Do we know what's with the car crashed in the back?
Horrible all around. Poor guyRIP
They crashed it into the victim.
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Man dead after 'knife attack' in Woolwich
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They crashed it into the victim.
PJV3
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I don't know, the whackos all live in the mountains waiting for the UN.
Police can be armed if they wish and have the requisite training.
Most choose not to be armed though, thankfully.
I've been reliably informed that this doesn't ever happen. It's just racist paranoia. Caught on video.
Must be a UKIP frameup, obviously.
Ignis Fatuus
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I honestly doubt it. I don't believe you could set up a large operation like that here without someone snitching. Most of our mosques and Islamic communities cooperate closely with the authorities. People talk.
These 2 guys were shot by the police.
Cpt.Underpants
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Do we know what's with the car crashed in the back?
Horrible all around. Poor guy
They tried to run over the kid who they want to behead
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Do we know what's with the car crashed in the back?
Horrible all around. Poor guy
Apparently they ran the suspected soldier over first, then got out and attacked him with the knife and cleaver.
Edit: My best friend was based at Woolwich for four years. Glad he's out now
Depends what part of the UK you're in. The PSNI for example all carry guns.
That's the thing. Not commenting on this particular situation but those who orchestrate attacks aren't just about the terror. They're about devolving societies (especially in the West). Anarchists of sorts under an Islamic banner.
kurtrussell
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I think the only reason those police were armed was due to the fact that they were probably military base police. I don't think bog standard English Police are armed - just airport and military police. On a regional basis they are starting to carry tasers though IIRC.
It's kinda like that here. In a sick way. Look up the story of 'Dispatches - Undercover Mosque' if you get time.
That's slightly misleading (especially to the non-British people reading this).
The vast majority of police in England are not armed. If they wish they can apply to one of the armed units which are deployed to certain areas (airports etcs) and during certain events (like this one).
But they do not go back to their 'old' job with a gun.
I know, I'm from the UK. I was just (lazily) pointing out that the police in this country are armed when they need to be.
All forces, both met and county have many armed response units out at any one time. Always some on call 24/7 no matter the area.
Karma...instant.
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I don't know, last time I went to London (to see Primus last year) nearly every policeman was armed, if they didn't have a handgun they were holding an assault rifle. I walked up to one in the underground (huge guy with an mp5) and asked him where the fuck I was going, he just looked at me like I was a flea and told me to go away.
Probably just a coincidence that all three of the police I saw were armed though.
V
Vilix
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Do we know what's with the car crashed in the back?
Horrible all around. Poor guy
According to the BBC they used it to hit the first guy. Once he was down on the ground they got out and attacked him.
Who took 20 minutes to arrive according to one eye witness. I wasn't for it, but this has seriously made me consider if I would support arming our every day police officers now.
Nicktendo86
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I've been shouted at and called a white bastard by groups of young Asians around the whitechapel area before, just as i walk home. Eid is always a terrible time in the area, kids hire limos and block up all the roads shouting outside the windows at people on the street. Whitechapel is also the area an Islamic group painted all billboards with women on to make them look like they were wearing a veil. It is not said much, but that area of east London has a real problem with rasict Muslim lads, as a while bloke I feel scared to walk around there.
The fact is that the vast, vast majority of officers don't want to be armed.
A 2006 survey of 47,328 Police Federation members found 82% did not want officers to be routinely armed on duty, despite almost half saying their lives had been "in serious jeopardy" during the previous three years.
Considering that the highly trained armed police are not want to shoot innocent people multipal times in the head without warning *cough*Jean Charles de Menendez*cough* I think that arming officers as a matter of routine is a recipe for disaster.
Armed police wouldn't have saved the life of the man that was killed by this nobhead today.
brokenbeans
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I don't think they should carry them on their person, but I do think they should have them locked away in patrol cars.
The Incarnation
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Well every Black and Asian dude over thirty has dealt with that on a daily basis for years before even by teachers at school. It gets better with time. Suck it up.
dripdripsplash
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Over here in Denmark we also have a so called defence force but they never set their foot in areas with a lot of Muslims/immigrants.
Please do be safe everybody.
Psychotext
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I'd consider 20 minutes quick around my way. =/
kurtrussell
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And then you make every patrol car a target for the local hard nuts and wannabe gangsters. Not a great idea.
If that's accurate, it's seriously worrying. I understand that police arrived, then called in armed support (which would add to the waiting time), but this isn't the middle of nowhere, it's SE London...
kurtrussell
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Nicktendo86
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No one should have to suck it up when it comes to rasict abuse, what a stupid thing to say. It was disgusting that immigrants were abused and it is no different for white people or anyone else to be racially abused. There is a real problem in the area and whenever it is mentioned people say oh yeah well white people were horrible to immigrants when they came over, that is no fucking excuse.
Ignis Fatuus
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That looks like bizarro world to me.
The Last Emperor
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I'm not gonna reply lmao. I'll leave it for others.
They'll be back in 2015.
Joel Was Right
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Their green card is difficult to attain unless you're well educated or have business interests. I would garner you have a higher ratio of upper class Muslims in the US than in Europe
Soodanim
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This isn't a common occurrence, though. I know of more cases where police went too far than I do of where armed units were necessary.
If they're adequately secured there's no problem. I'm not talking about simply chucking them in the glove box. Like this: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10758687
brokenbeans
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I see the ban hammer coming in this thread.
PJV3
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Wocka Wocka Wocka.
Oh, that's cool then. Nick should probably stop whinging because it happened to other people too.
Indeed. It looks so much like a far right dream scenario that people don't take it seriously.
Certainly looks that way. A similar social ban-hammer stops most people talking about these issues.
PJV3
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I think the request for facts will calm the thread down.
Miles Quaritch
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What the fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfEoCEKIaNE
How was this not reported in the mainstream media? This is pretty damn disgusting.
An Asian guy I know told me an anecdote once about reading about a racist attack in his local paper in London. He was a bit of an angry brute and told me on his walk to the tube station the next day he was kind of "looking for trouble" (I know, wtf??). He'd convinced himself he was gonna meet this same racist gang and would proceed to "fuck them up". Loltastic, I'm sure.
Anyway, he didn't get set upon and to his consternation found out a short time later that the attack had been by a group of Asian lads against a white kid. It turned his world upside down for a few weeks and I'm happy to say he's a well rounded kind of guy these days. The dangers of angry teenagers.
Oh, also, I totally agree with your post.
Ravensmash
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At least there are more sensible voices coming out on my Facebook at the moment.
So far I've seen people condoning torture, bombings and violence - events like this really bring out the worst in people.
Of course, everyone is rightly angry but some of the comments have been nothing short of horrendous.
So far I've seen people condoning torture, bombings and violence - events like this really bring out the worst in people.
Of course, everyone is rightly angry but some of the comments have been nothing short of horrendous.
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