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[Dr Duncan Steel]

They are not utilizing Bad News Barret properly.

Alright what comes first: The Renee Young Diva Day Off Shoot or a Wade Barret Match?

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[UberTag]

Jerry Lawler needs to start wearing some age appropriate clothing.

There's no chance of that ever happening.
He's going to be buried in one of those silly patterned T-Shirts of his.

 

[BertleTheTurtle]

Wasn't Taker promised? What happened to that?

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Alright what comes first: The Renee Young Diva Day Off Shoot or a Wade Barret Match?

...Barret match

Sorry Rafa.

 

[bean breath]

Strongly disagree.

Why isn't this toolbox banned?

 

[Evening Musuko]

You are now "part of the problem" and on the hook for the next 6 months. Congratulations.
And you even have a really cool NJPW shotglass as your avatar and everything.

It's a actually a New Japan Cup.

Oh well, time to make the most of it.

 

[gurudyne]

Alas, no Punk and no BNB either. Such a waste.

Duncan brother I love having you here. Don't let cynicism ruin you. We're all on a ride, we're all playing characters, and the world's a stage, brother.

Vince, showing an existentialist soft side in Wrasslegaf. It's been a weird Monday.

You know what this means...

Heavy got worked.

Man, poor Heavy. He suffered the most of all of us.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

It's a actually a New Japan Cup.

Oh well, time to make the most of it.

Get it? New Japan Cup

Man, poor Heavy. He suffered the most of all of us.

He made his bed. He now sleeps in it.

 

[McNei1y]

Wasn't Taker promised? What happened to that?

He and Punk got lost.

 

[strobogo]

The fact that the logical ending to the story and match is Bryan beating HHH, but that people still think of shovelman HHH and think it's likely HHH will win anyway, that makes the match a good one.
People don't actually know who will win, which will make it an exciting match.

After WM19, there is always a chance of the wrong choice being made.

 

[DMczaf]

DM is smiling from up above :')

Firm grip. Eye contact. Standing up.

Kid is going to go far in this business.

 

[bean breath]

They are shoving Reigns down our throat so hard like Fifty Shades of Grey.

Wot?

 

[Net_Wrecker]

gaf doesn't know how to do that
especially community gaf

The inclusive attitude of Community GAF is ruining This Business Forum.

I say we draft up a #HijackGAF revolt manifesto, and show these marks how to do things. WHO'S WITH ME?

I'm more surprised that a beanie is considered hipster

Have you seen him? The beanie certainly isn't making the case for any other kind of image. It's a grunge/hipster/new generation "too cool for school" hybrid. I don't have an issue with it, or at least I don't anymore.

 

[UberTag]

The Night Chicago Died - WrestleZone Editorial from @MarkMaddenX

WWE did what it had to do at Chicago: It owned C.M. Punk’s absence.

Paul Heyman came out and took the blame by placing blame. His promo was brilliant. Heyman was the only guy that could pull it off.

Heyman’s “pipe bomb” segued into a wrestling promo, which segued into a wrestling angle. Before you knew it, a wrestling crowd showed up. They exercised their self-perceived cool quotient by continuing to chant Punk’s name. But they chanted for the Usos. They popped for a tag-team title change. The fans are marks for Cesaro. They popped for him. They popped for Shield-Wyatts.

And life goes on.

WWE owns you. There just aren’t as many of you as there used to be.

But it doesn’t matter. Even though every barometer possible shows that interest in WWE is down, WWE has leveraged business to the point where it doesn’t matter. The WWE Network sucks out every last dollar from the true believers. The new television deal is going to put TV revenue through the roof.

Everybody in Chicago paid for their ticket. WWE 1, marks 0. The only things that got hijacked were your wallets and credit cards. Chanting “C.M. Punk” during slow points does not constitute “taking over.”

I respect Punk for taking a stand, and I’m not even sure what he took a stand for.

I do know that Vince McMahon has not yet addressed the subject of adjusting performer compensation now that PPV bonuses have been minimized by the WWE Network. Here’s an educated guess: The John Cenas and Randy Ortons – the very top guys – get their downside guarantees increased. Everyone else can go screw. You’re on TV. You’re living the dream. Just take what we give you and be happy.

McMahon’s failure to address this should be a big story. The lack of concern shown by WWE’s performers and by wrestling “journalists” is astounding.

I love the Wyatts. I’m not sure what to think about The Shield’s breakup. It’s being done in the most clichéd, formulaic way possible. But it’s also tried and true.

I love the interplay between HHH/Steph and Daniel Bryan. When Steph says, “We don’t listen to these people,” she’s not lying. The truth slips out. Excellent calculation by the McMahons: The fans can’t chant “C.M. Punk” and “Yes!” at the same time. If they hijack Raw on Bryan’s behalf, they can’t do it for Punk.

It’s good to see Paul Bearer go into the WWE Hall of Fame. It would have been better had it happened when he was alive. Inducting Bill Moody now is like Bill Murray eulogizing Harold Ramis at the Oscars after not talking to him for 20 years. Is Moody’s memory being honored, or merely patronized?

Cena has marbles. He shut up before cutting his promo, clearing room for the “C.M. Punk” chant. He talked…then cleared room again. Then he put Chicago over for its energy and passion. It wasn’t long before Allstate Arena was cheering him, however halfhearted. Cena plays the game better than anyone.

I’m surprised they didn’t play “Cult of Personality” and trot out Gillberg.

 

[Vylash]

This just in, a photograph from the future of Wrestlemania 30!

 

[Professor Beef]

Firm grip. Eye contact. Standing up.

Kid is going to go far in this business.

Whose hand did YOU ever shake?

*elbow drops a Bane mask*

 

[BoboBrazil]

Daniel Bryan getting beat down after every match he wins/the end of every show doesn't make a good story. His first time hitting HHH shouldn't have been when he was laying on his back either.

 

[Ithil]

After WM19, there is always a chance of the wrong choice being made.

That's what I mean. HHH's WM record is 8-9. So that match will be anything but predictable.
On paper, it would be, but factor who HHH is into it and suddenly it's uncertain.

 

[Rafa=FedKilla]

Alright what comes first: The Renee Young Diva Day Off Shoot or a Wade Barret Match?

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I'm gonna go with....

...Barret match

Sorry Rafa.

Oh man....


I can't stand to fly
I'm not that naieve
I'm just out to find
The better part of me

I'm more than a bird
I'm more than a plane
I'm more than some pretty face beside a train
And it's not easy to be me

 

[Spider from Mars]

Maybe Ponk will show up THIS THURSDAY NIGHT AT THE Strong Style 42nd Anniversary Show!

01. Sho Tanaka & Yohei Komatsu vs Suzuki-gun (Minoru Suzuki & Taichi)

02. KUSHIDA & Manabu Nakanishi vs CHAOS (Jado & Gedo)

03. Jushin 'Thunder' Liger, Tiger Mask & Super Strong Machine vs El Desperado,
BUSHI & Captain New Japan

04. G.B.H. (Togi Makabe, Tomoaki Honma) & Ryusuke Taguchi vs Bullet Club (Prince Devitt, Bad Luck Fale & Tama Tonga)

05. TenKoji (Hiroyoshi Tenzan, Satoshi Kojima), Yuji Nagata & Kazushi Sakuraba vs CHAOS (Toru Yano, Yujiro Takahashi, Takashi Iizuka & YOSHI-HASHI)

06. Hirooki Goto & Katsuyori Shibata vs Bullet Club (Karl Anderson & Doc Gallows)

07. Hiroshi Tanahashi & Tetsuya Naito vs CHAOS (Shinsuke Nakamura & Tomohiro
Ishii)

08. Special Singles Match: Kazuchika Okada vs Kota Ibushi

 

[McNei1y]

Will YOU be watching Wrestlemania Thirty on the WWE UNIVERSE, BROTHER?

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Have you seen him? The beanie certainly isn't making the case for any other kind of image. It's a grunge/hipster/new generation "too cool for school" look. I don't have an issue with it, or at least I don't anymore.

You're a damned disgrace to your Clint Eastwood avatar. Change it immediately.

 

[Ithil]

The Night Chicago Died - WrestleZone Editorial from @MarkMaddenX

Let's not ever listen to Mark Madden. He's a dope.

 

[UberTag]

Let's not ever listen to Mark Madden. He's a dope.

Of course he's a dope. Doesn't mean he's not right.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

You're a damned disgrace to your Clint Eastwood avatar. Change it immediately.

Whoa. WHOA. Let's not say something we're gonna regret, okay. I never claimed to like the look, but clearly Sucker Punch isn't the best at character design, so I just have to accept it. No point in still getting annoyed when it's clear they aren't gonna change it.

And even if I don't agree with it, I HEAR them. I HEAR them every game, and I respect them for being honest about their designs. Respect, son. Learn it.

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Daniel Bryan getting beat down after every match he wins/the end of every show doesn't make a good story. His first time hitting HHH shouldn't have been when he was laying on his back either.

He already hit him with The Move That Beat John Cena back in HiaC. Then HBK gave him the SCM and cost him the match as the special referee :lol

 

[slightconfuse]

Lets talk about the masterful way they are breaking the shield up.

 

[BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!]

Whoa. WHOA. Let's not say something we're gonna regret, okay. I never claimed to like the look, but clearly Sucker Punch isn't the best at character design, so I just have to accept it. No point in still getting annoyed when it's clear they aren't gonna change it.

And even if I don't agree with it, I HEAR them. I HEAR them every game, and I respect them for being honest about their designs. Respect, son. Learn it.

 

[Officerrob]

Punk wasn't even in town. They sent AJ to get him to come back home to meet with Vince. I think she failed.

AJ doesn't know he's not even in town?

 

[bean breath]

Why do I feel like Emma is going to die from a drug overdose in a few years?

I laughed but this is horrible.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

Lets talk about the masterful way they are breaking the shield up.

Let's talk about how great Ambrose is with his crazy Thesz Press offense and crazy spasms.

http://i.imgur.com/WFw29QY.gif

HBK gifs always make me laugh. You win this round.

 

[VisionaryQuest0]

Let's not ever listen to Mark Madden. He's a dope.

Everything he said was accurate in that piece.

 

[G-Fex]

Wasn't Mark Madden that moron who used to commentate late WCW?

 

[avengers23]

I cracked up at Ambrose using McLariat's old pendulum lariat during the Shield/Wyatts match.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

Batista was still bitch made tho. How some people here still defend that main event is beyond me. Do you want a wrestling match or a social experiment?

Orton came off as such an afterthought as well, If Bryan isn't in the title picture, that shit ain't going last.

 

[bean breath]

Meanwhile.

Ithil, no one cares about NXT.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Whoa. WHOA. Let's not say something we're gonna regret, okay. I never claimed to like the look, but clearly Sucker Punch isn't the best at character design, so I just have to accept it. No point in still getting annoyed when it's clear they aren't gonna change it.

And even if I don't agree with it, I HEAR them. I HEAR them every game, and I respect them for being honest about their designs. Respect, son. Learn it.

Original Cole was inspired from Nate Fox's outward appearance while Nu Cole (pre-backlash redesign version) and Deslin designs came from Fox's fondness for the d-bag look.

 

[slightconfuse]

Seth Rollins coking out was awesome .

Cesaro is awesome

Bray is awesome

Just ignore the main event like its 2000 WCW

 

[G-Fex]

Ithil, no one cares about TNA.

I know right ithil!

but NXT has some pretty shitty wrestlers like the hype guy and flower child guy.

Paige however is way better than Emma. I still like Emma but I fell in love with a new blonde dancing beauty

 

[gurudyne]

Lets talk about the masterful way they are breaking the shield up.

I love it. Rollins getting fed up mid-match and telling Ambrose/Reins to get their shit together and they sort of almost do in an awesome ending sequence is one of the best ideas anyone in creative's had for a long time.

 

[UberTag]

Wasn't Mark Madden that moron who used to commentate late WCW?

Yep, the one in the same. Man, he was awful... but then it's not like late WCW provided him with a quality product to provide commentary for.

I love it. Rollins getting fed up mid-match and telling Ambrose/Reins to get their shit together and they sort of almost do in an awesome ending sequence is one of the best ideas anyone in creative's had for a long time.

This booking is the best thing I've heard that's come out of tonight's RAW. I will need to check this match out. Seems logical that they're building towards a triple threat match for the US title at WrestleMania right now. Can't see it going any other direction.

I'm going to guess that Melzter's excuse will be "Things changed."

Dave always has an excuse.
My counter is that he was "in" on this one - either consciously or unconsciously.
There was an active agenda to troll the fans tonight. Either Dave got duped or he was in on the shenanigans himself.
Which, frankly, jeopardizes F4W's credibility in my eyes.

 

[avengers23]

I'm going to guess that Melzter's excuse will be "Things changed."

 

[tm24]

I love it. Rollins getting fed up mid-match and telling Ambrose/Reins to get their shit together and they sort of almost do in an awesome ending sequence is one of the best ideas anyone in creative's had for a long time.

The entire Shield/Wyatt thing took over the Punkverse and it's really weird how good it's booked. The Punkverse got incursioned

 

[gurudyne]

I'm going to guess that Melzter's excuse will be "Things changed."

Or he was misquoted. What's the original quote on all of this anyway?

 

[Spider from Mars]

Gurudyne, I'm expecting that Mania 3 review on my desk soon!

 

[PInk Tape]

Everybody in Chicago paid for their ticket. WWE 1, marks 0. The only things that got hijacked were your wallets and credit cards. Chanting “C.M. Punk” during slow points does not constitute “taking over.”

This whole hijack thing was an awful idea. If you really wanted to protest, then don't support them with your money. Don't buy tickets,
merch, or subscribe to the network. You're still giving them money for a product you don't even like; they won't listen or care until the
money stops coming in (and lets be honest it's not happening anytime soon).

Spoiler

I'm tired of beating this dead horse.

 

[bean breath]

That's the point.

Someone doing something on NXT is the equivalent of making six people excited.

Basically, NXT is meaningless.

THANK YOU.

 

[Net_Wrecker]

I love it. Rollins getting fed up mid-match and telling Ambrose/Reins to get their shit together and they sort of almost do in an awesome ending sequence is one of the best ideas anyone in creative's had for a long time.

Agreed. Top notch in-ring storytelling and a great mess of a match. The Shield, just in general, and Bray Wyatt's promos are being delivered to the shows from some alternate universe like 5 minutes before they go on air. On a different level from the rest of the show, and untouched by Vince.

 

[Sweeney Tom]

I'm past the point of feeling bad anymore.

Batista's winning the belt at Mania. We've known this for months now. We all deserve it. The crowds deserve it at this point. And I'm sad that I was ever against it happening in the first place. This is the best thing.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

That's the point.

Someone doing something on NXT is the equivalent of making six people excited.

Basically, NXT is meaningless.

So are you saying it took six people to take down WWE Network's MLB livestream?