I really wish at the very least they went the goron route and made the button a toggle for swimming so you could adjust the camera.
That said I still like the new swimming because I have better control over it in smaller spaces.
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Majora's Mask 3D |OT| Remakes are a Nice Thing to Have Heh, heh
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I really wish at the very least they went the goron route and made the button a toggle for swimming so you could adjust the camera.
That said I still like the new swimming because I have better control over it in smaller spaces.
I never failed the beaver race in the original or VC version but it took me several tries on 3ds.
I always hated the water part of the game... stuck at the bit where
Gonna try it in a few hours, but right now my save's at a point where I'm dangerously close to running out of time...
you have to find that golden seahorse to guide you through Pinnacle Rock to get the last Zora eggs... I just can't remember how to do it. Could have sword you need the eye of truth?
TheMoon
Member
I think what you're doing "wrong" is not talking to people enough. You need to realize that most of the events happen or trigger expository hints when talking to people. And it changes depending on the time of day or location. The way you could notice the bomb shop lady is when you try to get up to that heart piece in the tree on the night of the first day and you notice the thief hiding in the corner a long time before the hit happens. The Bombers also give you hints. Other people give you nudges towards other quests, too. Talk to the Postman at various times to get info on what he's up to, etc. It's all about talking to people at various times. Don't just talk to them once and then never again. That's a big mistake. Talk to them with a mask on, talk to them after you've triggered another (bigger) event or something that might be related to them in some way (p-p-p-paaaaper). Use the schedule and the alarm system to figure out when they are where and what might have been a problem you could solve for them. It's all possible without a guide. This is a world to "live" in. That requires patience and willingness to commit to a degree.
Swimming in the original MM was glorious. Swimming in this version is one of the two major complaints I have about this remake.
Water Temples/Dungeons in Zelda I always hated...
As for other games I really liked water levels in the old Tomb Raider games. Water was always something dangerous because you have never known if there were enemies or some sort of stream. Or you were just running out of air. But those puzzles involving water areas weren't annoying like in Zelda games :/
John Kowalski
Banned
why is the woodfall temple so creepy! what's with the random screaming, black blobs and blood water :\
fuck this is gonna be hard
fuck this is gonna be hard
I'm surprised, I thought the only change was that, for no reason whatsoever, swimming fast consumes magic. Unless there's something else, too? Cause while it does sound like a stupid change, it doesn't sound like something that'd single-handedly turn it from glorious to bad.
Well okay, there are some okay or maybe even good water levels, but they are SO rare. Never played the older TR games (or any TR games for that matter) so I can't say anything about them.
RE: knowing when and where different things happen:
If you were playing this in a vacuum, with no prior knowledge (so no Nintendo Power dropping tips leading up to release, no communication with other players, etc), you'd still figure out everything... eventually. But it'd take a while.
The Gossip Stones all offer hints once you talk to them with the Mask of Truth. This requires you to complete the Swamp Spider House, which stands in plain sight in the middle of the swamp. Once you get the Mask of Truth, you're told it can communicate with Gossip Stones. So you start talking to them, and they start telling you about different events.
The Bombers now tell you about events, as well. They'll run up to you and share a rumor they've heard, which is then logged in your notebook as a reminder to investigate it further.
And as a general rule of thumb, in a game where the NPCs have different schedules on different days, it's wise to check in with each NPC each night and each day. See where they are, and what they're doing. Maybe try talking to them with different masks. You'll no doubt add more clues to your notebook.
There are other context clues. When the worker removes the boulder in front of Romani Ranch on the third day, you'll arrive to find Romani all messed up. You take note that something must have happened during the preceding days. So once you have the Powder Keg, you go back to see them before the incident. And you're told what to do from there.
Or take Sakon the thief. If you fail to stop him from mugging the old lady on one cycle, you'll hear about what happened from her son, IIRC. You'll find out she was robbed in transit. Deduction shows it had to happen on the night of the first day. You look around town at nightfall, and come across the shady-looking man hiding in North Clock Town. Stand guard during the night and you'll catch him in the act.
The hand in the toilet is probably the most inexplicable, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Gossip Stone and/or Bomber that tells you about it.
If you were playing this in a vacuum, with no prior knowledge (so no Nintendo Power dropping tips leading up to release, no communication with other players, etc), you'd still figure out everything... eventually. But it'd take a while.
The Gossip Stones all offer hints once you talk to them with the Mask of Truth. This requires you to complete the Swamp Spider House, which stands in plain sight in the middle of the swamp. Once you get the Mask of Truth, you're told it can communicate with Gossip Stones. So you start talking to them, and they start telling you about different events.
The Bombers now tell you about events, as well. They'll run up to you and share a rumor they've heard, which is then logged in your notebook as a reminder to investigate it further.
And as a general rule of thumb, in a game where the NPCs have different schedules on different days, it's wise to check in with each NPC each night and each day. See where they are, and what they're doing. Maybe try talking to them with different masks. You'll no doubt add more clues to your notebook.
There are other context clues. When the worker removes the boulder in front of Romani Ranch on the third day, you'll arrive to find Romani all messed up. You take note that something must have happened during the preceding days. So once you have the Powder Keg, you go back to see them before the incident. And you're told what to do from there.
Or take Sakon the thief. If you fail to stop him from mugging the old lady on one cycle, you'll hear about what happened from her son, IIRC. You'll find out she was robbed in transit. Deduction shows it had to happen on the night of the first day. You look around town at nightfall, and come across the shady-looking man hiding in North Clock Town. Stand guard during the night and you'll catch him in the act.
The hand in the toilet is probably the most inexplicable, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Gossip Stone and/or Bomber that tells you about it.
Funny that you mentioned the first one; i remember clearly bumping into that one on my own by accident on my first day on my first playthrough. I remember it as one of the easiest events to find.
Thanks. Perhaps I am looking at the bomber's notebook as a guide and I shouldn't be. It appears to mostly be a record of things that happened in the "past" but offers little info about the "future". For example,
each consecutive day you complete the deku challenge it records it in the book, but it starts off as a single item, then adds to the chain each day you pass. Not until you do all 3 in a row will it show you the fourth event, getting the heart piece.
Yeah, there will be times when the Bombers don't have new information, but after a while, one of them will scuttle up to you and offer you a tip when you talk to them.
It's not, but helpful in terms of the hints you can get and for some heart pieces.
You'll need all of the masks if you want to ultimately get the Fierce Deity Mask, the best "ultimate weapon" in any Zelda ever.
Also, the Mask of Truth is great. It lets you talk to Gossip Stones, which tip you off to events. The mask also allows you to read the minds of small animals.
That mind-reading ability will assist you with getting a certain Piece of Heart...
No but you should get every mask anyway.
Solid SOAP
Member
Every mask is essential to getting the final, secret mask.
You cannot complete the game unless you get every mask before going to the final battle.
Sure, you can beat the final boss - but the game is not complete until you have
The Fierce Deity Mask
Not getting all the masks? You are cheating yourself and you are missing out on literally half of the games content. The dungeons and main quest is only half the game in Majoras Mask.
RobFox64tm
Member
Gyroscope aiming made the octorock shooting gallery super easy. Did it in two tries. The honey and darling mini games weren't nearly as hard as I remember either. Those were always the hardest pieces of heart to get for me, so I should have no trouble getting them all this time around.
calc84maniac
Member
Here's a massive time-saving tip for Snowhead:
If you fall down in the central room, just transform into Deku Link and walk into a lava pit. You'll be teleported to the last door you walked through.
Snowhead tip: From the central pillar room, the RED DOOR leads to a four-way intersection. From there, turn RIGHT. Look at your map and look for the staircase leading from one room to the next. Follow these stairs to work your way back up to the top of the pillar room where you have the ramps to jump across with the Goron roll.
Also: Don't miss the elevator room. From the crossroads room I mentioned earlier, turn LEFT. This is the room with the long ramp and the ice sculptures blowing freezing winds on either side. Roll-jump across it and go straight through the door in front of you. You'll be in a square room with a bombchu running around. See that raised platform in the middle? Hop on it and shoot the frozen eye switch with the Fire Arrow. The platform becomes an elevator.
I overlooked this for the longest time. It's essential, however. Once you raise the pillar in the central room, you won't be able to progress unless you use the elevator.
Also: Don't miss the elevator room. From the crossroads room I mentioned earlier, turn LEFT. This is the room with the long ramp and the ice sculptures blowing freezing winds on either side. Roll-jump across it and go straight through the door in front of you. You'll be in a square room with a bombchu running around. See that raised platform in the middle? Hop on it and shoot the frozen eye switch with the Fire Arrow. The platform becomes an elevator.
I overlooked this for the longest time. It's essential, however. Once you raise the pillar in the central room, you won't be able to progress unless you use the elevator.
Not only does collecting every mask get you the Fierce Deity Mask, but it increases the number of scenes you see in the ending. If you don't have all of the masks, there will be blacked-out scenes. So in other words, you need every mask to see the complete ending.
Heheheh I know exactly which piece of heart you are talking about. I tried doing that minigame with the lens of truth, but to no avail.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I was planning on getting all the masks. I just didn't even know about the Spider House, so I was wondering whether or not the Mask was necessary to complete the game, seeing as how the Spider House seemed like an "optional" sidequest. Obviously, I want to do all the optional sidequests.
You know, I had never thought of that
I just finished The Anju and Kafei sidequest. It's very satisfying, but kinda stressful since you don't always know the exact time to do certain things. I'll take on Stone Tower next.
About that postman.
About that postman.
He sure is dedicated to his work, but when he finally escapes he only has, like, 2 minutes left. I don't think he'll be anywhere safe in time, poor dude.
Heheheh I know exactly which piece of heart you are talking about. I tried doing that minigame with the lens of truth, but to no avail.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I was planning on getting all the masks. I just didn't even know about the Spider House, so I was wondering whether or not the Mask was necessary to complete the game, seeing as how the Spider House seemed like an "optional" sidequest. Obviously, I want to do all the optional sidequests.
Anything required to complete the game is something that you will immediately need and will be in your face.
Ahhhhh haha, I know exactly what you're talking about. That's hilarious.
EroticSushi
Member
That beaver race for the piece of heart is a real pain in the ass. My hand was cramping by the end of it.
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Finished up the Woodfall temple, including all the stray fairies, last night. Enjoying the game a lot more than when I played it back in college.
Professor Beef
Banned
SMH Kafei, how does it take you hours to get to Clock Town? I got there in seconds!
TheMoon
Member
When the HMS gives you the notebook he specifically says the bombers keep track of things around town and I think they tell you about that themselves upon your initiation, too. Paying attention to what people are telling you is key here.
AzureTranquility95
Banned
Sakon maybe tried to stop him again? That and Kafei doesn't have all the tools that Link does in order to get to Clock Town in seconds.
AzureTranquility95
Banned
The more you play a dungeon the more stuff gets embedded in your brain. Eventually you'll reach a point where you can memorize most if not all of the stray fairy locations as well... except for Stone Tower Temple Stray Fairies because fuck Stone Tower temple Stray Fairies.
Dat purple hair doe
I think it's just the fact that you have to
go back in a third time
upside down
He's Ravio's long-lost cousin.
Yeah, I'm interested to play Stone Tower again. I remember pretty much nothing about this game, dungeons especially, but I remember needing to spend multiple cycles on Stone Tower alone.
On 3DS version:
Woodfall - Double Magic
Snowhead - Great Spin Attack
Great Bay - Double Health
Stone Tower - Great Fairy Sword
balladofwindfishes
Member
Probably because they're not really a circus, just a troupe of entertainers.
Professor Beef
Banned
That's beside the point!
Welp, good job Grezzo.
mask anywhere: https://vine.co/v/Ox2mWOAZ90K
Fierce Deity
Pretty sure you could glitch that in the original game. Since it uses the same code, with just a few edits for extra features, the glitches in the original game all stayed.