Before I begin, I'd like to point out that I am loathe to write this kind of piece. However, in the absence of divine intervention (Dresden-sama?) I feel obliged to speak up.
I have a really hard time with animeGAF. I'd like to talk about stuff there sometimes, but they seem to hate everything.
There is no collective voice. AnimeGAF is merely a thread for discussing seasonal anime and many of us do not see eye-to-eye. There are a handful of very regular posters as well as some less frequent attendants. It's true that there are certain posters whose voices are heard more clearly but most of them e.g. cajunator hardly hate everything. Hell, he doesn't seem to dislike anything.
The only thing that separates the participants in the the main anime thread from the people who post in say, Toonami or the individual show threads is personal preference. This leads to each thread having it's own voice but it's still no more than an allied collection of individuals with divergent tastes.
I don't know, every time I go in there, its people watching shows they hate and then complaining about how dumb and pandering they are. I mean, people in AnimeGAF clearly like SAO since they watch all of it and comment on every episode, but then they just write paragraphs about how dumb it like they need to save face in front of internet people they don't know even though its super obvious they like it anyways since people don't watch things they don't like unless they are actually insane people.
This was the fundamental source of the conflict between Big One and I -- he claimed he read Naruto despite hating it. Its just such an irrational claim that it the only logical conclusion is that its trolling or playing it off. People don't do things they actively don't like unless there is some actual justification or obligation to do so.
I could buy that argument if we're talking about watching the last 2 seasons of Lost because the first four seasons were good. But I don't buy someone would watch 10 more seasons of Lost if they were all shitty just to find out what happens in the end or based on the good will from the first four.
There are a lot of ideas here that are worth examining,
- Yes, people certainly watch shows and complain about them. This is because a lot of anime shows are, unfortunately, dreadful. However, as there's so few shows airing every season sometimes people stick with things to see if they improve.
- This, however, is not the case for everyone, or even the majority of posters. There's plenty of people posting about shows they're enjoying.
- I don't know what's more interesting, your idea that people can't possibly watch things they dislike on a regular basis or that it's somehow unique to the main anime thread.
LOST is an interesting example because it's far longer than any anime, so the comparison doesn't quite work. A single season of
SAO was far shorter than a single season of
LOST.
I certainly remember the ire of people who'd post in those
LOST threads week after week, year after year, complaining about the show. More recently, people regularly hatewatched
The Newsroom both, the public on forums and professional critics.
The Walking Dead is a TV series that has attracted hatewatching for sometime. The list goes on and on. Hatewatching is something that occurs in all forms of media for all kinds of viewers across a broad spectrum of genres. Why, exactly, people engage in this activity is a very interesting question but it's quite clear that it exists. A cursory google or twitter search generates countless examples of the phenomena.
Now, with
Sword Art Online specifically plenty of people were watching that because it was the hot show of the period. It had a hook, as they say, to get people onboard and many people kept up with the show in the hope that it might improve. Anyway, the really dedicated hatewatch didn't even come from the main anime thread or AnimeGAF (besides firehawk12, of course), but instead from the main SAO thread in the Off Topic forum.
Why do people still watch the show? They want to know if it'll get worse, whether it can top the ludicrousness of the first season. Or, perhaps, they actually like it. There are numerous potential reasons, but 'secretly liking it' probably isn't the blanket explanation for everyone.
I enjoy watching things I dislike as long as they are entertaining in some way, I thought the last season of Dexter was awful, but I enjoyed the experience of watching alongside a friend and laughing at it as well as discussing the issues the season had. Analyzing where something went wrong can be on itself a fun and interesting activity.
Now watching it just to say "its awful" is something I usually don't do, there has to be some degree of interest for me to watch something I dislike.
Another good TV example.
That's my point - haters derive enjoyment from hating. That's kind of my point about animeGAF at times - they're either secretly enjoying it unironically, or they're just being haters. Either isn't something I like.
I see we're back at the AnimeGAF hive mid again here. While there may be individual people enjoying certain shows unironically but posting negatively that's just a supposition that I can't prove.
I'm also not sure what the definition of a "hater" is, or who these posters are that only spew hate because I just don't see that content in the thread.
If by hate you mean that people in the thread express critical views about shows that they watch then I won't apologize for that, people should be free to express their dissatisfaction and disappointment. If there are lots of bad shows in a season then they're will be a lot of negative impressions but so be it.