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Magic: the Gathering - Shadows over Innistrad |OT| Blue's Clues
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Simply Sarah
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Because your opponent gets to pick which pile you get so it's much much easier to be denied the card(s) you want.
Very cool, but I agree with the comment stating that this will be a nightmare for new players.
Letting your opponent choose is a nice way to limit the power of the card, but that just means it probably won't make any huge splashes competitively. Probably a decent way to get Delirium up and running in limited though.
Letting your opponent choose is a nice way to limit the power of the card, but that just means it probably won't make any huge splashes competitively. Probably a decent way to get Delirium up and running in limited though.
If you care about your graveyard, absolutely. Worse than Dragonlord's Prerogative most of the time otherwise.
GregLombardi
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Yeah I'm actually legit concerned about this card. I think it may be banned eventually, and not for obvious reasons. We'll see.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Why not X = library => make 2 piles, pile A: Lab Maniac, pile B: the rest
The speed and flexibility are great, graveyard interaction cards might make it even better, but letting your opponent make the penultimate choice should at least make it difficult to just include the card in an arbitrary control deck. I doubt it will be great.
divisionbyzorro
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Steam Augury saw exactly 0 constructed play. Epiphany will see the same.
Simply Sarah
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I find that unlikely. Steam Augury didn't exactly make a big splash and if they were worried about this they'd have made it an X cost Truth or Tale. Letting an opponent choose really limits the power of the card and until X starts getting larger it's fairly easy to get denied a desirable result. There are better ways to dump cards into your graveyard.
Yup. Steam Augury is better, tho monoblue actually makes a big difference.
Augury's a fantastic cube card tho.
Giant Panda
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I think it'll be a role player in a control deck if one exists.
Yeah, you need to spend 5 mana on this to equal Steam Augury, and even then that's not great. You'd have to ramp up to really high numbers to get a decent card out of this, and at that point you're better off with just normal draw spells, like Dragonlord's Perogative.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
"Jace, definetely not the Mindsculptor"
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
"Jace, definetely not the Mindsculptor"
my reaction
Gonna be degenerate with doubling season though
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Olivia is really good though while simultaneously being a lot worse than Olivia Voldaren
Wow! Really strong pair of cards right there!
I can't believe how that loyalty value is on Jace. Can he seriously bounce two guys and stay alive as long as he doesn't take damage? Nuts. Scry -> Draw seems really good too.
Olivia looks great as well, especially with that aggressive 3 mana CMC. Too bad she can't ever give herself haste, but then we'd be looking at a real constructed monster. Good thing her ability doesn't cost any mana to use. Wouldn't want to spend anything else extra while chaining Madness dudes off of each other.
I can't believe how that loyalty value is on Jace. Can he seriously bounce two guys and stay alive as long as he doesn't take damage? Nuts. Scry -> Draw seems really good too.
Olivia looks great as well, especially with that aggressive 3 mana CMC. Too bad she can't ever give herself haste, but then we'd be looking at a real constructed monster. Good thing her ability doesn't cost any mana to use. Wouldn't want to spend anything else extra while chaining Madness dudes off of each other.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
everytime I hear "new Jace" I keep hoping for an Architect of Thought reprint
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Olivia was supposed to be gender switched Dracula
divisionbyzorro
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That Jace is very good. Then again, I thought that Ob Nixilis Reignited was bonkers, and he's seen zero play, and this is very similar to that.
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"Jace, definetely not the Mindsculptor"
"BLUE" the card
Olivia seems awesome though.
Well, Jace's +1 is just straight up better, and -2 is way better than -3 with that loyalty. Plus he's blue, which is never a bad thing.
I can see Jace doing quite will competitively (shocker).
divisionbyzorro
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Yeah - it means that you can tap out for it, bounce a creature, let them replay the creature, then bounce it again with mana up. Then you can start drawing cards.
I think it's a really good Standard-playable planeswalker - it just needs the right shell.
A Serious Man
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Tamiyo, you are our only mono-blue hope.
Jace's ultimate is much better though and scrying is obviously better than losing a life.
You're right though, the design is so uninspired. I was expecting more than Nixon 2.0.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Confimed alive via art on Sorin's emo art.Probably dead
divisionbyzorro
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Much, much less annoying Sigarda:
shrapnelmagnet
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Be a real dick: Reflector Mage, next turn Jace and +1, next turn Jace -2 your own Reflector Mage and recast. Or some annoying shit
Until Nahiri harbrings her death or planar tears her in half or some dumb shit because she's a vengeful old walker.
ok probably not really
C'mon people, there will certainly be another Tamiyo card at some point. But anyone who honestly thought Jace, Face of Shadows, wouldn't get a card was fooling themselves.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Stop pushing angel human, it always felt so weird when trying to build around.
divisionbyzorro
Member
Because she's part of a cycle.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
lol @ Sigarda not having hexproof herself.
Feels like the ideas of Sigarda taking over for Avacyn might be on the right track, though it's hardly surprising after that story last week.
Also, Jace story up
Also, Jace story up
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Huge fan of this set so far. Some powerful cards and some really awesome design. Refreshing after the clunker that was the last block. Wasn't a big fan of Innistrad but I like how they're doing more this time with transform. Also love how much worse this Jace is than JTMS and its still good.
Giant Panda
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That Olivia art is pretty bad. All 3 three cards though seem good, but nothing outstanding.
She doesn't have hexproof this time though?
Angels granting hexproof is a dumb concept anyway. They should grant indestructible instead of a troll ability.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Oh reddit
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
She's probably a Human tribal lord since from a generic midrange perspective there's no real reason to play Sigarda over Avacyn.
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