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The end of taglines meaning something era.
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
Nah, after next mania, Taker will be 21-bo. Dominant Daddy Dallas will taker over the moniker Triple D.
I have a friend who only watches Raw, he's not from the US, but he lives here now, he had no idea what NXT, Main Event or Saturday Morning Slam is. He skips Smackdown because "none of the big names ever show up."
He doesn't care about dirtsheets, he was honestly surprised Cena won the Rumble and Punk lost to the Rock. He's a great gauge of the actual WWE audience and not wrestling fans who watch WWE.
SmackDown has been put in a weird place since the Supershow Raws since all of Smackdown's talent shows up on Raw, but none of Raw's talent shows up on Smackdown.
Conrad Link
Member
So I just finished watching the HoF with Drew Carey haha, wow he did not get a very good reception.
I almost felt sorry for him. Yikes. O_O
Did they all just agree before hand "F**K THIS GUY, RIGHT?" :lol
Why he was there I'll never know, but Vince is gonna Vince, I don't agree with it I think if they have to have them there are other celebs way more deserving but maaan, hostile as environment lol, like I said I started feeling sorry for him even though I agreed with the ones doing the hostilities.
I almost felt sorry for him. Yikes. O_O
Did they all just agree before hand "F**K THIS GUY, RIGHT?" :lol
Why he was there I'll never know, but Vince is gonna Vince, I don't agree with it I think if they have to have them there are other celebs way more deserving but maaan, hostile as environment lol, like I said I started feeling sorry for him even though I agreed with the ones doing the hostilities.
The more ignorant you are of something, the less critical you are of it, and the more you honestly enjoy life. The more you're aware of something and can take it apart, the less enjoyment you get out of it. The Internet has had a detrimental effect on wrestling due to this.
British Monsoon
Member
F4W are reporting that WWE wants to beef up the Divas Division but backed off the idea of bringing any of the NXT girls up to the main roster. They've reportedly spoke to Divas who left in the past couple of years and offered them more money than they were on previously to return, which is why the Bellas returned on RAW last night.
I'm OK with this - Paige has talent, but it's worthless bringing her up without someone good to work with (like Natayla, if only she were more than a valet for Khali nowadays). Hopefully they can convince Kharma to come back.
I'm OK with this - Paige has talent, but it's worthless bringing her up without someone good to work with (like Natayla, if only she were more than a valet for Khali nowadays). Hopefully they can convince Kharma to come back.
It's funny that you believe WWE will actually take the women's division seriously.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
Things HAVE been changing...
True.
I just wish they had better writing and direction. Mostly everyone enjoyed the turn of the century wrestling. They should aim to please everyone!
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
1. Stop calling them Divas
2. Get rid of the butterfly belt
3. Get rid of most of the division
4. Give them 45 seconds instead of the 30 they usually get.
2. Get rid of the butterfly belt
3. Get rid of most of the division
4. Give them 45 seconds instead of the 30 they usually get.
Conrad Link
Member
Cena can't be trusted lol, N Bella is back to keep an eye on him.
Needs D-Bry to be a good influence on him.
Whoo Bellas are back!
Needs D-Bry to be a good influence on him.
Whoo Bellas are back!
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Banned
Natalya/AJ vs kaitlyn could be an awesome mania match. But we will get stuck with a battle royal.
Also I was under the impression that pair was too young to be on tv.
Also I was under the impression that pair was too young to be on tv.
British Monsoon
Member
The fact that they're looking to boost the numbers in the Divas division at least shows they're doing something. I'd just be happy with matches that went at least 5 minutes, but not with some of the dead weight on the roster (and to be fair, the Bellas aren't going to help much there).
Cena can't be trusted lol, N Bella is back to keep an eye on him.
Needs D-Bry to be a good influence on him.
Whoo Bellas are back!
She came back to market those WrestleMania chairs. Now you too can experience the positive effects of siting on John Cena's face!
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Banned
Wonder if the offered Mrs taker a job
She doesn't need the money, as long as papa Taker is happy.
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I guess but I thought laycool/ Mickie fued was pretty good
Would be nice to have one heel diva
Would be nice to have one heel diva
Spider from Mars
tap that thorax
#Ibelieveinlaycool
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Women's wrestling is a waste of time unless you can make money from sexualising then.
I'm sure they're sexualised on the road if you know what I mean.
So who did Punk have to blow to get the longest title run in 25 years? Trips? Vince himself? Johnny Ace?
British Monsoon
Member
Nope.
Women's wrestling can be just as good as men's wrestling, given the right performers and a willingness to promote them as more than just pretty faces.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I think Daniel Bryan has discovered Tumblr.
https://mobile.twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/status/311531411641344000
https://mobile.twitter.com/WWEDanielBryan/status/311531411641344000
Nope.
Women's wrestling can be just as good as men's wrestling, given the right performers and a willingness to promote them as more than just pretty faces.
But what draws more money?
Yeah I realize that Trish/Lita was awesome...but those women were smoking hot.
What about Karma? Well it probbaly only worked because she was destroying Barbie dolls.
Not to be mean, but I don't see how much money you can draw from fugly women wrestling, no matter how talented they are. There has to be sex appeal to a degree.
I mean look at mma women fighters. What's the main attraction?
Dthomp
Member
Yeah, here's hoping on that one. I think it would go wonders to getting us involved in other wrestlers and wouldn't have to hope for all these Indy signings to get people we know. I mean look at the Attitude Era with the sheer amount of midcarders who would get TV time to talk or have a segment to help build loyalty to the superstar. Guys that were pretty over like Val Venis, Godfather, Rikishi them types would have an almost impossible time getting over in todays WWE without the chance to be themselves out there.
Some of these guys we currently have could be much better off with just the chance to develop a personality. I want a reason to give a crap about Kofi but they don't give me any reason as is. Let guys that clearly have personality like Barrett and Cesaro do more then just job to lesser talent, and for the love of god stop with pushing guys like Ryberg who can't talk continue to do so. They had a chance to do something with him after the rumble and just kind of went "meh" and threw Mark Henry at him, instead of giving him a mouthpiece like Swagger got. All those Bobby Heenan interviews that got posted make me really in the mood for some managers/valets
Chris Benoit was not what I would call an attractive guy.
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Speaking of crappy fan art. Where has soulplaya been
haha. Maryse was like "nope."
Mr. Enigma
Member
I'd love for Beth Phoenix to come back. Kelly Kelly can stay home, however.
You would think he'd be here for Paul Bearer's send off. I guess getting ready for med school is too much.
If Kelly comes back before AJ is champ I might have to kill someone. I could not have peace with that.
lol
British Monsoon
Member
Sure, there has to be a mixture of talent and looks, just like with men's wrestling, but just like with men's wrestling there is definitely a place for the tough & ugly bruiser-type in women's wrestling.
AJW is the most successful women's wrestling promotion of all time and they did it with a formula of tough, nasty heavyweights beating the crap out of the cute and innocent young starlets, but the difference was that they had talent across the board and those same girls who were making a killing for AJW selling sexy photoshoots and videos could kick ass in the ring and were given the opportunity to do so.
jmdajr said:
Do the Divas actually draw money in their current state? They're there to check a box, because at some level WWE recognise that having women wrestling, having them as role models for a younger audience (as well as eye candy for an older audience), is beneficial to the product. But I wouldn't say they're an actual draw, so what's the harm in at least trying to present women's wrestling as a credible part of the show, rather than an afterthought?
Kiever Sher
Member
Nope.
Women's wrestling can be just as good as men's wrestling, given the right performers and a willingness to promote them as more than just pretty faces.
Do you happen to know what match that's from. Been watching a ton of Hokuto 93 stuff, such a ridiculous year for her. I feel I should try to watch everything else she did next.
But what draws more money?
Yeah I realize that Trish/Lita was awesome...but those women were smoking hot.
What about Karma? Well it probbaly only worked because she was destroying Barbie dolls.
Not to be mean, but I don't see how much money you can draw from fugly women wrestling, no matter how talented they are. There has to be sex appeal to a degree.
I mean look at mma women fighters. What's the main attraction?
Given their money and visibility, WWE could be a leader in empowering women, but they choose to do nothing but slut shame, sexualize, and demean females. I love a good-looking woman, but when the collateral damage left behind this approach is male fans chanting "slut," "whore," and "bitch" from ring side due to the fact they're angry at women for rejecting them in their lives, there's a problem.
Plus, if you're going to go all stereotypical with women, why not do jealousy storylines? Why not do relationships and cheating? Why not have a couple of "bullies" who are angry and jealous of the good-looking ones? Why not go down that route and then have one of the bullies turn face when they break down and talk about their insecurities, and are then taught about their inner strength and beauty by one of the other faces?
There's a lot of potential if creative would stop slobbering at the tight asses in the dressing room.
There's a lot of potential if creative would stop slobbering at the tight asses in the dressing room.
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Deleted member 47027
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Yeah, it's 2013, we should really be beyond that.
Charmicarmicat
Banned
Can someone just recap what was so bad about the Maddox segment last night? Heard stuff about it being awkward and horrible but can't find a decent recap of it.
But the Bellas are dating Cena and Bryan. Punk has dated several. Taker is married McCool and so on.
B A STAR.
That reminds me of how much more Layla was on TV when they were doing fundraising for breast cancer. Feels kind of gross, really.
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Deleted member 47027
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BUT THAT DOESNT MEAN THEYRE PASSED AROUND! :O
Didn't say they were!