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Man of Steel |OT| It's about action.
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Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Treefingers
Member
for real? I think the movie should've made that more clear.
They didn't? I could have sworn they said she won a Pulitzer.
Treefingers
Member
i'm kidding
they spelled it out in the most amateur way possible.Anton Sugar
Member
Oh, you guys.
It's plausible. People have won a Pulitzer at the age of 21 before during their first couple of years.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
She's well-known enough that a random military guy was familiar with her work, and she mentions her Pulitzer is her first Daily Planet scene. How clear does it need to be?
Anton Sugar
Member
Don't forget that scene where she climbs into an ice cave overlooking the ocean in below freezing temperature and also she drinks whiskey fast, because she is tough.
True. And the movie never says when she won, so she still could have won at a very young age.
I guess all I'm really saying is that I appreciate that they decided to cast an older actress in the role of their veteran journalist.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Its going to set up great for the sequel where luthors argument against superman and motivations for fighting him are actually going to be correct
Treefingers
Member
again I'm kidding haha, they definitely succeeded in driving that point home.
Didn't the
big Kryptonian dude basically explode the pilot when he ripped him out and destroyed the jet?
Anton Sugar
Member
Agreed, I was happy about this. Someone in another MoS thread was bitching that Amy Adams was older than Cavill.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Yes, I will agree with you 110% there, and I really hope that's what Snyder was preparing for (ie: the script was inentionally lackluster). If MoS2 has Luthor utilizing everything I disliked about MoS1 against Superman, and using it well, then I'd forgive everything and consider MoS1 + MoS2 just one very long movie.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Exactly.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
nvm.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
He doesn't have say that,
but he could have simply not crashed him through building in the first place, or at least not started it.
Messypandas
Member
Was this posted? Looks like our man of tomorrow from Superman 78 had a little cameo in MOS
http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/25/man-of-steel-classic-superman-movie-actor-cameo-confirmed/
http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/25/man-of-steel-classic-superman-movie-actor-cameo-confirmed/
Bobby Roberts
Banned
We're on this destruction shit again! OKAY. Lets' do it.
I'm just linking to this post I JUST made in the spoiler thread, because a) Spoiler thread, and b) I'd rather not have to redact everything behind black bars.
Anyway, having seen the movie twice (and chunks of both fights multiple times now) I'm pretty safe in saying that the number of people Clark actually hurts through his own direct actions is nowhere near as big as the prevailing narrative in pop-culture media and it's messageboard/twitter trickledown is making it sound.
Plus there's the whole "he actually saved the world" part that nobody wants to give him credit for, which is weird, but okay.
I'm just linking to this post I JUST made in the spoiler thread, because a) Spoiler thread, and b) I'd rather not have to redact everything behind black bars.
Anyway, having seen the movie twice (and chunks of both fights multiple times now) I'm pretty safe in saying that the number of people Clark actually hurts through his own direct actions is nowhere near as big as the prevailing narrative in pop-culture media and it's messageboard/twitter trickledown is making it sound.
Plus there's the whole "he actually saved the world" part that nobody wants to give him credit for, which is weird, but okay.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
God damn I really didn't notice this in the film, sure looks like they pulled a mini cgi moment to honor Reeve or Cavill is actually a shape shifter. For one split second it looks like Reeve at least to my eyes.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They didn't CGI his face.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
True. I complained about the possibility of killing thousands, but it wasn't really my main issue.
I suppose they'll lower the stakes in the sequel, right? It's not like they could be higher. This movie makes it hard for me to picture a sequel.
Maybe, I have to see it again to really make up my mind.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
haha I had a whole rant about that typed up this morning, but decided against posting it since it's a waste of time here.
fallingdove
Member
Not to mention, having now seen the movie three times, I am convinced that Snyder and Goyer were attempting to follow the end to end story of the Mission and Ministry of Jesus Christ, even through the apocalypse(the mass destruction of Metropolis). I can see what they were trying to do, I think that it just did not resonate with people the way that Snyder and Goyer were hoping it would.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
I read the article. Cavill doesn't look like Reeve so for him to even look like him that much for a split second is kinda creepy imo.
I mean Routh was cast to be him and doesn't even come close to that split second of looking like the spitting image of him.
It's creepy and cool at the same time.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The violence/spectacle has to be pointed inward. You can't really go any bigger (at least until the 3rd) so you have to a) make it personal and b) make it CREATIVE. The action has to be a puzzle our hero needs to solve. Put boundaries on the action and have the characters figure out on the fly (heh) how to work within those boundaries.
I'm still thinking Luthor secretly funds the tech that makes Metallo a reality, with John Corben as an angry, vengeance filled survivor of the gravity weapon Zod used before Clark could finish his job in India.
Third movie: Brainiac/Luthor team-up.
I'm still thinking Luthor secretly funds the tech that makes Metallo a reality, with John Corben as an angry, vengeance filled survivor of the gravity weapon Zod used before Clark could finish his job in India.
Third movie: Brainiac/Luthor team-up.
Incredible breakdown.
Great post.
I just hope people don't ignore it the next time the "destruction" topic come up.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
God damn I really didn't notice this in the film, sure looks like they pulled a mini cgi moment to honor Reeve or Cavill is actually a shape shifter. For one split second it looks like Reeve at least to my eyes.
Yep. I let out a muffled 'Christopher Reeves??' in the theatre at that part.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
To be fair, I'm not saying there isn't huge amounts of destruction. There's a lot of it. A lot of imaginary, unseen people DO die in this movie, as well as a bunch of nameless extras caught under the Gravity Weapon when it first fires.
I'm also not saying the substitution of large-scale destruction for personal, actual stakes (see: Avengers, Star Trek into Darkness, etc) is a good thing.
I'm just saying the amount of death/destruction people are specifically attributing to Clark is pretty disproportionate. Calling him a "mass-murderer" is vast overstatement, but it's becoming codified into general fact the further the discussion on this movie goes forward, and it completely ignores the fact he did actually save the whole world.
I'm also not saying the substitution of large-scale destruction for personal, actual stakes (see: Avengers, Star Trek into Darkness, etc) is a good thing.
I'm just saying the amount of death/destruction people are specifically attributing to Clark is pretty disproportionate. Calling him a "mass-murderer" is vast overstatement, but it's becoming codified into general fact the further the discussion on this movie goes forward, and it completely ignores the fact he did actually save the whole world.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
THANK YOU. This has to be one of the most ridiculous, annoying and petty criticisms of a film I've seen recently.
Messypandas
Member
God damn I really didn't notice this in the film, sure looks like they pulled a mini cgi moment to honor Reeve or Cavill is actually a shape shifter. For one split second it looks like Reeve at least to my eyes.
It was certainly evocative of this image, which i think was intentional
That's some high quality research, BobbyRoberts. The destruction caused by Superman directly isn't as bad as the buzz makes it seem.
I think the issue people had with the movie was that while Superman saved the world, given the heap of destruction caused as a result of his presence it's debatable whether the world was better off with Superman in the first place. You could argue that Zod would have found and selected Earth as the new home planet for Krypton, but Kal-El's presence led him there.
So we shouldn't be mad at Kal-El. We should be mad at Jor-El.
I think the issue people had with the movie was that while Superman saved the world, given the heap of destruction caused as a result of his presence it's debatable whether the world was better off with Superman in the first place. You could argue that Zod would have found and selected Earth as the new home planet for Krypton, but Kal-El's presence led him there.
So we shouldn't be mad at Kal-El. We should be mad at Jor-El.
Maninthemirror
Banned
People just wanted a typical hollywood cheesy scene of superman swooping down saving a guy and a gal from falling blocks.
I said this in one thread but can't remember wich one.
I said "He saved the entire freaking planet" or something of that nature.
Anton Sugar
Member
So we shouldn't be mad at Kal-El. We should be mad at Jor-El.
Hey,
God damn I really didn't notice this in the film, sure looks like they pulled a mini cgi moment to honor Reeve or Cavill is actually a shape shifter. For one split second it looks like Reeve at least to my eyes.
That would be a really weird homage if true.
Anton Sugar
Member
Nah, we got that in the scene where Superman saves Lois.
Messypandas
Member
there saying this the Reeve frame
Cavill looks weird fo sho
Cavill looks weird fo sho
God damn I really didn't notice this in the film, sure looks like they pulled a mini cgi moment to honor Reeve or Cavill is actually a shape shifter. For one split second it looks like Reeve at least to my eyes.
Best scene in the movie
I agree.
Matrix
LeBron loves his girlfriend. There is no other woman in the world hed rather have. The problem is, Dwyanes not a woman.
there saying this the Reeve frame
Cavill looks weird fo sho
You can tell though that something is going on with his eye sockets, cheekbones, lips, nose bridge. It just makes him look like Reeve. Sure it's the lighting/effects but still...
Just
edit- I also see Reeve at the start of the gif I posted. Ugh creepy, now I'm seeing shit.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
If Sculli had ever opened his review with "John Carter is about as good as a Star Wars prequel" that'd be one thing. But he somehow thinks its better than that, which is weird to me, but the world don't move, to the beat of just one drum. What might be right for you, may not be right for some.
A MAN IS BORN, HE'S A MAN OF STEEL
AND ALONG COMES ZOD, HE'S GOT A LOT OF ANGRY FEELS
Seriously though - I still think Donner's film is the best live-action version of Superman there is, even with all the ridiculousness and corniness involved. Calling Man of Steel "The best of all the Star Wars prequels" isn't exactly a huge thumb up. It's like a B- grade, a 7.1 out of 10.
I think there are a lot of parallels between what Man of Steel and John Carter, though. I just think Man of Steel manages to come out on the positive end of those comparisons way more than it doesnt.