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[SCULLIBUNDO]

Wait, there was a Jenny? I have to admit, I'm starting to forget HUGE chunks of this film - so bored by it was I.

Edit: Oh, wait. That was the chick stuck under the rubble?

 

[Raptor]

I really hope there are some deleted scenes from the Daily Planet. I'm still trying to understand why I was meant to give a shit about Jenny when I know absolutely nothing about her before that scene.

Spoiler

You mean you didn't give a shit about a person being left behind to die?

 

[Matrix]

Wait, there was a Jenny? I have to admit, I'm starting to forget HUGE chunks of this film - so bored by it was I.

 

[Raptor]

Sup Sculli, I find very funny that you say you were bored by it and then go and say Returns is awesome.

Don't know man lols.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

It's crazy to me that in a movie where the first scene with Clark features him saving people from a disaster, there is a debate about him not being heroic enough.

That scene was fine. It is too bad he never seemed to give as much of a shit later on in the film.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Spoiler

You mean you didn't give a shit about a person being left behind to die?

Haha come on. Loads of people were dying. But the amount of screen time she got is only deserved after the character is established.

It's crazy to me that in a movie where the first scene with Clark features him saving people from a disaster, there is a debate about him not being heroic enough.

It really is a senseless debate. A guy who doesn't know the limits of his powers is letting loose for the first time against a super powered alien general who wants to destroy humanity, and people are shocked that he's just slightly rough and a bit reckless in trying to put a stop to the villain? Clark is shown to be upstanding citizen throughout the film. From

Spoiler

saving the guys on the rig, to defending the server at the bar, to giving himself up to Zod for the human race, and snapping Zod's neck to stop him from committing further bloodshed.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Sup Sculli, I find very funny that you say you were bored by it and then go and say Returns is awesome.

Don't know man lols.

Returns isn't awesome. It's good. I was invested in the characters in Returns and wasn't invested with anybody in MoS. It's that simple, really.

 

[Raptor]

Returns isn't awesome. It's good. I was invested in the characters in Returns and wasn't invested with anybody in MoS. It's that simple, really.

No I mean't the "boring" part of it all.



I mean at least MoS has shit blowing up left and right.

 

[Maninthemirror]

It also felt like once the initial shit hit the fan, the Daily Planet staffers were the only ones left in the city.

They were media, they are almost always the last to leave.

 

[Anton Sugar]

Spoiler

You mean you didn't give a shit about a person being left behind to die?

The script sure as hell didn't give us any reason to. Was that the first time we heard her name? Because that's the only time I remember it being said.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

They were media, they are almost always the last to leave.

I guess everyone else got crushed by the machine then. It felt like everyone else just vanished from one scene to the next.

 

[Raptor]

The script sure as hell didn't give us any reason to. Was that the first time we heard her name? Because that's the only time I remember it being said.

I don't need a reason to care about it as a human being man.

Maybe Im being naive here?

 

[Maninthemirror]

That scene was fine. It is too bad he never seemed to give as much of a shit later on in the film.

Spoiler

He saves 7 billion people destroying the world machine.

You know the scene where he looks like reeves

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

I guess everyone else got crushed by the machine then. It felt like everyone else just vanished from one scene to the next.

Except for Lois. She moves around with Kryptonian speed.

 

[Future Foundation]

It also felt like once the initial shit hit the fan, the Daily Planet staffers were the only ones left in the city.

Weren't they one of the last buildings to evacuate? I remember a cop being shocked that they hadn't left yet/were still leaving.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Spoiler

He saves 7 billion people destroying the world machine.

You know the scene where he looks like reeves

I know he saves the world in the end. No one questions that. It just feels like he couldn't care less about how many eggs he cracks as he does it.

Except for Lois. She moves around with Kryptonian speed.

Wasn't she with the military at that time?

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Except for Lois. She moves around with Kryptonian speed.

No, she's not THAT fast.

She moves at the speed of PLOT!

Which is almost as fast.

Wasn't she with the military at that time?

Yeah, Lois is with the military after the Smallville fight until the middle of the Metropolis fight. After which, she finds Clark in the train station, via the Speed of Plot.

 

[Maninthemirror]

I know he saves the world in the end. No one questions that. It just feels like he couldn't care less about how many eggs he cracks as he does it.

Spoiler

Superman himself explodes with zod in one building when they collide, zod throws superman through 8 buildings and zod heat vision collapses another, so either he can stop zod or snyder has to hand hold viewer into showing shot of supes saving 2 people while zod kills more

 

[Eidan]

That scene was fine. It is too bad he never seemed to give as much of a shit later on in the film.

And it's followed by the bus scene.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

No, she's not THAT fast.

She moves at the speed of PLOT!

Which is almost as fast.

That makes me think of Mr. Burns somehow beating Bart to the basement in the greyhound episode.

 

[Matrix]

Seriously more Returns talk again. Sculli just create a new OT for Returns and why the world still needs that Superman.


SOMEBODY SAVVVVVVVVVVVE MEEEEEEE

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Seriously more Returns talk again. Sculli just create a new OT for Returns and why the world still needs that Superman.

You don't even need an OT, it was one of the 16 spinoff threads that hit the board over in the first week of release.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Seriously more Returns talk again. Sculli just create a new OT for Returns and why the world still needs that Superman.


SOMEBODY SAVVVVVVVVVVVE MEEEEEEE

Superman Returns |OT|- It May Not Be Great, But At Least it is Better Than Man of Steel.

 

[Raptor]

Seriously more Returns talk again. Sculli just create a new OT for Returns and why the world still needs that Superman.


SOMEBODY SAVVVVVVVVVVVE MEEEEEEE

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Spoiler

Superman himself explodes with zod in one building when they collide, zod throws superman through 8 buildings and zod heat vision collapses another, so either he can stop zod or snyder has to hand hold viewer into showing shot of supes saving 2 people while zod kills more

No, all Snyder and co have to do is show that Superman is worried -

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whether he can stop Zod fighting him or not. Just show that he's worried about all the destruction they're causing. It's 9/11 x 100 going on around them and Superman doesn't bat an eye. It's very distressing. We understand that Zod isn't exactly going to agree to stop fighting and follow Superman somewhere else. But show me that Superman recognizes that leveling many city blocks is life-threatening to the humans he apparently cares so much about.

 

[Solo]

Seriously more Returns talk again. Sculli just create a new OT for Returns and why the world still needs that Superman.


SOMEBODY SAVVVVVVVVVVVE MEEEEEEE

To cleanse your palette ....

 

[PhoncipleBone]

No, all Snyder and co have to do is show that Superman is worried -

Spoiler

whether he can stop Zod fighting him or not. Just show that he's worried about all the destruction they're causing. It's 9/11 x 100 going on around them and Superman doesn't bat an eye. It's very distressing. We understand that Zod isn't exactly going to agree to stop fighting and follow Superman somewhere else. But show me that Superman recognizes that level many city blocks is life-threatening to the humans he apparently cares so much about.

Thank you.

I understand that this is a serious issue with some people (including myself), but to others it is not an issue at all.

 

[Matrix]

You don't even need an OT, it was one of the 16 spinoff threads that hit the board over in the first week of release.

I tend to ignore anything with the title Superman Returns. That's just absurd lol

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

Seriously more Returns talk again. Sculli just create a new OT for Returns and why the world still needs that Superman.


SOMEBODY SAVVVVVVVVVVVE MEEEEEEE

I was responding to somebody else who brought up Returns, you clod.

 

[Maninthemirror]

No, all Snyder and co have to do is show that Superman is worried -

Spoiler

whether he can stop Zod fighting him or not. Just show that he's worried about all the destruction they're causing. It's 9/11 x 100 going on around them and Superman doesn't bat an eye. It's very distressing. We understand that Zod isn't exactly going to agree to stop fighting and follow Superman somewhere else. But show me that Superman recognizes that level many city blocks is life-threatening to the humans he apparently cares so much about.

Of course he is, or he would have joined Zod When Zod asks him . When 9/11 x 100 was going on superman was

Spoiler

in indonesia destroying the machine causing it, what were you watching ??!!

 

[artist]

Superman Returns | OT | Thread for all that prefer Superboy over man, Singer wankery personified

 

[PhoncipleBone]

To cleanse your palette ....

More palette cleansing.

 

[JB1981]

No, all Snyder and co have to do is show that Superman is worried -

Spoiler

whether he can stop Zod fighting him or not. Just show that he's worried about all the destruction they're causing. It's 9/11 x 100 going on around them and Superman doesn't bat an eye. It's very distressing. We understand that Zod isn't exactly going to agree to stop fighting and follow Superman somewhere else. But show me that Superman recognizes that leveling many city blocks is life-threatening to the humans he apparently cares so much about.

What

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about snapping his neck

. Did that show he cared ?

 

[Matrix]

I was responding to somebody else who brought up Returns, you clod.

Clod? lol haven't seen that word typed up in a long ass time.

 

[Raptor]

More palette cleansing.

Even more!!!

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

What

Spoiler

about snapping his neck

. Did that show he cared ?

Like I've already said - that scene plays as hilarious because three people all of a sudden matter when thousands before didn't. Why didn't he resolve to do something like that earlier given how many thousands would have been dying in an ever-escalating number the longer their fight went on? Were these people relatives of his?

 

[Matrix]

To cleanse your palette ....

Good stuff, never gets old. Timeless unlike Returns

Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!

 

[Bobby Roberts]

But show me that Superman recognizes that leveling many city blocks is life-threatening to the humans he apparently cares so much about.

Clark isn't leveling any city blocks.

Clark doesn't level anything in that fight.

Zod doesn't level anything once Clark shows up (except maybe that empty office building)

Like I've already said - that scene plays as hilarious because three people all of a sudden matter when thousands before didn't.

You mean like singlehandedly destroying the World Engine?

Why do you think he did that?

Here's the problem with these complaints. Not that they're not understandable. They are. It's that the level of unnecessary exaggeration that goes along with them tends to dull the points being made.

But then again - unnecessary exaggeration seems appropriate for the unnecessary destruction. Or rather, I'd imagine that's the mindset, there.

 

[Discotheque]

i forgot how cool blade 2's soundtrack was. too bad they had such a lame villain. should have just made donnie yen and a bunch of asian ninja vampires the bad guys instead.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

Like I've already said - that scene plays as hilarious because three people all of a sudden matter when thousands before didn't. Why didn't he resolve to do something like that earlier given how many thousands would have been dying in an ever-escalating number the longer their fight went on? Were these people relatives of his?

There is a deleted flashback scene at that point where we see that family took Clark in and gave him food after he ran off from the fishing boat incident.

i forgot how cool blade 2's soundtrack was. too bad they had such a lame villain. should have just made donnie yen and a bunch of asian ninja vampires the bad guys instead.

Gonna disagree on the villain part. Nomak was cool. Better than Frost. And anyone was better than Dracula and Parker Posey in the third one.

But they should have used Donnie Yen more.

 

[Raptor]

Like I've already said - that scene plays as hilarious because three people all of a sudden matter when thousands before didn't. Why didn't he resolve to do something like that earlier given how many thousands would have been dying in an ever-escalating number the longer their fight went on? Were these people relatives of his?

Really weird sense of humour you got there.

 

[JB1981]

Like I've already said - that scene plays as hilarious because three people all of a sudden matter when thousands before didn't. Why didn't he resolve to do something like that earlier given how many thousands would have been dying in an ever-escalating number the longer their fight went on? Were these people relatives of his?

What thousands of people are you referring to? I didn't see thousands of people die as a result of the two of them fighting.

 

[Anton Sugar]

I don't need a reason to care about it as a human being man.

Maybe Im being naive here?

This sounds mean, but yeah, maybe you are. Screenwriting 101 is getting the audience to care about your characters in an organic way, which is typically more than just having them exist. Otherwise, it's trite or at worst, manipulative.

What thousands of people are you referring to? I didn't see thousands of people die as a result of the two of them fighting.

I didn't see anyone die on 9/11, either.

 

[Raptor]

i forgot how cool blade 2's soundtrack was. too bad they had such a lame villain. should have just made donnie yen and a bunch of asian ninja vampires the bad guys instead.

Nomak was cool man, or you mean the actor?

This sounds mean, but yeah, maybe you are. Screenwriting 101 is getting the audience to care about your characters in an organic way, which is typically more than just having them exist. Otherwise, it's trite or at worst, manipulative.

Yeah, I guess.

 

[Discotheque]

Better than Frost.

nononononono. deacon frost was a glorious euro-trash vampire. he's one of the big reasons why i think blade 1 is superior.

i'm not a fan of luke goss when he speaks. he kind of dragged down hellboy 2 for me as well. i wonder if Del Toro made the Hobbit would he have cast him in a major role.

@Raptor: both, imo.

 

[Maninthemirror]

What thousands of people are you referring to? I didn't see thousands of people die as a result of the two of them fighting.

Probably a cpl hundred died from their fight and hundreds of thousands from world engine

 

[Maninthemirror]

This sounds mean, but yeah, maybe you are. Screenwriting 101 is getting the audience to care about your characters in an organic way, which is typically more than just having them exist. Otherwise, it's trite or at worst, manipulative.



I didn't see anyone die on 9/11, either.

1 building collapse by zod in fight, dozens by world engine. What caused more damage

 

[Raptor]

We gotta see the big picture here ( god damn Spacey Luthor sucks so bad man), he saved billions.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

1 building collapse by zod in fight, dozens by world engine. What caused more damage

Superman being hit and exploding through three or four buildings in the distance? Supes himself throwing tankers and shit. C'mon son.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

We gotta see the big picture here ( god damn Spacey Luthor sucks so bad man), he saved billions.

Spacey turned in a better performance than almost everyone in MoS.

Krrrrrrrrrrrryptonite! He was hamming it up, but he was doing it brilliantly.