teruterubozu
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The flight manifest is clean so far. I mean, you're assuming nefarious activity, and that hasn't even been confirmed yet. How are they supposed to find a perp when they don't even know if it's a crime? Need the black box.
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 ended in the Southern Indian Ocean
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The flight manifest is clean so far. I mean, you're assuming nefarious activity, and that hasn't even been confirmed yet. How are they supposed to find a perp when they don't even know if it's a crime? Need the black box.
This is kinda fascinating - this and other reports coming out really do make it sound like Radar rooms are just small offices with a guy playing Galaga whilst blips go unchecked.
I'm entirely sure the reality is 100% different but c'mon now - radar data reports still coming out and confirmation checks being done, 10 or so days after its gone?
Yeah, I've read that book too. Totally anti-climatic.
Based on a real story though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_593
teruterubozu
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MMBosstones86
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Except they havn't even confirmed this is a hijacking to begin with.
Thought this might be interesting - some brief overviews of the lives of some of the crew and passengers aboard this missing flight.
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/passengers-crew-board-missing-malaysia-plane
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/passengers-crew-board-missing-malaysia-plane
Well the US is scaling back their efforts in the search, which may indicate they know more than they are telling us... and many experts involved have said this looks very much like the results of deliberate actions. Presumably at least the USA has forensically studied the flight manifests and studied the life histories of all passengers on board and come up with a list of potential people who could be involved in such deliberate actions. Is it just the pilots?
Of course I am not saying that it was a hijacking either IMO. I am just saying why don't they give us a list of potential passengers who could have been involved in such deliberate actions? Maybe they don't want to unfairly label people who may not have been involved without more concrete evidence...
I usually sim about once a day on XPlane 10 and it logs and saves every route I have ever flown. I can save or delete specific routes, however. So presumably if, if the pilot is involved he could have easily scrubbed the routes.
Maninthemirror
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To be honest if it was any of the passengers then we would know by now. In nearly every attack the intelligence community has a name and when and where they planned it within a week. Its been 10 days and nothing
For all I know, it could be one of the 2 Russians and 1 Ukrainian passenger who took over flight controls to distract the worlds attention away from Crimea
For all I know, it could be one of the 2 Russians and 1 Ukrainian passenger who took over flight controls to distract the worlds attention away from Crimea
Phoenix
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Because this is an ongoing investigation so they aren't going to start throwing out potentially damning or damaging information. They already showed the interpol stuff saying that they identified the people with the fake passports and that they had no ties to anything, so I think they will continue to do things along those lines. Otherwise you'll create a lot of commotion over what could be entirely incorrect information.
If its not found, i fear that's the route the made for tele-movie is going to take
MMBosstones86
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You nailed it. Wasn't it the Boston incident where a couple kids ended up on the cover of the Post?
If you are going to come at someone, need to make damn sure you have enough evidence to support it
Broder Salsa
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Yes and half of the GAF thread and Reddit was sure they spotted the terrorists too, spreading the faces of innocent people around. Overall pretty embarrassing situation.
Flying Toaster
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The sad part is one would think after all the media screw ups with incorrect pictures that we would have learned our lesson by now.
Sadly this is not the case.
ElbowRocket
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Exploitative and disgusting
uhhhh
This is an interesting summary. It's really hard to pick what would be the most likely, I became very intrigued by this story only after the 7 hour satellite ping as that means "just a crash" is pretty much impossible.
AtomicShroom
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It becomes possible if the plane was set on autopilot. It's not impossible that the pilot programmed the autopilot to climb to 45,000 ft to kill everyone aboard (including himself), then to go back down and follow a straight path to the middle of the Indian Ocean... where the plane flew itself until it ran out of fuel and crashed.
Maldives island residents report sighting of 'low flying jet'
Link - http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062
Link - http://www.haveeru.com.mv/news/54062
Pretty sure the pilot can't just open the auto pilot panel and program it to do whatever he wants.
WTF... Flying from North to South-East over the Maldive???
Of course he can... How do you think the auto pilot work? The flightplan is entered in the computer before takeoff and the auto-pilot follows it (both vertical and horizontal navigation).
teruterubozu
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Maninthemirror
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Correlate this...
With this..
http://my.news.yahoo.com/us-military-south-asian-airports-mh370-pilot-simulator-020501547.html
I think he talks about the possibility than a plane other than the MA flight is highly unlikely. AKA there's no reason for a jumbo jet to do low flyby normally which is why they think it would fit with the missing plane.
They claim it was flying north to south-east. They further claim that it was 'low flying' and saw it was a white plane with red stripes further suggests that it must have been very close. Both seem impossible and even we dismiss their observations regarding the direction and the colors, it's worth bearing in mind that they couldn't have seen the plane if it was further than ~250miles away and that is assuming it was flying very high. I guess the implication could be that it landed somewhere on Maldives, but that doesn't fit any other data and surely someone would have noticed that.
It's unclear from reading that if it's implying that the pilot specifically practiced on the named airports/bases. Or if they merely exist in the flight sim software that was on the pilot's computer (well no shit, of course FSX has just about every airport in the world in its database).
What would be the intention of flying the plane to Diego Garcia anyway. The pilot's ideological leanings don't suggest a terrorism motive.
Ah I never thought it'd be something that's accessible to the pilot or is simple to switch between directions/altitudes. You're probably right I guess.
Wat. The autopilot is specifically intended to be programmed by the pilot. Did you think that the autopilot gets programmed remotely from the ground by the airline? In this case, the autopilot panel is located between the pilot and co-pilot.
This is seriously nuts. Gotta be unrelated. If it is the flight, it's either in the Ocean or on the Maldives - since the sighting was at 6:15am they surely wouldn't have had the fuel for anything else????
teruterubozu
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Well, there are still reports today of people seeing a plane crash near the Malacca Straits:
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-...saw-plane-crash-around-malacca-straits-333686
Eyewitness testimony is unreliable.
Well either a bunch of people are lying/imagining things (it's not just one crazy dude living alone on a beach, it's multiple people on the island) or there was another "jumbo jet" doing low flyby in the middle of the Indian ocean on that morning (wtf.. lol) or it's the MH flight.
Crazy stuff indeed.
Imp the Dimp
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Sad story but god damn, it's exciting. If they plane actually landed on a secluded patch of land and all people were alive, it'd be the best fucking thing ever.
Thats why this story continues to befuddle. Occams Razor? Pssh. All three outcomes you cite are indeed the simplest explanations and all three explanations are equally unlikely for a variety of reasons.
Boom Boom Pow
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They claim it was flying north to south-east. They further claim that it was 'low flying' and saw it was a white plane with red stripes further suggests that it must have been very close. Both seem impossible and even we dismiss their observations regarding the direction and the colors, it's worth bearing in mind that they couldn't have seen the plane if it was further than ~250miles away and that is assuming it was flying very high. I guess the implication could be that it landed somewhere on Maldives, but that doesn't fit any other data and surely someone would have noticed that.
this map is so inaccurate to scale it's not even funny...lol
Betta Lines
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I just plotted a line from the angle of the plane's flight after the first turn... seemed to go rather north of the Maldives... then I looked where 'Kuda Huvadhoo' is:
I just plotted a line from the angle of the plane's flight after the first turn... seemed to go rather north of the Maldives... then I looked where 'Kuda Huvadhoo' is:
Well look at that :V
Betta Lines
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Satellite ping, schmatellite... schming.
I just plotted a line from the angle of the plane's flight after the first turn... seemed to go rather north of the Maldives... then I looked where 'Kuda Huvadhoo' is:
google map "Diego Garcia"
If it's even remotely possible that the Kuda Havadhoo folks are telling the truth... conspiracy theorists get a gold star
teruterubozu
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I love how Courtney Love is the new internet sleuth. Reddit must be fuming at her for taking credit.
Betta Lines
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That image I uploaded to picpar seems to rarely want to load when I refresh the page. What's a better image upload site?
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