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Magic: the Gathering - Shadows over Innistrad |OT| Blue's Clues
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WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Today, probably at around 11 EST.
April B&R Changes:
Announcement Date: April 4, 2016
Effective Date: April 8, 2016
Magic Online Effective Date: April 13, 2016
Modern:
Eye of Ugin is banned.
Ancestral Vision is unbanned.
Sword of the Meek is unbanned.
Vintage:
Lodestone Golem is restricted.
Some unexpected but welcome changes in there, a double unbanning is awesome :O
Announcement Date: April 4, 2016
Effective Date: April 8, 2016
Magic Online Effective Date: April 13, 2016
Modern:
Eye of Ugin is banned.
Ancestral Vision is unbanned.
Sword of the Meek is unbanned.
Vintage:
Lodestone Golem is restricted.
Some unexpected but welcome changes in there, a double unbanning is awesome :O
divisionbyzorro
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Holy fuck.
About fucking time Visions and Sword of the Meek were unbanned. Should have happened years ago.
Edit: Also the right choice to hit Eldrazi, since because also fuck Tron.
B/R Update specifically says AV is coming off because BBE isn't in the format.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Glad to see they didn't kill Eldrazi outright.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Holy fucking shit Thopter Sword
I am very displeased about this.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
divisionbyzorro
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Shops ruined VSL S3. I'm pretty sure that had a lot to do with this.
I remember the time when Thopter Foundry and Dark Depths were in the same deck. Oh the glory days.
It's because they're in the "ban everything but necro" phase re: Workshop.
This. The card is broken as fuck, but they don't want to axe the four thousand dollar problem and piss people off, so they're in an awkward spot.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I may open up BFZ or OGW as prize packs instead then if the value isn't there. I'm sure I'll open plenty of SOI from drafting anyways. Yeah and that enchantment seems really good. White seems pretty strong in this set so far.
Joe Molotov
Member
Everyone bum rushing Thopter Sword.
divisionbyzorro
Member
It's so weird to unban two key pieces of control shells at the same time. AV makes a lot of sense, but why unban SotM in the same announcement?
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Yup, 50 bucks across the board.
GamerKingFaiz
Member
Man, the speculators move fast. Not even an hour after the B&R announcement and TCG is pretty much sold out of Ancestral Visions...
"God's Beard!"
Member
blue moon with Thing in the Ice, baby
Ooccoo
Member
This is a reason why this game sucks now. Too many kids playing it like stocks and "investment." Kitchen table Magic (Cube mostly) is where the fun is at for me. And it doesn't cost much to build. Cards shouldn't cost dozens of dollars, even Richard Garfield agrees it's not healthy.
Yes, "speculators"
Completely impossible that every single magic player who didn't have a set immediately rushed TCGP, Ebay, and Amzon when the announcement hit.
Must have been those evil, evil speculators.
The game has always worked like this w/ the card market. It's just public-facing now because of the internet. This is nothing new.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Ancestral Vision isn't actually good anyways
Well, back to 4 Etched main and 3 Grudge side for the foreseeable future. Don't really care about missing out on picking up pieces since control always felt weak in modern and I doubt some unbannings will do much to change it.
Too many different decks attacking from different angles to think you can be a card short for the first 4 turns not to mention how bad of a topdeck it can be if you need answers for opposing pressure.
Sword will be better but is still broken up by artifact removal which is everywhere already and will be even worse in the upcoming months.
Too many different decks attacking from different angles to think you can be a card short for the first 4 turns not to mention how bad of a topdeck it can be if you need answers for opposing pressure.
Sword will be better but is still broken up by artifact removal which is everywhere already and will be even worse in the upcoming months.
phazedplasma
Member
Sooooo humans anyone?
SigmasonicX
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Good to see that Eldrazi Temple was allowed to live. Ancestral Visions unban was expected, but Sword of the Meek is a real surprise. I'm not too familiar with how its deck actually plays out, but if it relies on Thopter Foundry, and the most it does by turn 3 is pump out three tokens and gain 3 life, and Kolaghan's Command still sees a lot of play, then it shouldn't get too out of control, right?
Making Magic - OK, it turns out we still haven't actually seen the new beginner product. MaRo's making an article about them next month. Presumably, the basic dual lands are going to be reprinted into Standard every year by the beginner products.
The other interesting thing is that they have a group of artists camp out for about a month twice every year, where they spend the entire time just coming up with designs, many of which end up in the world guide for a block. The Gitrog was one of the random designs that came out of that camp.
Making Magic - OK, it turns out we still haven't actually seen the new beginner product. MaRo's making an article about them next month. Presumably, the basic dual lands are going to be reprinted into Standard every year by the beginner products.
The other interesting thing is that they have a group of artists camp out for about a month twice every year, where they spend the entire time just coming up with designs, many of which end up in the world guide for a block. The Gitrog was one of the random designs that came out of that camp.
charlequin
Banned
Periodic reminder (since I had to be reminded of this too) that the card is "Ancestral Vision" with no S.
Not arguing, just wondering what you're basing the conclusion on. I thought Menendian did a decent job of arguing on his last podcast that neither Petition nor Gush decks are really in a dominant position or winning an insane amount.
(Also not sure what people are thinking the metagame is going to be composed of if they nuke Storm decks, Gush decks, and Workshop decks all at once.)
When Necro costs a thousand dollars it really limits your options, pretty much.
Because control sucks in Modern and I don't think by default AV and SotM enable the same strategies so they both might help improve diversity a bit (and neither one is risky at all.)
lol no
Not arguing, just wondering what you're basing the conclusion on. I thought Menendian did a decent job of arguing on his last podcast that neither Petition nor Gush decks are really in a dominant position or winning an insane amount.
(Also not sure what people are thinking the metagame is going to be composed of if they nuke Storm decks, Gush decks, and Workshop decks all at once.)
When Necro costs a thousand dollars it really limits your options, pretty much.
Because control sucks in Modern and I don't think by default AV and SotM enable the same strategies so they both might help improve diversity a bit (and neither one is risky at all.)
lol no
"God's Beard!"
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Yeah, when I met Peter Mohrbacher a couple years back that's mostly what we talked about. He was one of the concept guys for Theros.
Attleborotaco
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I dont know many older cards, but what card is Necro and why does it cost $1000?
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