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Kaladin

Member
I get back from a great concert and hear that Paul Bearer passed away tonight. One of the greatest managers of all time. Rest in Peace.
 

elektrixx

Banned
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Kaladin

Member
Seriously, Paul Bearer was the greatest character WWE has ever created. I dare anyone to find a better character that WWE developed consistently over a 20 + year period.
 

Anth0ny

Member
on a somewhat lighter note...

any of you guys ever hear of the wwe app? i hear it lets you watch raw during commercials.

well for the first time ever, I wanted to watch during the commercials. that was during the punk/cena match last week. anyone know if the match exists in its entirety, commercial footage and all, anywhere? or does that shit go straight to the wwe vault, never to be seen again...
 

CrunchinJelly

formerly cjelly
on a somewhat lighter note...

any of you guys ever hear of the wwe app? i hear it lets you watch raw during commercials.

well for the first time ever, I wanted to watch during the commercials. that was during the punk/cena match last week. anyone know if the match exists in its entirety, commercial footage and all, anywhere? or does that shit go straight to the wwe vault, never to be seen again...

One of these:

http://www.wwe.com/videos/john-cena-vs-cm-punk-continues-wwe-app-exclusive-26094394

http://www.wwe.com/videos/john-cena...or-the-wwe-title-at-wrestlemania-raw-26094420
 

Striker

Member
Checking out some of the Paul Bearer videos in the other thread, and came across this Bobby Heenan interview when discussing the art of promos

Wish more wrestlers followed his guideline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXPaG2Zk6A0
Yeah, no kidding. So very few guys today can cut those types. Not including the older guys like Rock, Jericho, or Taker, you can count those who can do those types of promos on one hand. Whereas in the earlier years, namely guys like Rick Rude, Jake Roberts and also Randy Savage, were masters at it.
 

Jamie OD

Member
on a somewhat lighter note...

any of you guys ever hear of the wwe app? i hear it lets you watch raw during commercials.

well for the first time ever, I wanted to watch during the commercials. that was during the punk/cena match last week. anyone know if the match exists in its entirety, commercial footage and all, anywhere? or does that shit go straight to the wwe vault, never to be seen again...

WWE posted the entire match on Youtube a couple of days after the show but it's offline now. Chances are good that someone downloaded it and uploaded a copy somewhere.

So sad to hear about Bearer.
 

strobogo

Banned
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WCW Monday Nitro 2/19/2001


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God damn it. We're having another funeral? If this shit goes on for a half hour so help me god I will find the cocksucker who booked this and kick him straight in the dick. "I hope the new owners are paying attention to this." They were. That's why only Flair and Scott were hired by Vince. Flair says Nash was a giant among titans. Titans are bigger than giants, right? I can't spoil this gif...

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BANG! DDP is the next victim. Jeff vs Dustin, Buff vs Cat, Kanyon vs DDP, all tonight. Steiner was so tongue tied during this promo. DDP is out in the crowd. "Over here, Einsteiner!" He's going to ruin Kanyon tonight.

A sweet Paper Mario commercial played. Paper Mario was fantastic. Loved it. It was one of the last "holy shit N64 is fucking boss" games to come out.

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TO THE BACK. Ms. Jones congratulates Cat for his win last night. Cat is creating a Cruiserweight Tag Team Division. Starting next Monday, an 8 team tournament will begin to crown new champs at Greed.

Shannon Moore vs Jamie Knoble

Shannon is just off. Everything he's done was awkward or botched. I wonder how tall Jamie Knoble really is. I'm 5'5 and I feel like I might be taller than him. Shannon hits a big somersault plancha, but landed hard on his left ankle. Jamie gets knocked into Evan. Evan then costs Jamie the match out of revenge. Evan and Shannon reunite. 2 Count is back, baby!

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TO THE BACK.
Kidman and Konnan are talking about something. Konnan has the nerve to make fun of Animal's small war crate. They challenge Animal/Chavo to a match tonight.

Mike Awesome vs Bryan Clarke

"Canadian Killer" makes me think he kills Canadians, not that his is a killer from Canada. Prime Time comes in and attacks Wrath, but the ref doesn't call for the bell OR even tell Elix to get out of the ring. Lance comes out and the ref finally calls the match off. Crush comes down for the save. High Times to Elix. High Times to Awesome.

TO THE BACK. Cat is walking with security and tells them to go get Lance Storm.

Cat, Ms. Jones, and security are out at the ramp. Lance is still in the ring. Cat books him against...HUGH MORRIS! I thought they weren't allowed to have any more matches? If Awesome or Prime Time get involved, they will both be fired.

A Kid Romeo package aired. They said he would be making his debut, but he showed up on a number of Nitros and Thunders last year and even won some matches.

Chavo Guerrero Jr/Animal vs Kidman/Konnan

TO THE BACK. Konnan and Animal were brawling in the back. But Chavo is already in the ring! Whatever will be do? Kidman attacks from behind like a good face.

Well, Chavo vs Kidman is certainly better than anything involving Konnan and Animal. After a commercial, 4 refs are trying to separate Chavo and Kidman. Konnan and Animal finally brawl to the ring. Tornado DDT! Konnan does some Quackenbush shit.

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Any time it starts getting good, Konnan or Animal have to shit it up. Rey comes out and hits the WAZZUP leg drop. Kidman hits the Kid Krusher and pins the champ. Animal powerbombs Kidman after the match.

TO THE BACK. Buff heads to the ring.

Buff Bagwell vs The Cat


Cat tries to convince Buff to switch sides, because as men who love their mamas, they are both good hearted men. Buff ambushes Cat. SWERVE! Why are you doing this to me, WCW? You put on a great show the night before and then give me this shit after teasing me with Positively Kanyon? Buff spends the whole match working over Cat's neck, despite his knee injury and taped up ankle. Kanyon comes out. He gets Buff caught on the ropes, leading to a double arm DDT and Blockbuster. Buff wins. Kanyon Cutter to Ms. Jones. BANG! She's dead. I'm sure this was a way to get her off TV so they can stop paying her.

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TO THE BACK. Ms. Jones was taken out in an ambulance. DDP tells Cat to go with her.

Lash LeRoux vs Rick Steiner

Lash got a hair cut. He looks even dumber.

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I'm sure Steiner is going to knock his curls straight. He immediately walks up and punches Lash right in the mouth. Good. Then he throws Lash into the front row where some people were shit talking him. This is just a mean squash. Rick wins with three DVDs.

TO THE BACK. Lash is whining like a bitch with trainers and refs. He may have a broken rib. Scott instructs Kanyon to hit as many Kanyon Cutters on DDP as he can. He also gives Kanyon his special brass knuckles. Hugh talks to no one about Rick Steiner and Lance Storm.

Lance Storm vs Hugh Morris

I doubt Hugh will get much more offense than all of their other matches. About 2 minutes into it, Hugh gets knocked off the ropes and hurts his knee. Of course. Hugh gets to the ropes from the Maple Leaf. Moonsault. Hugh wins! I guess General Rection name was bad luck for Hugh.

TO THE BACK. The American Dweem heads to the ring.

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The American Dweem comes to the ring. I love that WCW really did a JHV of Dusty's WWF music. Complete with cowbell and the same fucking chorus. Dusthy is hungry and eats some chicken in the ring. This is the greatest thing Jeff Jarrett has ever done. His Dusty is so dead on. It's great. Fruit of my loins, oooohhh if you weeeel. We have an exhibition showing what Dusthy can do. Bionic elbows for everyone! The fruit of his loins, Dustin if you weeeel, comes out. Rick Steiner ambushes him. Guitar shot. I don't know why Dustin cared so much. DustyDust was about as offensive. Maybe even more so.

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TO THE BACK. DDP heads to the ring.

A tribute to Dale Earnheart? Really? Lol.

DDP vs Kanyon

I hope for 8 Kanyon Cutters. Through a table. Through a chair. On the chicken. On Tony. In the audience. Off the stage. Off the Nitro Vision. Off the roof. BANG! I wish DDP had been able to save Kanyon. Can you imagine how great DDP Yoga videos would be with Kanyon mugging behind DDP the whole time? Or doing a Kanyon Cutter to one of the chumps at the end of each session as a reward to keep you motivated? KANYON CUTTER! BANG!


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Book to the face! DDP kicks out. The brick didn't get the job done. Twist of Fate Diamond Cutter! DDP wins. DDP gets out into the crowd before Flair's guys can get to him.

This show kind of sucked, especially coming off a really good show the night before.
 
Y'know what, brodawgs? I've managed to hype myself up for Punk/Taker. If there's one guy the streak can realistically end with at this point, it's Punk. He has a good few years left and that win would put him on an entirely new pedestal which he could in turn use to put someone over when HE'S retiring. Plus 20-1 is a way better number than 21-0 or 21-1, or 22-0, depending on when and how Taker hangs it up. And Punk's the only guy left fans wouldn't be absolutely pissed off over if he beat Taker.

IDK, I just don't see the point of Taker remaining undefeated through retirement. Punk's the only guy on the roster right now who could take that win and milk the hell out of it, AND it would add some legitimacy to him if the Austin feud ever happens.

But this all depends on Taker retiring THIS year instead of WM Pornography......which he probably wont....so Punk will just lose in a pointless match and Taker will end up fighting Brock or someone next year....Hype's gone again.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Y'know what, brodawgs? I've managed to hype myself up for Punk/Taker. If there's one guy the streak can realistically end with at this point, it's Punk. He has a good few years left and that win would put him on an entirely new pedestal which he could in turn use to put someone over when HE'S retiring. Plus 20-1 is a way better number than 21-0 or 21-1, or 22-0, depending on when and how Taker hangs it up. And Punk's the only guy left fans wouldn't be absolutely pissed off over if he beat Taker.

IDK, I just don't see the point of Taker carrying that streak to his grave. (teehee) Punk's the only guy on the roster right now who could take that win and milk the hell out of it, AND it would add some legitimacy to him if the Austin feud ever happens.

But this all depends on Taker retiring THIS year instead of WM Pornography......which he probably wont....so Punk will just lose in a pointless match and Taker will end up fighting Brock or someone next year....Hype's gone again.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. If Taker did decide to pass the torch, there are only a handful of people he would do it to and Punk would be the best choice given his passion for wrestling. Sure, he might "retire" at some point, but to see him fully leave the business is unimaginable. I expect Punk to be on the Mania card for at least another decade or two, as long as he's capable.

Now, nobody says a streak has to begin with never losing at WrestleMania either, as I said yesterday, why not start a streak by beating 'Taker, next year he can go, I went 1-0 against Taker, I beat Taker, I am not the WrestleMania legend, then he goes 2-0, 3-0, etc.

It makes business-sense too. They already did the Streak DVD when he went 20-0, if he continues to go on it'll end on a random number. Nobody will ever beat 20-0, but it would be nice if someone could get near that number and they can tease them breaking it. Taker would also just go on a few more years, a younger guy could go another 10 to 15 years at least and be more profitable that way. After all, when Taker does retire, WrestleMania loses one of its main marketable matches, continuing The Streak with a new guy makes alot of sense.

This of course hinges on Taker actually wanting to end the streak, what he says goes. But it's definitely a possibility, more than it was in previous years. Besides, he doesn't really have to quit this year either. What if Punk beats him this year and he returns one last time next year to put him over again. Can't see him going 21-0 and then retiring at 21-1 by putting someone over next year. If he's ever gonna have someone go over him and beat the streak, it would have to be this year.
 

Striker

Member
I'm not convinced either Cena or Punk can be elevated any higher. I think they've reached their apex and it's just middling at this point, as noticed by the ratings once you remove the big stars in Rock and Lesnar. If he wins, it's a bullet point in any feud he has like how Miz went on and on about "main eventing Wrestlemania" and how he won over Cena, blah blah. I mean, once these heavy hitters are gone or are not around, the roster still consists of mostly trash because of how absolutely terrible Vince and the booking team are.

P.S. There should never be a "new streak", it's awful.
 
I never felt so betrayed in my earlier years than when Paul Bearer turned on The Undertaker at Summerslam at the end of the Boiler Room Brawl with Mankind.


RIP Paul Bearer. You were a fantastic showman.
 
This is not the news I wanted to wake up to, Bearer my man, as a managing mouthpiece he helped make Taker and Kane during their silent phases and still had a great part to play when they both started talking up more often.
My favourite manager of all time, i'm gutted, my hopes for Kane/Taker yet again at WM30 wont be the same without his wailing voice.
 

Striker

Member
I never felt so betrayed in my earlier years than when Paul Bearer turned on The Undertaker at Summerslam at the end of the Boiler Room Brawl with Mankind.
His stuff with Mankind and Vader was very good. I think my favorite work was his heel work leading up to debuting Kane.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
Just realised if TNA are moving out of the Impact Zone, that red head in the crowd is prolly not gonna be on anymore. :(

That's okay, not hearing the solitary chants of the drunk guys that make no sense or have needless obscenities in them are gonna be gone too.

As long as they keep drawing crowds it's gonna be an infinitely better show from here on out.
 

Reiko

Banned
I wonder... Should Taker go all the way and put Punk in a body bag in the chance he wins?

Or was WWE pushing that angle too far back then?

Closest we had to that since then was a Casket Match.
 
Huh, 2CW are running a FREE iPPV on April 20th and the card looks pretty good;

"2CW is proud to announce that it’s first IPPV will be an iFFV. iFFV standing for Internet FREE FOR VIEW. On Saturday, April 20th, 2013 2CW’s Flagship Event “Living on the Edge” will take place in Watertown, New York at the Fairgrounds Arena broadcast live and streaming FREE to the WORLD starting at 8 p.m. EST.

With an expected live audience in Watertown of 1,000 plus people 2CW will feature 2CW Heavyweight Champion Kevin Steen VS. John Hennigan (Morrison); Matt Hardy VS. Sami Callihan; Spike Dudley VS. MASADA in a NO HOLDS BARRED WAR; Colt “Boom Boom” Cabana VS. “Slyck” Wagner Brown; “Juggernaut” Jason Axe VS. Isys Ephex in a “Stairway to Hell” Match; and The Punisher VanSlyke & Kevin “The Man” Graham 2CW’s Tag Team Title Challenge. Also featured on the FREE FOR VIEW will be Rachel Summerlyn, Colin Delaney, Super Smash Brothers, Bin Hamin, ZSIII, and many more. Live commentary will be done by the voice of 2CW John McGraw and Color Commentator Jimmy “Jam” Olsen. More matches and talent to be announced.

Watch http://www.2cw.com for more information on more matches and for more information on the iFFV. Using the Tag Lines “#Iam2cw” and “2CW 420: The First Hit is always FREE” accompanying the 2CW Brand, and the talent associated with this show, 2CW hopes to have this show be the highest viewed LIVE streaming independent pro wrestling event of all time."

Haha, holy shit at Masada vs Spike, and Slyk Wagner Brown!! Wow, I haven't seen that dude in YEARS.

I'll be watching this, I mean...it's FREE.
 
Y'know what, brodawgs? I've managed to hype myself up for Punk/Taker. If there's one guy the streak can realistically end with at this point, it's Punk. He has a good few years left and that win would put him on an entirely new pedestal which he could in turn use to put someone over when HE'S retiring. Plus 20-1 is a way better number than 21-0 or 21-1, or 22-0, depending on when and how Taker hangs it up. And Punk's the only guy left fans wouldn't be absolutely pissed off over if he beat Taker.

IDK, I just don't see the point of Taker remaining undefeated through retirement. Punk's the only guy on the roster right now who could take that win and milk the hell out of it, AND it would add some legitimacy to him if the Austin feud ever happens.

But this all depends on Taker retiring THIS year instead of WM Pornography......which he probably wont....so Punk will just lose in a pointless match and Taker will end up fighting Brock or someone next year....Hype's gone again.
Nah Punks gonna job. Cena will break it there's still at least 10 more years of Cena. He will have all the records and titles. Greatest of all time John Cena!!
 

Striker

Member
I wonder... Should Taker go all the way and put Punk in a body bag in the chance he wins?

Or was WWE pushing that angle too far back then?

Closest we had to that since then was a Casket Match.
MVP and Kane had an Inferno match several years ago.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Punk ain't beating Taker, but the fact some of you think he COULD means they picked the right opponent. I just can't wash the 3 minute match where Punk jobbed to the Hells Gate.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I honestly believe there is like a 5% chance he might. So yeah Sun, they picked the right opponent.

Though I would've thought this if he picked another current credible talent other than Punk. Like Sheamus for instance.

You know he's not gonna get beat by a "legend" like HBK or Trips, because what's the point. With a current talent it makes at least some business sense.
 
I'm not going to get myself excited for the idea of Punk breaking the streak, because then I'll be all the more bitter when it doesn't happen. It would be fantastic to see Taker put over Punk like that, though, especially as he gave Punk practically nothing in their last feud. Also, that would certainly take away some of the sting from the inevitable Cena victory that will close the show.

The New Japan Cup 2013 FINAL is now up for pre-order - this one's $25 and is live on March 23rd, 18:30 JST | 09:30 GMT | 04:30 EST | 01:30 PST, with replays running until April 1st, 18:30 JST.

http://www.ustream.tv/njpw

Here's the line-up;

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Predictions, for the hell of it;

3.11 - Makabe beats Yujiro, Nakamura beats Davey Jr, Kojima beats Ishii, Goto beats Tonga, Anderson beats Tenzan, Okada beats Archer, Nagata beats Suzuki, Nakanishi beats Yano

3.17 - Nakamura beats Makabe, Kojima beats Goto, Okada beats Anderson, Nagata beats Nakanishi

3.23 - Nakamura beats Kojima, Okada beats Nagata - FINAL: Nakamura beats Okada

That's probably just the Nakamura fan in me talking - I could actually see him losing to Davey Boy Jr, as Davey's supposed to be the next challenger for the IC title and having him beat Nakamura in the cup would be a good set-up. If Nakamura doesn't win it, I'm going for Kojima - it's been a while since we've had a Tanahashi/Kojima singles match and, while Okada would be an obvious favourite, I think they're going to keep him and Tanahashi separate for the time being.

Also, at New Japan's April 7th Sumo Hall show 'Invasion Attack' the NWA is invading New Japan;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex1RgW4918U

Eh...it better not be Kahagas.
 
Missed the Paul Bearer news til now. Dammit :/

I am pretty sure Taker can carry the urn out, and leave it in the center of the ring (or something symbolic like that) on Monday.
 

Aiii

So not worth it
I hope they pay some tribute other then the video package. Esp. now that Taker is on TV there should be something with him and Kane to lead in a 10-bell salute.
 
I hope they pay some tribute other then the video package. Esp. now that Taker is on TV there should be something with him and Kane to lead in a 10-bell salute.

WWE logic dictates that wrestler related deaths must be used to propel storylines further, see Eddie and also more recently Lawler's mother.
Kane and Taker to fight over the inheritance in Bearer's will for WM30.

Seriously though I need a video package and the bros of destruction hugging it out.
 

strobogo

Banned
I think it should be Taker walking to the ring with the urn, the lights go out, urn is left in the ring, Undertaker and Kane pose on the ramp.
 
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