Dr Duncan Steel
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That sign may be marky as fuck but you'd be lying if you weren't a bit giddy if this actually carried out.
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March Wrasslin' |OT| The NXT Era Has ArRIVED
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slightconfuse
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one good thing about TNA was Championshops changed on DQs. but they got rid of the rule at some point
By that logic though, what would stop a challenger from simply having one of his friends do a run-in and attack him and get him a quick DQ win?
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Because it's wrestling and you need to suspend your disbelief at some points? If you want to pull a Lambda and act like everything should be UFC or logical then why wouldn't the challenger just have a friend run out and attack them if it meant that they'd win the title through DQ?
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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I thought about that, but if the guy who interferes is obviously his friend, then the ref should be smart enough to not end the match based on that.
1) Pride. Belt's supposed to mean you're the best in the world. Why not prove it if you can? Save the low blows as last minute saves if things go sideways.
2) Fear. You DQ yourself often enough, the boss is going to ream you with a no DQ match against the biggest bastard he can find. Most heels who would auto DQ themselves fall into the chickenshit category, so the idea of getting pummeled with a chair from some 400 pound monster doesn't jibe well.
3) They're not that stupid. Even if they aren't afraid of pain, they work in an entertainment industry and to DQ themselves all the time would lead to a pink slip.
Well, if a champ would open a match with a low blow or blatant attempt to DQ himself I think the same thing would happen.
I actually don't mind the "no title change on DQ" rule. The whole idea that the champion has to be actually beaten appeals to me. Plus there's still some inner child in me that wants to believe wrestling is real and that the rules make sense and all that shit.
From Seth Mate's twitter
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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I just find it to be a pretty dumb rule.
Though still not as dumb as the four-way tag matches that WWE pulls these days where where only two can be in the ring and you have to tag in your opponent. That's just retarded.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I'd also add that DQ finishes can add to a feud or character. If a heels driven to go for a blatant DQ because they know they can't win it should be a huge deal a rile the fans, or maybe they're a chick-shit heel who lucked into the belt and can only make wins through DQs. I think the issue is that DQ finishes (in all matches) became far too prevalent on cards.
Speedy Blue Dude
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No one wants the Wyatts. No one.
From Seth Mate's twitter
Also, I'm down. Not like it matters though, WWE will just mute the mics/crowds and keep going.
I fixed it!
The thing I do agree with is TURNING YOUR BACKS on stuff you don't care about. Not BOOING or CHEERING, but actually showing indifference. That's the one thing that shows fans aren't interested.
I wish I remembered the soccer game that had every single fan holding up a newspaper while the visiting team was being introduced or something along those lines. Just saying "We don't give a fuck. Just gonna read today's paper instead."
I would MARK if enough fans did something like that.
I wish I remembered the soccer game that had every single fan holding up a newspaper while the visiting team was being introduced or something along those lines. Just saying "We don't give a fuck. Just gonna read today's paper instead."
I would MARK if enough fans did something like that.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I agree it's dumb but a whole lot of wrestling is dumb, you just need to roll with it.
I don't really mind those 4 way tag matches, the rule is that only 2 people can be in at a time is the rule so it makes sense. On top of that having 4 team but only 2 in the ring can create a better flowing match and presents opportunities for some pretty cool spots; such as at Shimmer last year when Portia and Nicole ended up being tagged in at the same time which lets them pulla douchey heel routine.
With that said I think there are times that it's stupid. Hardcore, cage, or any kind of no DQ tag matches where there are no rules and people abide by standard tag rules are fucking dumb.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
I've always really liked the Tornado tag matches, and I always found it weird they rarely do them. Is there a reason WWE doesn't do more Tornado Tag matches?
SquashMatch
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This.
Turning your back is something they cannot mute or edit out. This would be something that Vince would pay attention to.
If you get a few hundred people on the same page, that could potentially start a wave of followers. I don't think it's going to happen, but I'd be curious to see it just for the shock value of fans sending that kind of message.
I'd just like to see how WWE would try to edit that out of history
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Listening to Cena on the Stone Cold podcast really irked me at points. He shouldn't be content with the crowd verbally shitting over his matches because it's a reaction; if they were smarter they'd do nothing at all. On a different note him talking about how he had to take risks and how nobody backed him got on my tits given his debut revolved around him nearly beating Angle as a nobody.
From Seth Mate's twitter
Needs more "stop feeding the machine."
One in a million chance of it happening though Alucard.
At most we'll get the same old tired CM Punk chants mixed in with some yes thrown in.
I'd just love to see them chant during a match like the Orton/Cena match. That was great!
nice one persp. There's a few users I'd like to say the same kind of thing to.
HerbertFish
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So fucking terrible and dumb. Great crowds comes naturally.
From Seth Mate's twitter
lovely ladies
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The Marine 3 did not win any awards tonight.
awards?
lovely ladies
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Oscars! (or the awards that copied the Slammys)
Net_Wrecker
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"Natural" crowd have gotten us nowhere, and the WWE actually ignores reactions pushing forward with their plans no matter what.
It's time to manufacture change. Release the hounds of complaining, and Believe In The Smarks.
Oh god, this sounds like the worst thing ever.
WhoaIsThatMars
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I'm really not looking forward to tomorrow's show
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And some Vines...
Are You Ready?: https://t.co/tQpAHbFixK
SWING: https://t.co/x03ds3t5Ya
The Worm: https://t.co/lmOtcCMGiz
Bo killing Neville: https://t.co/UfqaDNqzPI
Here's a new GGG political speech. Fuck his politics, but holy shit, he has them eating out of his hand. We need these promos on TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MS2snm0oE#t=80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MS2snm0oE#t=80
It'll happen and they'll ignore it unless they need fodder for a heel promo, ala SD. Should it become a chronic issue for that town, they'll either win the local fans back in other ways (DBry title run, Punk return, 5 star match, what have you) or cut it out of the live show tour until things die down a little. WWE's a TV show, not a live show so much anymore, which is why their top guy can get shat on in front of live audiences with no panic--the WWE's heavily invested in revision and spinning as creative media. It's also why isolated incidents of fan revolt never hurt them at all--if boos/cheers/hostile reactions are infrequent enough, it doesn't hurt the show's limited continuity.
But all of that isn't to say mass revolts don't have an effect on the show. It just isn't an immediate or obvious one. Chronic mass fan revolts like this can't help but shake things up, regardless of how stubborn the company might be about doing things their way. If nothing else, fan reactions feed other fan reactions and the casuals pick up on this. It affects the market, driving popularity for the show and more importantly, certain wrestlers which we've seen is the biggest aspect of making someone a draw. Enough people making enough noise for long enough changes things.
TL;DR: If fans cheer/boo/sit on their hands consistently enough, the show will change around them. Also, the WWE is weirdly invested in being at pretendsies war with its fanbase.
Net_Wrecker
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When The Smarks fix This Business with a total rejection of the WWE's garbage, always remember you were on the wrong side of history.
If it means I'm in the opposite side as joekilla, im good with that
Terrabyte20xx
Junior Wrestlemania XXX Champion
So at what point do we pick sides as to whether or not Tomorrow will be an awesome RAW, or a terrible one?
We need to draw a line in the sand.
We need to draw a line in the sand.
EMMALUTION IS A MYSTERY
BIONIC-ARRRMMM!!
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What a retarded thing to get banned over. Even the the Miz has better comebacks ffs.
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