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March WrassleGAF |SHOW-T| Big Shoes Mean Big Appetites
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I love Maryse candid photos more.
WE. The People.
WWE.
Maybe Sin Cara feels insulted by some American dude wearing a Luchador mask for comedy?
You can always give him the mask back later. It's the kind of gimmick you can jump into and still make sense with. Have him get hit in the head, wake up and the first thing he sees is Sin Cara, so he starts believing he's a luchador.
That'd be awesome, but I think if there is one dude on the indies that needs zero changing to fit in perfectly in WWE, it's Generico. Maybe tone down some head droppy stuff and he's absolutely perfect and TV ready exactly how he is. There is no way he wouldn't be over after two appearances if he did exactly what he did in PWG on Raw. It's particularly weird since Claudio, Hero, and PAC have been exactly the same just with different names.
Maybe Generico didn't want to sell them the rights to his mask?
Then use a different, even more generic mask. The mask is such an important part of him. The same WWE that not only made Rey put his mask back on (EXCELLENT call, though), but also blurred out footage of Rey in the last 2 years of WCW for years would sign a guy who is great for kids and has built in merchandise, but removes the merch opportunity from the start?
I guess it worked out for ADR, though.
I guess it worked out for ADR, though.
Isn't her gimmick essentially being goofy as hell?
Makes for fun gifs though.
Easy on the alcyhol girlfriend
y ya'll hate Rocky, I don't get it? He's about the only reason to watch WWE, along with Punk.
I would say in a way Ryder has overachieved really. Considering his gimmick and ring skills, he went pretty far.
We don't hate The Rock.
I do hate current era "haha, I bought a car and there was a crachhead on the backseat haha" while King and Cole go *snicker*snort* on commentary - Rock.
Also, the fact they put the title on him when he wasn't able to commit to every Raw between the Rumble and WrestleMania was a catastrophic mistake on WWE's part.
I really hope that makes it.
Ah, lol. My mistake. I'm just surprised at how much shit people throw at him in this thread or the Internet in general. The comments section in SEScoops will give you a headache, for example.
So, you think they should have kept it on Punk or go with Cena? Because we all know those are the other realistic choices.
I wish Robbie E had been in Zack Ryder's spot, which says a lot because the idea of Robbie E as a Ryder knock off was embarrassing, especially since they only hired him because he was a lot cheaper than an ROH guy. As it turns out, Robbie E has been one of the most enjoyable dudes in TNA after his first month or so.
Robbie E is way funnier, douchier in the best way possible, and is at least on par if not slightly better than Ryder in the ring. But he's so much more into his character and stooging off that it's always awesome.
Does anyone really think that Rock being on every Raw would be making anyone want to see Twice in a Lifetime any more? Or that the WWE Championship would really matter more? I mean, the WWE Championship really didn't mean a whole lot since last Spring. Is Rock not even being on the show any worse than Punk's reign not meaning anything until AFTER he lost it?
Robbie E is way funnier, douchier in the best way possible, and is at least on par if not slightly better than Ryder in the ring. But he's so much more into his character and stooging off that it's always awesome.
Does anyone really think that Rock being on every Raw would be making anyone want to see Twice in a Lifetime any more? Or that the WWE Championship would really matter more? I mean, the WWE Championship really didn't mean a whole lot since last Spring. Is Rock not even being on the show any worse than Punk's reign not meaning anything until AFTER he lost it?
Conrad Link
Member
F**k it man NXT sounds so much more interesting than Raw. >_>
We use to get it here on TV and I really enjoyed it, ended at the start of the year though and now we have Main Event showing in its place. :| :| :| :| :|
Main Event which is just Smackdown-shitty-light (if you can believe that) and I get to see the same dumb matches a thousand times. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I would seriously rather watch Saturday Morning Slam than Main Event. F**king Miz piss off.
We use to get it here on TV and I really enjoyed it, ended at the start of the year though and now we have Main Event showing in its place. :| :| :| :| :|
Main Event which is just Smackdown-shitty-light (if you can believe that) and I get to see the same dumb matches a thousand times. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I would seriously rather watch Saturday Morning Slam than Main Event. F**king Miz piss off.
Lambda Pie
Banned
Rock is one of those "IN 2013!?" type characters. his shtick is boring as fuck, his in-ring work passable and he didn't even bother to show up to put someone new over.
His shtick is boring because he can't get away with the stuff he did back in 2001.
And if he changed his shtick, people would all be whining that he changed it and should have kept the old one.
His fine, I really don't mind it. Still entertaining. I'll take Rock's old shtick over almost everyone on the roster.
I would agree with you if they turned him heel, but not with this shit he's been doing since 2004.
Mr. Luchador
Member
You speaking bad about The Rock?!
Hey, if you like your go home promo's to be about crackheads on the backseats of cars, more power to ya.
Mr. Luchador
Member
No respect for the people who built this industry from the ground up. The Rock made Hollywood what it is today, dammit. You youngbloods.
Conrad Link
Member
Cause then I'd have nothing to complain about.
Dwayne is terrible, everything about him is fake, I don't believe he's there 'for the love of the fans' and all that BS yet we have to hear about it all the time. His terrible stories blabbing on about nothing are worst than ever and all his promos in general are just word jumble fillers that make the morons on commentary snicker at its 'hilarity'.
His whole act is so boring and tired, he achieved the impossible in making me want Cena..... the king of tired wrestling shit to win. That is a pretty good accomplishment. :|
The fact that he is the WWE champion and in the main event AGAIN instead of Cena vs Punk (the feud that should have been the top thing in the company) and can't even commit to showing up to promote the biggest PPV of the year for a few weeks is a disgrace. They've even been hiding Cena mostly because it looks bad him being there and Dwayne not.
Now instead of having an awesome match we'll have zzzzzzzzzzzzzz head lock cause Hollywood Dwayne needs a breather.
Stuff that guy.
Oh look I found something else to complain about.
Officerrob
Banned
I love Rock, and will always consider his "Hollywood" phase some of the most entertaining wrestling stuff I have ever seen. The problem is that current day Rock does absolutely nothing for me. His promos are stale and boring (his car with a crackhead in it promo was Cena quality), he's hardly ever there, and he has zero stamina which results in his matches being a series of rest holds
Pft, I've been watching wrestling since I was seven or so. If Rock wants to piss on his own legacy by giving bad promo's, that's on him!
You know what's awesome? Bork is basically exactly the same character he was when he debuted in 2002, yet is taken more seriously than the entire roster, with Mark Henry being the only dude even close to his level of "shit is about to get real" when he arrives. Big bad ass who fucks people up never goes out of style.
It'd be even BETTER today, since he's actually a movie star now and really can't be bothered to show up to the wrestling shows. 2003 was a "uuuhh, Vince, I'm not sure this movie thing is working out like we thought, can I come back for a bit?".
Well, yeah, Hollywood Rock is legendary. And he could absolutely pull it off these days, kind of a waste.
He really isn't. He hasn't even been seen in two weeks, and when he's there, he just has lame segments with Cena.
Yes we all loved him a decade ago, but he's not getting a free pass now, he's not done anything interesting since about January. Even then he's lost all his character he once had, he's basically Rocky Maivia, with more jokes (all that nonstop praising of the "people").
We're still in March. Cena hasn't done anything interesting since 2006.
Officerrob
Banned
Just because you hate Cena, shouldn't automatically mean you are for whoever he is going up against.
They can both be bad characters.
It certainly doesn't do Rock any favors, but his feud with Punk wasn't that amazing either.
Rock should get "You have lost it" chants during his promo's.
They can both be bad characters.
It certainly doesn't do Rock any favors, but his feud with Punk wasn't that amazing either.
Rock should get "You have lost it" chants during his promo's.
He's like Portuguese football.
Lambda Pie
Banned
bingo.
guys who got over on in-ring work, either due to the brutality or high level technique of it, are always over.
look at Vader, he never got boring cause he didn't base his work around forced promos, repeating ad-nauseam stupid puns till they became chants with the live crowds. he got over because he destroyed guys in the ring and that never gets old.
British Monsoon
Member
Rock isn't the problem, it's WWE. They need Rock because they have no one else to draw that mainstream appeal - now, considering their inability to create stars that have a true cultural impact as guys like Austin, Hogan & The Rock did, you'd think that they'd perhaps alter their business model to something aimed at pleasing the core audience year round and making sure as many of those regular viewers buy Mania as possible, rather than pandering to a group of hardly-fans who are only ever going to buy Mania and only Mania. It's all well and good doing that when you've got these part-timers to draw mainstream interest for the biggest show of the year, but what happens when Rock's gone, Brock's gone, Cena's retired, etc? What happens when you're left with a bunch of guys who are only famous to wrestling fans? Start pandering to them, I guess, but perhaps by then it'll be too late.
Vince is all about instant gratification and thinking about the immediate payoff. No long term thinking in any aspect of the company.
Does Rock really draw in people who aren't wrestling fans, or just lapsed fans who tune into see him return, and then tune out when they find the 3 1/2 hour show every Monday is fucking awful? I don't think people who never watch wrestling and only know him from Fast 5 or Disney movies is going to throw down $70 to see him wrestle on PPV.