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Quintin DM
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I Personally like Kubo's art so I'd like to see him collaborate with a writer on a new series. Put someone who can write a decent story at the helm and have Kubo do the art and I think you could have something half way decent there.
Or this.
Would watch/read
Siding with Araki cos poses
Imagine if they made a runway manga together
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Every Araki character I've ever seen is dresed in laughably garish outfits
Stone Ocean
Member
That's an unfair battle because there's only one Araki
So are most runway models!
IRL Araki dresses much better than Kubo or Nomura who both shop at hot topic.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Actually, most runway models dress fine if you're seeing a non-couture show.
Even at couture sometimes the designers do simple stuff.
Stone Ocean
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Diavolo is so risqué it needs to be covered up by Giorno and Akira
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
Bleach 686 END
Editor: Kubo-Sensei, its sad that Bleach is ending, but at least you have the dignity to not go down like a hack fraud, right?
Kubo: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Soma 179
"Akira what happened to the basis of your entire character"
"Who cares lol lets fight"
Couldn't be more obvious this is some Ishida situation. At least Rindou was in it
Killer Killer 06
You don't look that great in this artstyle Kyoko.
Editor: Kubo-Sensei, its sad that Bleach is ending, but at least you have the dignity to not go down like a hack fraud, right?
Kubo: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Soma 179
"Akira what happened to the basis of your entire character"
"Who cares lol lets fight"
Couldn't be more obvious this is some Ishida situation. At least Rindou was in it
Killer Killer 06
You don't look that great in this artstyle Kyoko.
Imperial Bishop
Banned
Bleach - END
It's been fun, Bleach. Your story was...mildly amusing, at best.
It's been fun, Bleach. Your story was...mildly amusing, at best.
Bleach - END
It's been fun, Bleach. Your story was...mildly amusing, at best.
I mean if you're going to give the series a shitty ending you may as well just end it on an Aizen troll. Instead we got boring bullshit.
nabe_shogun
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Shokugeki no Soma 179
Figured this would happen. Hayama was never really part of the Soma gang anyway.
Figured this would happen. Hayama was never really part of the Soma gang anyway.
One Piece
Heyyyy that's a pretty big bounty there buddy. Pretty cool to see a character with a humorous design get so be so badass.
I don't think anybody is surprised with this arc not staying a stealth mission. We're already almost done with the year of sanji and nothing so far.
Wouldn't mind Luffy getting eaten by a snake again while the other strawhats get some spotlight. I think Usopp is the only one who had some quality screentime since like, Impel Down started.
Hero Academia
Well 100 is still quite a bit of room to keep most of the students and still fill it with hype competitors. I guess a couple could go down here though considering they have the disadvantage for an excuse.
Willing to bet money that Mineta passes though
Tomo-chan
I can't read this arc without thinking about HxH
Heyyyy that's a pretty big bounty there buddy. Pretty cool to see a character with a humorous design get so be so badass.
I don't think anybody is surprised with this arc not staying a stealth mission. We're already almost done with the year of sanji and nothing so far.
Wouldn't mind Luffy getting eaten by a snake again while the other strawhats get some spotlight. I think Usopp is the only one who had some quality screentime since like, Impel Down started.
Hero Academia
Well 100 is still quite a bit of room to keep most of the students and still fill it with hype competitors. I guess a couple could go down here though considering they have the disadvantage for an excuse.
Willing to bet money that Mineta passes though
Tomo-chan
I can't read this arc without thinking about HxH
Berserk 345
So I guess now the wait begins, huh?
Overall, the first 13 volumes are some of the most gruesome and entertaining actionhorror-books around. Really great and tough stuff. Afterwards it still has some amazing moments, but the bleak grimeyness that penetrated through every panel was replaced by a, for my liking, a bit too fantastical plot and characters that were too vibrant. I still liked them, some really good development in there, even Farneze ended up pretty interesting, but nothing beats the lone black swordsman traveling around and wrecking havoc.
And Guts is looking more and more like a Kenshiro-JoJo-Mix.
So I guess now the wait begins, huh?
Overall, the first 13 volumes are some of the most gruesome and entertaining actionhorror-books around. Really great and tough stuff. Afterwards it still has some amazing moments, but the bleak grimeyness that penetrated through every panel was replaced by a, for my liking, a bit too fantastical plot and characters that were too vibrant. I still liked them, some really good development in there, even Farneze ended up pretty interesting, but nothing beats the lone black swordsman traveling around and wrecking havoc.
And Guts is looking more and more like a Kenshiro-JoJo-Mix.
ugh soma shittin the bed.
plotwise is been crap since erina-papa joined the proceedings
Infinite Justice
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This right here.
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Guts looks like that dude from army of darkness.
OniBarubary
Banned
At least Soma Season 2 will let us see the best moment in the manga animated.
BassForever
Member
But Erina and Alice at the pool was done as an ova
Bleach End
A fitting end. Terrible.
Soma latest
The character interactions outside of the matches are still great, but Central and the whole conflict is just bleh. What happened to the Soma that had the Stagiaire and Autumn Festival arcs?
Toriko latest
This is how you do an endgame if you're getting rushed, Kubo. Take notes.
You can tell how fast everything is going and how much has been skipped, but that doesn't change the fact that every chapter is still more hype than the last.
A fitting end. Terrible.
Soma latest
The character interactions outside of the matches are still great, but Central and the whole conflict is just bleh. What happened to the Soma that had the Stagiaire and Autumn Festival arcs?
Toriko latest
This is how you do an endgame if you're getting rushed, Kubo. Take notes.
You can tell how fast everything is going and how much has been skipped, but that doesn't change the fact that every chapter is still more hype than the last.
Toriko 383
I give Midora 6 pages at most next chapter because this manga must ruin all its characters in the worst way possible. Meanwhile, Toriko has again gained a hax of over 10 times his old strenght because plot and is now about 1000 times stronger than he was 20 chapters ago, while he became about 3-4 times as strong as he was at the start in the first 100 chapters or so.
Nothing in this life has value really.
EDIT: also apparently God is fine after taking combined attacks from everyone and whatsnot? But he conveniently disappeared from the scene for 2-3 chapters or so.
Bah. At least i got a couple of Setsuno panels being a badass old woman.
I give Midora 6 pages at most next chapter because this manga must ruin all its characters in the worst way possible. Meanwhile, Toriko has again gained a hax of over 10 times his old strenght because plot and is now about 1000 times stronger than he was 20 chapters ago, while he became about 3-4 times as strong as he was at the start in the first 100 chapters or so.
Nothing in this life has value really.
EDIT: also apparently God is fine after taking combined attacks from everyone and whatsnot? But he conveniently disappeared from the scene for 2-3 chapters or so.
Bah. At least i got a couple of Setsuno panels being a badass old woman.
TheRealTalker
Banned
Toriko 383
Forever teasing us who the Father is
We all know it is Midora... or a twist Acacia
it isn't even going to be crazier then that
End game is a 10 year timeskip with pairings and two kids
Forever teasing us who the Father is
We all know it is Midora... or a twist Acacia
it isn't even going to be crazier then that
End game is a 10 year timeskip with pairings and two kids
TheRealTalker
Banned
Toriko - 383
Man i know this chapter is supposed to be bad because there are deus ex machina wherever you turn but boy oh boy they are so damn fun to read... i have the usual stupid grin on my face
same even though a bunch of stuff has happened due to it being rushed
every time a read the latest chapter I have a grin on my face
Toriko - 383
Man i know this chapter is supposed to be bad because there are deus ex machina wherever you turn but boy oh boy they are so damn fun to read... i have the usual stupid grin on my face
I get hype then i remember than all my favorite chars were murdered literally or figuratively and i imagine Midora is gonna get murdered both literally and figuratively and FeelsBadMan. Guinness remembering Jirou has still more emotion than all of Bleach.
TheRealTalker
Banned
They're all terrible in comparison tho'. Like really, except for HxH, OP which i don't particularly like anyway, and Shokugeki before the Autumn Elections arc the rest was literally garbage. Toriko suffered a lot from having a non-bishonen kid MC and an anime adaptation that was butchered and brought the faith of Jump in it a lot. Plus, honestly, the manga itself had an high in the first 100 chapters that was never there again sadly.
BassForever
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Nah Toriko's peak was the century soup arc till the arc before that giant monster arc. The first 100 chapters take waaaaay too long to find its groove.
Oh yeah the century soup arc, the arc where some lvl 60s insects were seen as some sort of natural disasters
TheRealTalker
Banned
I don't think he will appear
maybe some spirit thing like Gohan and Goku's kamehameha wave against cell
I also think Midora won't die
likely get beat? Yes but not actually die
Plus in this chapter Pair said that the cells will eat and kill Acacia but Acacia replied that he had some plan for that with a secret course
I have a feeling he won't get to it and instead that will be his downfall
I liked the Gourmet Casino arc, the Food Honour stuff and also the Cola arc too
tons of fun arcs... tons of time to reflect on the arc with post arcs and also later post training stuff
but sales matter and even good sales mean nothing for Shueshia if it isn't above and beyond like OP
I have a feeling most series from her on out will have a 300-400 chapter range
BassForever
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Toriko's rushed finale is frustrating in a different way to Naruto's or Bleach's. The latter it felt like I was reading wasted potential by authors that clearly had no plan to expand their series the way they did and seemingly didn't get what made their series good in the first place. Toriko its clear the author gets what is good about his series and we get glimpses of it in this finale, but its so rushed and condensed that I have to wonder what could have been if he got another 300 chapters to work with.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Shokugeki no Soma
Obvious twist is obvious. I consider it bad that the actual story is less compelling than just seeing the students sitting around doing slice of life stuff because it means the plot is missing something.
Basically, the Central plot fucking sucks.
Obvious twist is obvious. I consider it bad that the actual story is less compelling than just seeing the students sitting around doing slice of life stuff because it means the plot is missing something.
Basically, the Central plot fucking sucks.
TheRealTalker
Banned
pretty much my thoughts too
the other series were literally out of steam
while Toriko is going to the gallows when it has so many places and things it can still do and go to
universes beyond, food galore, more character stuff
the endless possibilities
I wanted some space adventures stuff akin to Space dandy in worlds and I know Mitsutoshi would be up for the task
the other series were literally out of steam
while Toriko is going to the gallows when it has so many places and things it can still do and go to
universes beyond, food galore, more character stuff
the endless possibilities
I wanted some space adventures stuff akin to Space dandy in worlds and I know Mitsutoshi would be up for the task
Century soup is chapter 80 or so and is pinnacle i agree. But i like more the chapters before than the ones after if only because Toriko is such a powerful and competent MC and there's so much worldbuilding, hyping Starjun in the puffer whale cave, as well as Jirou (RIP), then the regal mammoth arc giving closure to the Toriko-Starjun first fight, the first serious fights for the Kings, then the introduction and hyping of the Gourmet World with the BB corn and knowing the second sous chef Grinpartch, then the Ice Hell is just perfect. The subsequents arcs i find them a bit too slow after Ichyryuu give Toriko the list of ingredients to fetch, and the climaxes to most of those arcs are pretty shitty. Melk stardust arc has no big fight nor final big moment and Komatsu's Knife is pretty inconsequential till now, even if it was nice knowing Melk (which was hiped in like chapter 40 when they shop for knifes), the Deathfalls too have no climax fight or anything. Gourmet Pyramid final fight feel rushed and a level 90 beast is much weaker than it should've been after having a Regal Mammoth at 40 and Gaoh at 120 nuking with a casual swing. Gourmet Temple has a decent climax and good final fight, but it has such a seriously slow build up to it and don't move further the story at all basically. That's like 100-150 chapters of training arcs. EDIT: forgot about the casino arc, which again, had no final fight, no story progression. I agree it had some nice wordlbuilding and shit, but the arcs before had worldbuilding on top of progressing the story, showing us more backstory (altought the Casino arc introduce Joa) and having amazing fights at the end.
Personally i think that after the Ice Hell arc Toriko should've kept having more serious arcs consistently like before it, considering he had its first fight with a sous chef (Tommy) and needed to move in the gourmet wolrd, instead we get about a hundred chapters or so of training and ingredient gathering that could've been greatly condensed or at least given better content in term of story, as they were mostly devoid of it. The pacing was destroyed completely.
Also, Gourmet's world didn't need to be that absurdly harsh, Toriko had been estabilshed as a top tier Human world fighter at the very beginning, he should've been able to go in there before being capture level 1000 or so, but already when he was around 100. I understand thematically the author wanted to keep the two worlds separated, but little dips in the GW to procure low level ingredients from there after the ice Hell could've been fine, given that the universe had estabilished Tommy as being able to go in there and Tommy was nowhere as strong as Gaou. Being in the Gourmet World while not able to contest the most powerful beasts would've helped keeping a sense of danger and exploration to it , a sense of danger that was lost from the first arcs where enviroments and beasts were not simply a backdrop but half the adventure in each arc was surviving them. A sense of danger being always present would've given an excuse to involve the more powerful and interesting NPCs that instead suffered from the fate of many shonens of being hiped but suddendly never present for a reason or another, like Teppei, Mansam, Shige, old lady Setsu all the 0 biotope guys. Instead, all of those guys suffered from the fate of NPC in trashy shonens, they were hiped as super strong and then basically were stomped the moment they fought or never fought at all, both allies and enemies (Alfaro is emblematic seriously, he literally disappeared between chapters as he was fighting the moment Midora appeared). What made an arc like Ice Hell good was the constant buildup, the constant difficulties all the guys faced, the mistery and the play of greater players behind (Teppei being super hyped then Alfaro and Setsuno appearing at the end), and the amazing climax fight with everything at stake. There was literally no wasted space, exposition was good and never overstayed its welcome, other chars had all their story moments and fights, and even while the main char lost, he was shown as having great growth and was saved at the very end. All this while everyone acted competent and aware of their own limits, like Toriko when he was worried about who killed the Tundra Dragon, or aware that Tommy was probably stronger than him, or Teppei absolutely sure of being able to stomp Tommy and level 80 wild beasts (which were a bit off-scale for sure given what we see later), but suddendly ordering to retreat as he feel the presence of Setsuno and Alfaro. Alfaro that himself decided not to pursue after a brief encounter with Setsuno.
Seriously everyone was such a competent fighter in the first 100 chapters, knowing their relative strenghts at a glance and deciding to retreat or fight consistently (like Toriko and Coco knowing they would've been killed in the sandy beach cave if they had fought with Star, and Toriko still not wanting to fight Star 30 chapters later despite him being a good deal stronger ), then after a while everyone become an arrogant shitface who charge headon in fights constantly sure to curbstomp only to be curbstomped in half a page (like half of the bishokukai vice-chefs vs Toriko that are 100% sure of being able to stomp him and can't even last a page and get literally erased from existence with a casual swing, or Toriko that think he's able to last some minutes vs the Horse King and get half his body blown away by a snort before he can even throw an attack, and then again vs the Monkey King less than 40 chapters later he's cocky as shit and get owned again zzz).
EDIT2: plus , beside all of this there's the fact that the Gourmet world ecosystem was completely and utterly skipped, and in general the enviroment became simply a backdrop. The Gourmet world was fucking robbed.
TheRealTalker
Banned
indeed they knew their limits and acting accordingly
they were literally like predators with strategy and instincts
when I looks through my old volumes I can't help but feel amazed at the past Toriko arcs
people say they see a major shift from DB to DBZ
well Toriko part 1 is way more balanced and interesting then Toriko part 2
Shouta
Member
Kishimoto made a way better case even without the movie though, lol.
You could definitely say Rukia and Byakuya were more likely. Even Ichigo and Rukia. Renji is the only one that is like "whut?" to me. Does that guy even have fans?
Stone Ocean
Member
He seems to have a ton of fans, just not fans that would pair him up with any female character.
Who says he did that? It's all he cares about. He obviously is gonna get beat and reveal his true motive which is keeping his loved one safe. He probably got her her own research center or something. The turn-around that's gonna happen is so predicatable and unsurprising that it isn't real drama but another match to look forward to.
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