeswalker (or cast spell), Deal 4 to target creature, or Cast Incendiary Flow

 

[phazedplasma]

???

In my deck Chandra is either Deal 2 damage to target planeswalker (or cast spell), Deal 4 to target creature, or Cast Incendiary Flow

lol wow. Im dumb. Ok she might go back in, we'll see

it's a 0/3 blocker :/

and yeah seeing shit like this and seeing how hard wizards pushes green makes me mad :\

 

[El Topo]

I know no one cares, but Kaladesh is available on Duels. Also new: "Items" to buy, such as full art lands or sleeves.

 

[red13th]

Yes please keep shitting on Chandra so she drops sooner rather than later.

 

[The Technomancer]

Yes please keep shitting on Chandra so she drops sooner rather than later.

Man it sure sucks that...uhm...her ability only adds R to your pool. Now RR, maybe that would be...playable

 

[El Topo]

Man it sure sucks that...uhm...her ability only adds R to your pool. Now RR, maybe that would be...playable

I don't know. If I have to pay 3RR to play her I need a bit more.

 

[Angry Grimace]

The problem is that she can't kill Lootcopter.

 

[El Topo]

The problem is that she can't kill Lootcopter.

I hate that card already.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

so where are we rating chandra now, absolute stinking garbage or JUST total garbage?

i'll happily take any copies of that worthless card if you happen to open one!!

She's super strong imo just not in the standard environment Wizards crafted with Kaladesh.
If there surfaces a deck that is able to stabilise against aggro and be proactive against unfair decks and that deck is able to cast a RR spell then she will be great.

The problem is that she can't kill Lootcopter.

Exactly

I hate that card already.

Exactly

That's not enough to make it even vaguely worse than a straight 8/8.

It's enough to not put all 4 counters on it though against open BB.

 

[Angry Grimace]

an 8/8 for 5 runs straight into grasp of darkness.

That's not enough to make it even vaguely worse than a straight 8/8.

 

[Ashodin]

The problem is that she can't kill Lootcopter.

Smug Copter is the best card ever

Can't you grasp the Gearhulk in response to the counter placement?

 

[Firemind]

she's no koth

 

[The Technomancer]

Smug Copter is the best card ever

Can't you grasp the Gearhulk in response to the counter placement?

Wouldn't you then get to distribute them to your other creatures even as the Gearhulk dies?

 

[Ashodin]

Wouldn't you then get to distribute them to your other creatures even as the Gearhulk dies?

I think you have to make your target choices before that though.

edit, yep

You choose how the counters will be distributed as you put the ability on the stack. Notably, if you choose to put one +1/+1 counter on each of two target creatures, and one of those creatures becomes an illegal target in response, the +1/+1 counter that would’ve gone on that creature is lost. It can’t be put on the remaining legal target.

SO someone could be like "imma make a 8/8 trample" and you be all "lol nope grasp" they don't get shit

 

["God's Beard!"]

I don't know if I'm even winning because GB Rite is good or because Copter and Verdurous Gearhulk are good.

 

[charlequin]

can you give a vehicle haste if its not crewed?

like if i hijack a vehicle, can i crew + attack that turn?

Any permanent can have any permanent keyword, just sometimes it might not be applicable or work as written. In this case, Hijack doesn't say it gains haste if it's a creature, so it gains haste no matter what. That has no effect as long as it's just an artifact, but it will still have the ability later on when you make it a creature.

 

[Ashodin]

I know no one cares, but Kaladesh is available on Duels. Also new: "Items" to buy, such as full art lands or sleeves.

The AI doesn't know how to use vehicles except to pilot other vehicles

 

[red13th]

The AI doesn't know how to use vehicles except to pilot other vehicles

lol this is genius

 

[Ashodin]

lol this is genius

It would end turns wasting time by piloting vehicles

 

[phazedplasma]

Any permanent can have any permanent keyword, just sometimes it might not be applicable or work as written. In this case, Hijack doesn't say it gains haste if it's a creature, so it gains haste no matter what. That has no effect as long as it's just an artifact, but it will still have the ability later on when you make it a creature.

Thanks that makes sense.

 

[El Topo]

The AI doesn't know how to use vehicles except to pilot other vehicles

No, it knows how to use vehicles. I got crushed in storymode twice when the AI curved out perfectly.

 

[Santiako]

All the story slides from the Duels game:

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

^ Have 6 and 7 been posted in the wrong order?

 

[Santiako]

^ Have 6 and 7 been posted in the wrong order?

Maybe? Doesn't really change anything though

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Maybe? Doesn't really change anything though

Posting it in the correct order makes Chandra and the rest of the Jacewatch look slightly less incompetent.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

So what was the point of Tezz and Pia meeting up before or am I misremembering something?

 

[Bandini]

I can't comment on Standard, but I'm loving Chandra in Modern. Been messing around with her in a Jeskai build with Young Peezy, Clique, Snapcaster, Probe, Ancestral, Serum, Bolt, Remand, etc. She messes up Liliana and Nahiri really well and just puts a ton of pressure on the opponent.

I just found out my LGS started doing Sunday casual tournaments where they allow up to 12 proxies so now I'm debating proxying her up or just rolling with Nahiri control. Either way I'm stoked.

EDIT: Here my current list, if anyone cares. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/chandramancer/

 

[Santiako]

I can't comment on Standard, but I'm loving Chandra in Modern. Been messing around with her in a Jeskai build with Young Peezy, Clique, Snapcaster, Probe, Ancestral, Serum, Bolt, Remand, etc. She messes up Liliana and Nahiri really well and just puts a ton of pressure on the opponent.

I just found out my LGS started doing Sunday casual tournaments where they allow up to 12 proxies so now I'm debating proxying her up or just rolling with Nahiri control. Either way I'm stoked.

Yeah, I'm trying to get 2 or 3 to slot into my modern RG Titan Breach deck, she looks fantastic in Modern.

 

[Adaren]

Posting it in the correct order makes Chandra and the rest of the Jacewatch look slightly less incompetent.

Yep. #2 and #4 are also missing. #2 is Liliana spotting Tezz in a crowd, and #4 is Pia being captured.

No Ajani mention, but I'I guessing they just want to give him a proper intro in the AR story.

 

[TheBlackMarvel]

Yep. #2 and #4 are also missing. #2 is Liliana spotting Tezz in a crowd, and #4 is Pia being captured.

No Ajani mention, but I'I guessing they just want to give him a proper intro in the AR story.

AR just makes me think Avacyn Restored.

 

[ultron87]

Tezzeret's shadow looms... because someone let him build a real big statue of himself.

 

[twobear]

black now officially so bad that you can call your deck '5c' even if it contains zero black cards

 

[Firemind]

well technically black isn't a color

 

[OnPoint]

I appreciate the story pictures but we knew mostly all of that already didn't we?

 

[Adaren]

I appreciate the story pictures but we knew mostly all of that already didn't we?

I'm glad Pia lives!

But yeah, no big moments in this one like SOI (Tamiyo meeting Jace) or EMN (Emrakul resolution).

 

[GoutPatrol]

black now officially so bad that you can call your deck '5c' even if it contains zero black cards

Anyone who hates that deck has a black heart.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Should I go for Rafiq Voltron or BB Jace storm in EDH next?

 

[ultron87]

The Mirran Crusader in the sideboard has Protection from Black.

 

[Santiako]

Should I go for Rafiq Voltron or BB Jace storm in EDH next?

Rafiq voltron is so boring. Every game is the exact same.

 

["God's Beard!"]

Glad the main story stuff got posted so I don't have to read those ones. Shame they all can't be as fun as the Aetherborn one.

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Rafiq voltron is so boring. Every game is the exact same.

I assume most of the same applies to BB Jace storm.

 

[Hero]

Rafiq voltron is so boring. Every game is the exact same.

Every Voltron general is like that.

 

[OnPoint]

I'm glad Pia lives!

But yeah, no big moments in this one like SOI (Tamiyo meeting Jace) or EMN (Emrakul resolution).

Yeah. I imagine Tezzeret being there is supposed to be the big surprising story moment of this set.

 

[charlequin]

Bunch of new MTGO changes, including Hearthstone ripoff treasure chests (and, hand in hand with that, an effective cut of Constructed prizes) and a dramatic reduction of redemption window. Best explanation I've seen so far is that in order to make room for MDN they want to slowly bleed out all their existing MTGO players so there isn't a big outrage when they pull the plug, lol.

 

[sgjackson]

Bunch of new MTGO changes, including Hearthstone ripoff treasure chests (and, hand in hand with that, an effective cut of Constructed prizes) and a dramatic reduction of redemption window. Best explanation I've seen so far is that in order to make room for MDN they want to slowly bleed out all their existing MTGO players so there isn't a big outrage when they pull the plug, lol.

Here's a link to the articles where it's discussed.

Edit: Lee Sharpe is saying on Twitter the goal isn't to use chests to cut prizes and if it's not working they'll adjust.