Daniel Jackson
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Majora's Mask 3DS announced!
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Disgaeamad
Member
I cannot fucking believe this is something a real person just typed.
lostinblue
Banned
That's a given.
Travel back to June 2014...
Grezzo seeking new staffers:
Source: http://nintendoeverything.com/grezz...asks-would-you-like-to-make-a-legend-with-us/
Hero of Time 3rd Game.
Spring is until June 20th.
Hmm, the Special Edition is £45 on the UK store, how much would that usually be in ? I'm aware that it's roughly 60, but I don't know how Nintendo does the conversion. Wouldn't really mind 60 for this SE to be honest, which probably means the regular version will be 50?
Watch it being the release date... God damn it.
I meant june 30th.
I agree with him. I have a huge dislike for games that force endless cutscenes and excessive "cinematic" bullshit at you. Games that allow you to discover the world like yourself such as Dark Souls and Majora's Mask are far, far better for myself.
That'd be amazing. Great idea.
ratcliffja
Member
I certainly hope so. I just hate that Nintendo still won't add a streaming-to-TV option. Hopefully their next gen platforms will.
Nintendo always charges the top end. So they may charge £40 for a game and everyone else may only charge around £30. So if you happy with the regular version don't go with what Nintendo themselves are charging. Since the LE is usually limited to them and GAME you're pretty much stuck with the price they are asking.
heh, it would make no difference to me. hell, I'm going to be pretty much going to be playing this shit 24/7 when its released. fuck suspend mode, and sleep in real life along with other pointless distractions. this is majora's sodding mask
I personally think £45 with free shipping is fair for what we're getting. Considering America isn't getting it at all.
TheMoon
Member
Because that's an easy and legal alternative, if his wife simply playing the game herself isn't an option...
SO PSYCHED for this
when will they announce new modes/features?
also please bring Four Swords back to the eShop, why remove it? I WILL PAY FOR IT GOT DAYUM (its not as good as FS for the GameCube but it's fun)!
maybe four swords adventures could be a great 3DS port? work really well, 4player local/online, bottom screen = gba screen!
when will they announce new modes/features?
also please bring Four Swords back to the eShop, why remove it? I WILL PAY FOR IT GOT DAYUM (its not as good as FS for the GameCube but it's fun)!
maybe four swords adventures could be a great 3DS port? work really well, 4player local/online, bottom screen = gba screen!
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I know!
I am very excited.
I started becoming very sensitive to low framerates and wild fluctuations right around the DC era. I start getting motion sickness if they are on the extreme low end, or fall to the low end. Honestly my biggest problem with Dragon's Dogma is how wildly the framerate fluctuates between 30fps down to like 5 fps during demanding scenes.
Majora was never that bad, but it was enough in all incarnations that I could never get very far. The other point was... and this is graphic whorish... I couldn't get past the low poly look that everything had. I was completely willing to leave the N64 generation behind when I picked up my DC, PS2, Cube, and Xbox.
ratcliffja
Member
Right, but I was just using it as one example out of many. The gameplay may have aged well for Majora's Mask, but the graphics and frame rate certainly have not.
Darn anyone able to recommend a good one here? Could take me an age to find. Thanks for the heads up though rich.
Calling out emulation as "not legal" is not only incorrect (discussion of emulation is openly welcomed on GAF), but will also lead to arguments on here...as it always does.
But even so, I wouldn't ever recommend someone the N64 version now that the 3DS version is confirmed. OOT 3DS is by far the definitive version of OOT, and MM 3D will be the same.
And you can get a free Mario or Luigi hat with it as well which is quite nice.
Still going to give it some thought though. If I can get the regular for much a decent price I may swap out. All I really like is the pin badge.
I wish I knew that before I ordered the bloody thing...ah well!
My only reservation is that I may not get this special edition until after release day...as Nintendo's UK Store is slow as fuck. In that case, I may just buy it digitally on the night and then sell the standard case I get in the DX edition for £30 brand new on ebay (it'll be sealed inside). That way, I still get the game on launch night, and I also get the limited edition shit for the grand total of £15.
seems like the best option imo!
I figured that if there are two split opinions about the save and time management system in Majora's Mask, both should have a mode that caters to them. One that limits the impact and one that really forces you to feel the crunch.
A Hero Mode of Majora's Mask really should up the threat of the moon itself. As people have said, getting mooned isn't really a danger in normal play. So make it one in Hero Mode. Imagine setting your 3DS down, and picking it back up, only to see the moon crashing cutscene. (And the first time it happens, it displays a "helpful" little tip: "Time does not pause while the 3DS is suspended in Hero Mode.")
Majora's Mask is allowed to be different.
we still got the superior box art here though:
classy and fitting with the theme. also, no obnoxious border on the right hand side, unlike the NTSC one.
Well they certainly weren't around back in 2000. It felt very lonely to be a MM fan
Oh boy, I'm not looking forward to the backlash
Hopefully people will give it a chance. The thing is that the game is about repetition, and many do not like repetition, they hate it, is the one thing that people complain the most about the franchise. That is stale, that is the same temples, same way to get items, etc, etc. They hate stuff like the Temple of the Ocean King when in its core gameplay is very similar to MM, you have to redo stuff over and over but with more things you gain you can redo them much faster. But you have to redo them anyway.
I think this makes it darker, or, lets say, more "mature", in the actual sense of the word. You deal with personal stuff and specially with death in a way few games do.
Disgaeamad
Member
The existence of something you don't like doesn't make it 'forced'. Please get a grip on the real world.
I'm so jelly of you PAL dudes with everything related to Majora's Mask.
Let me explain this in depth if you don't understand.
Story and atmosphere done right: Cutscenes are brief and minimal. Deeper parts of the story are learned through interacting with characters at the players will and exploring the environment. This way those who want to know more about the games story can look at every environment in detail and talk to every NPC. This is the interactive way to do story and is more subtle.
Story and atmosphere done wrong: Cutscenes can be long and interrupt the players current actions, sometimes even a simple thing like opening a door takes control away from the player to show a cut scene of the door opening.. The player has to sift through a lot of dialogue, whether they want to or not, because the developer is forcing the story on them. The developer would rather flat out tell you the story (and make you hear it) than let the player learn more about it on their own.
Ocarina and Majora's Mask are better games for letting the player learn and figure out the deeper parts of the stories by their own will. It feels interactive and reminds me of what makes gaming so different from film. When you just flat out tell the player every part of the story, and force them to listen, it becomes dull and boring.
The construction man's monster son and the Skull Kid in Ocarina of Time come to mind. Majora's Mask is literally filled with all these unique special stories that the player discovers on their own.
It's darker, more mature, and definately deals with peoples personal struggles definately as you say - but given the fact that Termina and it's inhabitants are saved and hope is restored makes the game not really dark.
I mean, of course it could be dark, it depends on how the writers intended it to be seen and how it is perceived. I haven't played the game to completion, but I have seen the ending on the
moon
Either way, I do wish Nintendo would create a Zelda similar to Majoras Mask, Ocarina of Time and Links Awakening - the way they dealt with various themes is subtly fantastic and is definatley missing amongst more recent Zelda games.
Disgaeamad
Member
I understood full well what you meant. But again, the existence of something you don't like doesn't make it 'forced'. It's like me saying MM has forced dungeons because the majority of them are awful.
I always loved Ocarina of Time's PAL box. That thing looks fantastic. With that gold logo on the black background it really looked like something special. The Japanese boxart was really great too, though.
The American one on the other hand...
TheMoon
Member
I never directly called out emulation as anything, just explained my recommendation as what it is. What you infer from that has nothing to do with what I said^^
I'm also not recommending him the N64 original over the 3DS version. He wants to play MM "for" his wife. Since you can't do that really with a 3DS, I recommended the quick, easy, painless and perfectly acceptable method of VC. I played the game for the first time last year on an actual N64 and had a blast so it didn't suddenly turn into an unplayable mess. He can obviously still play MM3D ...
Anyway, I just tried to suggest an easy solution to the problem lol.
NA box designs for the Zelda N64 games are atrocious.
PAL designs have superior classy designs. Love 'em love 'em love 'em!
Solid SOAP
Member
It makes it more mature, yes, and it IS more dark than most Zeldas, but many people act like it's this deeply disturbing tale of woe. I really think it's a happy story, in the end, about overcoming fear and developing the will to hope for life.
Being forced to sit through unskippable cutscenes is indeed "forced" by every definition of the word - and I don't like games that force you to watch extensive cinematic cutscenes, such as most AAA games nowadays. I don't have time for that shit. I want to play games, not bloody watch them.
No need to get angry about it, it's just my opinion! People can play whatever the hell they like, doesn't mean I have to enjoy it too!
I might have to get a 3DS now. I've always wanted to play this game out of all the 3D Zeldas and I even owned Majora's Mask on N64 and GameCube, but never got around to playing it ever, so maybe third time's the charm. Somehow I feel more inclined to play it if it was on a portable.
maybe you played a different skyward sword from everybody else then
cause nothing can justify that game
and for anyone to have some other opinion is just ridiculous.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
While you're listening to those incredible arrangements, just remember that not only will Majora's Mask 3D not have enhanced music in any way, there are people in this very thread who want it that way..
Theanine3D
Member
I actually disagree with everyone saying Majora should not be your first Zelda game. It was my first, and what made me fall in love with the series and explore the other games.
Coming into Majora's Mask without any preconceptions or expectations for what a Zelda game is "supposed to be like" just makes you more open-minded and willing to embrace the unique mechanics found only in this game. I honestly wonder sometimes if I would have given the game the chance it deserved if I had already been a longtime Zelda fan prior to playing it for the first time.
I didn't play Ocarina of Time for the first time until after completing Majora's Mask, so many years ago. And when I did I actually felt put off by the absence of a time mechanic. The world in OoT felt so much more static and unchanging due to the absence of the feature. Termina on the other hand felt truly alive.
Coming into Majora's Mask without any preconceptions or expectations for what a Zelda game is "supposed to be like" just makes you more open-minded and willing to embrace the unique mechanics found only in this game. I honestly wonder sometimes if I would have given the game the chance it deserved if I had already been a longtime Zelda fan prior to playing it for the first time.
I didn't play Ocarina of Time for the first time until after completing Majora's Mask, so many years ago. And when I did I actually felt put off by the absence of a time mechanic. The world in OoT felt so much more static and unchanging due to the absence of the feature. Termina on the other hand felt truly alive.
All of these people getting together to criticize Skyward Sword warms my heart on the cold day. I never liked Majora's Mask as much as most other Zelda's, but even in its weirdness Majora's Mask is more of a Zelda game then SS will ever be.
I listen to the Majora's Mask soundtrack on almost a weekly basis from start to near-end.
I wouldn't change it for the world. It's still fantastic, and the audio design is top tier. It's of its age, yeah - but would you go back to an old 90s/80s album (like say, Pretty Hate Machine) and completely re-do it from new to get rid of the original sound? No. You wouldn't. You'd keep it the way it is, because that's how it should be.
Valjean Lafitte
Banned
I love the original Super Mario Bros. 3 to death. I love the simple color economy the stages in the game use: bright blue sky, green and orange rectangular blocks, clouds with red swirls and gold coins everywhere.
And yet Super Mario All-Stars was certainly a thing. Redrawn graphics, massively expanded palette, and rearranged music too. Didn't really destroy the magic of the game despite not being how it should be.
Edit: Also, you can't play the "enhanced port" vs. "remake" card here, because that's exactly what SMB3 All-stars was, an enhanced port, just like OoT 3D.
Solid SOAP
Member
That would be nice, I still have mine.
Solid SOAP
Member
I don't think people should be comparing the visuals of this too heavily to the original, TBH. Of course it's the same game so comparisons are going to be made, but they're going for a bit different style this time, which I think thus far is actually being pulled off quite well. The colors are a lot more vibrant and in your face than previously. So yes, some scenes might look a bit different and more light-hearted than previously, but in the context of this specific rendition of the game it might not come across that way. Screens such as these:
..do a good job indicating the mood of the game which, to me, looks just as, if not more atmospheric than its predecessor.
..do a good job indicating the mood of the game which, to me, looks just as, if not more atmospheric than its predecessor.
I actually like the visual comparisons because there are a few instances already where you can see better visuals assisting in creating a story for a location. I feel like Icana Canyon sticks out as a pretty good example. I don't remember too many instances of dark and gloomy environments anyway. Termina managed to balance being a "dying" world while staying colorful at the same time.
that would be cool. can they do with the stickers on 3DS games? On N64 it wasn't a sticker like all the other games.
Solid SOAP
Member
There's an old quote from two E3s ago that I just remembered and found...
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...a_talks_dlc_missing_dungeons_and_majoras_mask
Does this give anyone else hope that we might be receiving something of a bit more depth and quality that OoT3D? Perhaps there will be ways to make this not only appeal to people less inclined to play it, but content to make it more worthwhile to the longtime fans as well. I'm really hoping he lives up to this quote. I'd be content with a simple port with better visuals and even a mode to make it easier for newcomers, yes, I'm not expecting much else, but if they went the extra mile and include content that only the hardcore would be able to enjoy (Retooled dungeons that are more difficult than ever, perhaps a mode with a FASTER clock even!?) then I think that I'd fall in love with this game again.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...a_talks_dlc_missing_dungeons_and_majoras_mask
Does this give anyone else hope that we might be receiving something of a bit more depth and quality that OoT3D? Perhaps there will be ways to make this not only appeal to people less inclined to play it, but content to make it more worthwhile to the longtime fans as well. I'm really hoping he lives up to this quote. I'd be content with a simple port with better visuals and even a mode to make it easier for newcomers, yes, I'm not expecting much else, but if they went the extra mile and include content that only the hardcore would be able to enjoy (Retooled dungeons that are more difficult than ever, perhaps a mode with a FASTER clock even!?) then I think that I'd fall in love with this game again.
