Graphics Horse
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http://a1.gamesradar.com/xbox360/bu.../a-2007110910640781070/g-20060829171446763057
Who were these guys saying it was 200 square miles anyway?
Who were these guys saying it was 200 square miles anyway?
Map Comparison: Burnout Paradise Map isn't 200 sq miles
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LiquidMetal14
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The island expansion helps a little but the world definitely feels big enough.jett said:
JC2 is just big for the sake of it. The only issue is the world feels dead compared to GTA. Great looking on PC too.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
It's very surprising that there isn't some sort of official database that compares the sizes of today's largest game worlds. I'd be very interested in such data.
Owch.Amir0x said:
On topic: I have Paradise on the PC, and I sincerely doubt that there's 218 miles of roads in that game. Unless they're talking about additional DLC packs like Big Surf Island, which the PC version never got. Yes, I still mad about that.
I really want to try out Just Cause 2, but my XP PC won't run it. So, which of the two console versions is generally considered better? No system wars, please.
SneakyStephan
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All I know is that the JC2 world really is ridiculously huge, you can drive for hours and never see the same sight twice.
Chauncy Talon
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Wario64 said:
I'm more confused then they Dolph London finding out he have been offered a movie role. Can you give me a better explanation on this.
LiquidMetal14
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If we're going to judge these games on scale I would not even put BP in that category. Or we can put the games in which you can traverse almost every bit of a map versus those like BP, Midnight Club, or Crazy Taxi (lol?) in which you can't even get out of the car. I don't really know if it's fair to compare it to real open world games like GTA, RDR, JC2, or inFamous.
-bakalhau-
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So many big worlds, so many of them such a waste. Burnout Paradise... Such a boring city. Looked the same everywhere, bland all the time... Big Surf Island looked amazing though. Varied, colorful. What gives?
Fuel. Had everything to be the best open world in racers to date. Absolutely huge, and extremely diverse. Such a shame it was bland, boring, and bad looking. And despite the variety in environments, it was still repetitive.
Yet smaller ones feel bigger and more fun, like GTA or WoW. I hope for the day we'll have worlds even bigger than Just Cause 2 with all the detail of a GTA.
Fuel. Had everything to be the best open world in racers to date. Absolutely huge, and extremely diverse. Such a shame it was bland, boring, and bad looking. And despite the variety in environments, it was still repetitive.
Yet smaller ones feel bigger and more fun, like GTA or WoW. I hope for the day we'll have worlds even bigger than Just Cause 2 with all the detail of a GTA.
Ya but almost every square mile of it has content to go with it, even if that content is a "kill X amount of y" or "collect x amount of y"DoctorWho said:
This map is also different, seeing how they redid a majority of the world map with Cataclysm and they're missing off a large amount of zones on that map, including underground places, instances etc.
In a pure size comparison, there is no way that Burnout is close to WoW in size.
brain_stew
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Dambrosi said:
360.
Chuck Norris
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WoW wouldn't feel as big if you were driving a kilometers every ten seconds like in BOP
DoctorWho said:
Well, you have to distinguish between games that are actually designed and those that are mostly procedurally generated, of course. Elite's larger than most games in terms of pure cubic mileage, but it's procedurally generated and very sparsely populated. Daggerfall is *ridiculously* huge, but it's again mainly an automatically-generated wasteland.
I *think* WoW is pretty much all-designed; while some decoration may have been applied procedurally, the majority of the playable content is crafted, at least to *some* extent. Burnout Paradise was definitely all hand-built.
People pointed out the idiotic scale of the Burnout Map a year ago, because it's the most obvious. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=395845DoctorWho said:
The easy spot is that the docked ships are the length of entire WoW zones, which was pointed out in the original thread. This map made news site rounds but I never understood why, and I don't understand why it's being posted again. It was either made up by some idiot, some liar, or some viral marketer.
-bakalhau-
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DoctorWho said:
Gonna fly around now, will post back later.
Relaxed Muscle
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Also I'm pretty sure Nightfall isn't that big: is not like every part of that map is explorable.
Ickman3400
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DoctorWho said:
Even with the fastest mount it still takes a while to fly through an area if you're not taking the shortest route. It's a huge improvement over anything else the game offers but it still takes too damn long IMO.
ConradCervantes
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Goddamn, Just Cause 2 is gigantic. Perhaps too much so; I'd get so distracted with causing chaos that I'd never get anything important done. I've clocked in forty hours and have completed 42% of the grave. It's so much fun though that I really couldn't care less.
Ickman3400
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Yeah JC2 is massive. I remember getting in one of those tiny jets that go the fastest and flying from one end of the map to the other took over 5 minutes. Probably closer to 10 minutes of real time. Doesn't sound like much but those jets fly insanely fast.
-bakalhau-
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LiquidMetal14
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And not to clown on JC2 but sometimes it felt like they just stretched those fields with bumps and stuff unnecessarily. Don't get me wrong, there are collectibles scattered everywhere but the world was too big and many of the mass goes unused. It is impressively big but again, feels lifeless. Love that you can deep sea dive though. Now I want to play it :/
I knew I should have bit on it when it was like 6 on Steam.
I knew I should have bit on it when it was like 6 on Steam.
A Human Becoming
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mclem said:
People really give Daggerfall too much credit. I'd rather have a smaller world with distinct locations than randomly generated bullshit.
There was an interesting article on Kotaku awhile back on how measures in video games have a tendency to not make any sense. Link.
Even apart from that, I still don't understand how a designer can pretend to measure digital geometry in any meaningful way when they're just arbitrarily determining the scaling. Unless I'm missing something.
Even apart from that, I still don't understand how a designer can pretend to measure digital geometry in any meaningful way when they're just arbitrarily determining the scaling. Unless I'm missing something.
NEOPARADIGM
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The M.O.B said:
Uh, because posts like that a trademark of GAF's sense of humor. This comment, on the other hand, is some uptight backseat-modding bullshit. Neither funny nor contributory.
revolverjgw
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ReturnOfTheRAT said:
I'm one of the 5 people in the world that liked that game. But the world was needlessly huge.
-bakalhau-
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gotee12 said:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=36024
Try not to get your mind blown lol
Eh, Daggerfall kind of cheats, as its world is far from continuous. If I recall, there are a dozen or so generic tiles for each type of terrain, and the world map is just a bunch of those stitched together with loading screens in between, plus a few special additions sprinkled onto the maps that have story-relevant content.RoboPlato said:
Here are some more numbers.
True Crime Streets of L.A
- 240 square miles
Star Wars Galaxies
- 200 square miles
Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising
- 135 square miles
Superman Returns
-80 Square Miles
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
- 22 square miles
FallOut 3
- 15 square miles
A post that dismisses the effort put into the OP is Gaf's sense of humor? I think not. I don't want to derail this thread responding to you, but I was meaning for that guy to show the OP some respect. Not Backseating.
True Crime Streets of L.A
- 240 square miles
Star Wars Galaxies
- 200 square miles
Operation Flashpoint Dragon Rising
- 135 square miles
Superman Returns
-80 Square Miles
Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
- 22 square miles
FallOut 3
- 15 square miles
NEOPARADIGM said:
A post that dismisses the effort put into the OP is Gaf's sense of humor? I think not. I don't want to derail this thread responding to you, but I was meaning for that guy to show the OP some respect. Not Backseating.
yellow submarine
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The best part about JC2 being so huge was it had a nice variety of areas. Each area had it's own theme, like city or jungle or village, and I couldn't notice any copy-pasta layouts.
Each location had it's own layout. The military bases were similar, used the same buildings, but each one was laid out in it's own unique fashion. I don't even know how they managed to get all of the airfields looking different, I mean.. it's a runway and a bunch of buildings!
But they did, and so it is currently the best open-world game that I've played. I can't wait for JC3, I hope they continue with the high standards they set in JC2, and don't fall victim to the "oh lets just slap on a multiplayer component onto this map and re-release it" idea.
Each location had it's own layout. The military bases were similar, used the same buildings, but each one was laid out in it's own unique fashion. I don't even know how they managed to get all of the airfields looking different, I mean.. it's a runway and a bunch of buildings!
But they did, and so it is currently the best open-world game that I've played. I can't wait for JC3, I hope they continue with the high standards they set in JC2, and don't fall victim to the "oh lets just slap on a multiplayer component onto this map and re-release it" idea.
AlphaTwo00
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If everything drives like shit then it doesn't really matter how big the map is.bender said: