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The best Zelda item.
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Majora's Mask 3DS announced!
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The best Zelda item.
Woot:
Link to the hueg full quality version: http://images.nintendolife.com/news...lda_majoras_mask_3d/attachment/5/original.jpg
(I lowered the white levels a bit for my wallpaper)
Link to the hueg full quality version: http://images.nintendolife.com/news...lda_majoras_mask_3d/attachment/5/original.jpg
(I lowered the white levels a bit for my wallpaper)
The Dutch Slayer
Member
thanks for that !
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I've loved every Zelda I've played.
For different reasons. SS has a lot of unnecessary padding. But that isn't unusual for Zelda. All of them could have entire scenarios cut and be better games for it. More cohesive.
I'm sure I'll love MM in spite of its quirks. Overall, there hasn't been a bad LoZ yet.
For different reasons. SS has a lot of unnecessary padding. But that isn't unusual for Zelda. All of them could have entire scenarios cut and be better games for it. More cohesive.
I'm sure I'll love MM in spite of its quirks. Overall, there hasn't been a bad LoZ yet.
It's a remake.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
Which is really annoying.
esmith08734
Member
Only 3D Zelda I haven't played. That boxart is simply amazing.
James Scott
Banned
It's probably why I enjoyed Persona as much as did as well seeing how much I liked MM as a kid
It's a weird combination of remaster and remake. The character models are new, but some things look very similar.
James Scott
Banned
sorry for double post
It's not. It's an enhanced port.
It's built upon the same code as the N64 version. A remake would have been built from the ground up.
http://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_3D
I know there's not much to go on from that page, but the 3DS format has recently been decrypted and it's been proven that a large amount of OOT 3D was ported over from the N64 version. Not only that, but the 3DS version has most of the exact same glitches as the N64 original, right down to the bizarrely obscure ones. Why? Same basic code. It's a port, albeit a greatly enhanced one with new character models and textures. Not a remake (Metroid:Zero Mission is a remake)
The only part of Ocarina 3D that can be classed as a legitimate remake are the previously pre-rendered inside areas (the house interiors), because they had no other option. That's literally it. Everything else is ported from the N64 original.
You make a compelling argument, but it's a remake.
It's not. A remake by definition is remaking the game from the ground up. Like Metroid: Zero Mission, for example.
Ocarina of Time 3D is not that. It's an enhanced port. It uses the same code from the N64 version and builds on it - I'm not sure why there is any kind of debate here.
I do apologize if this is getting into a heated discussion though. I will refrain from now on.
if you're feeling lucky you can attempt the dungeon, I did that, it is not annoying, why would you remove one of the most interesting parts of MM?
akidnamededdy
Banned
Seconded.
Conkerkid11
Member
Is this what happens when we base an entire thread's discussion off a single trailer for a game we've already played?
I'm excited too, but is this thread seriously 30+ pages of arguing about whether this is a port or a remake, and whether or not they should include an easier difficulty for those who can't handle the entire game's most important mechanic?
I'm excited too, but is this thread seriously 30+ pages of arguing about whether this is a port or a remake, and whether or not they should include an easier difficulty for those who can't handle the entire game's most important mechanic?
to be fair, what else should we talk about?
it's fun to argue about pointless stuff
KojiKnight
Member
Also arguments over which is better, Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask. (Majora's Mask is better.) lol
Madison Heights near Lynchburg?
This is going to happen for every MM3D thread, guarantee it. OoT3D pre-release threads were the exact same way -- excitement initially and then a select few people started to engage in the "is it a port or remake" argument. It really made OoT3D threads prior to release unbearable. Who cares, the game is getting updated character models and texture work + consistent framerate which are big improvements for a game like MM (especially framerate, which was always below 30 FPS and sometimes even 20 FPS).
KojiKnight
Member
Do note the term 'preserved' and not 'recreated'
GAF,
Made this wallpaper for me and thought of dropping it here.
PUMPED AS HELL TO PLAY THIS FROM START TO FINISH. (I've never ever done it even if I know how the game goes).
Thanks, using it as my background now
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
It was annoying back when I played it at launch. Hell, it was one of the biggest complaints by everyone back in the day. Not the time mechanic itself, but tedium of rewinding time.
How is it physically possible to even make an argument out of this
Well, argument might be a bit lenient cause you're not actually making any arguments but whatever.
Hilarious what comes of many non-OT threads when they're let to grow too big.
Yeah cause disliking a mechanic means you're spoiled. Actually wait a second let's take saving out of every game man that'll show those spoiled little fucks.
Get real dude.
I disagree - it is THE reason Majora's Mask is still the most inventive and daring of the entire series, and the single reason why it has such a large cult following.
Just play the Inverted Song of Time and you'll be just fine.
For some reason, this whole release announcement is tempting me to continue my Hero Mode game of Skyward Sword, I was quite far. D:
KojiKnight
Member
It's almost like people want to discuss the technical aspects of a game in a tech minded forum like GAF is... There are technical definitions as to what is and is not a port...
When OoT3D was released, we didn't have access to the game files (it was encrypted). So that left room for debate. Now we do. We can tell whether a game is a port or a remake based on that.
There is no guarantee that MM isn't completely remade from the ground up, but it would be exceedingly silly of them to do so since they have the updated/enhanced engine from OoT3D all ready to go... so in that sense there is still wiggle room to debate it, but it's just very unlikely.
Tempesta di Fuoco
Banned
The single reason it has a cult following is because of all the warping, rewinding and bank depositing you had to do?
They need to streamline the shit out of rewinding.
PR bullshit. We have proof from the decrypted ROM itself that it's an enhanced port. There's no arguing it.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Same issue as with OoT 3D. Sadly, the game would be near unplayable on the tiny 3DS screen without the lightning changes.
I really dislike the new brightness of the game :/
I really dislike the new brightness of the game :/
I think it looks a lot better this way.
Michigan, actually
I must remind myself that the world is bigger than the east coast states.
ordered my copy! I gave a friend my N64 copy and they lost it so i haven't played this for years where as i've revisited almost all the other zelda since so very excited to replay.
Someone already mentioned it but i've been listening to this a lot today, great remix of some of the OST by Theophany
Someone already mentioned it but i've been listening to this a lot today, great remix of some of the OST by Theophany
CANNOT WAIT. I just took my baby sisters 3DS and picked up smash bros, i've never really had the opportunity to play these older Zelda games, only Twilight princess and that game got me hooked on Zelda forever.
Finally a chance to play Majoras mask, on that note I should pick up OOT as well. If only I could get myself to stop playing COD and finish Windwaker on my wii u
Finally a chance to play Majoras mask, on that note I should pick up OOT as well. If only I could get myself to stop playing COD and finish Windwaker on my wii u
Kraatu
Member
Considering how dark screens produce a lot of ghosting on 3d I might agree on that.
Can you suggest some specific ideas?
Like, what's wrong with the bank? It allowed you to exceed your wallet by thousands and thousands of rupees, and it felt cool "saving" your rupees by visiting West Clock Town at the end of each cycle. And what's wrong with the warping? It allowed you to fast-travel to dungeon entrances and devote a full 72 hours to a dungeon on a new cycle. It also made it easier to get to places where things were about to happen.
Oh yeah actually, the ghosting in OOT3D in some areas (deku tree) is horrendous even on a 3DS XL.
James Scott
Banned
I don't know, even if it has a lot of the ROM inside the game, it a lot more than a simple enhanced port
Just look at the image above
I really dislike the new brightness of the game :/
damn, forget about the brightness, the new Gyrorg model is incredible.
can't wait to see Goht.
KojiKnight
Member
Nothing about that article or the Iwata asks states that the game is a remake, in fact...
That essentially proves even then it was a port. Bugs are unintentional quirks of programming, a remake wouldn't/shouldn't have the same bugs. They wanted to get rid of the bugs, as in the ones in the game. Not recreate them.