Yes the heel where the production truck lowers the audience noise on his entrances and recuts recaps to make the crowd look sympathetic to him. Give it up.
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March Wrasslin' |OT2| The Rollercoaster to WrestleMania XXXIII!
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Yes the heel where the production truck lowers the audience noise on his entrances and recuts recaps to make the crowd look sympathetic to him. Give it up.
I just admitted like two posts ago that #Iamtheproblem.
But I'm also at peace with not caring about anything at all. Shane McMahon wins? Cool. Romando wins and they pretend like the fans are going wild for it? Great. Stephanie McMahon and JBL headline for the Undisputed Championship. Faaantastic.
Also, I have a sickness and you should apologize.
Brian_FETO
Banned
It's Austin vs. McMahon, but the crowd is in Austin's role
Brilliant way to bring back the Attitude Era, this is wrestling
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
He's your heel. Doesn't mean he is to kids and women. The demographics have expanded far beyond what they were in 1999, man.
"Casuals like faces and hardcores like heels" is dated. Anyone watching NXT or Raw knows this, why do you guys keep propping it up as universal truth in 2017? Insane split reactions for the top stars are what wrestlers want, Kevin Owens says so himself on the Austin podcast two weeks ago. This reaction is where you'll find your new Rocks and Austins.
I already bought my Ghost in The Scarjo tix. I was going no matter what, but pretty happy it's at least above 50 as of today.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Best underdog babyface story in wrestling right now
So... was Hogan supposed to be a heel in the '80s? Because he was always doing dick moves then. I think you're in too deep, Liu Kang Baking A Pie.
Marvel at least knows how to properly book a good face character, though.
Well I, um, er...
I got nothing.
brother.
Hogan was booked as the face of the WrestleMania 8 feud with Sid Vicious, a feud that started because Hulk Hogan was a salty bitch about being eliminated from the Royal Rumble and interfered in the match to get Sid eliminated
Hogan was also the face of the Macho Man feud because Macho Man had the gall to call out Hogan being a spotlight hog
He's not my heel. I don't care about him.
They're pissing in everyone's face and you're saying it's rain. Nobody's buying your schtick.
blackaroni
Member
Isn't that what Undertaker is doing now?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Vince has always booked in this weird vindictive way where he thinks we all like seeing faces get justice by doing that shit, when honestly most of us are just looking for Good Boys to get invested in.
Hogan wrestles like an asshole because he's being an asshole to the heel being an asshole to him for months.
If you didn't care, you'd talk about him like all of us talk about Ziggler and Crews: not at all.
I can't step in this damn thread without Roman constantly being the topic, discussed endlessly by boys who swear they don't care about him.
HazySaiyan
Banned
I was referring to the Persona thread, I haven't looked at GITS. Don't think I dare...
"You guys, it all makes sense because Roman is a heel"
"Also he's a face. Demographics?"
Did it get a 7/10 from somewhere?
Nocturnowl
Member
There's some merit to the argument of alternative heels existing these days (Eva Marie and The Drifter leap to mind). With Roman though, it's like only half there, he's got one foot dipping slightly into the pool of smug heel like mannerisms and another much deeper in the overcoming the odds cheer me superface.
Taker didn't interfere in the Royal Rumble to get Roman eliminated after Roman eliminated him though
I have no need to be arguing about any of that shit. Football, WWE, and our dumbass President is enough.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Oh weird
HashtagLapsed
Member
The problem with this whole thing is a heel is someone people pay to see get beaten. A heel isnt just there to anger people wether it is go away heat or not. You want to see the person gets beaten by the face.
It makes no sense to split youre audience on who is the heel and who is the face. It is self defeating and stupid.
It makes no sense to split youre audience on who is the heel and who is the face. It is self defeating and stupid.
LOL
blackaroni
Member
Guys, Roman is not a good guy. He's not a bad guy either. He's THE guy. Triple H basically said the same thing.
Also, WWE actually has a trending video on YouTube.
Also, WWE actually has a trending video on YouTube.
Upon the examination of the galaxies of space, images begin to appear...
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Yes!
We've been waiting so long for WWE to get self-aware and start booking to our reactions, and since they started actually doing it, the people who think they're too smart for wrestling are seemingly eating it up. It's like watching us devolve into the embarrassing way casuals react to heels on Instagram, thinking we're above the thing we're doing as we constantly talk about how much we hate these darn heels we keep watching.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Diagnosis: Mark
I agree. The alternative heel thing has merit. Whether or not it was intentional is up for discussion, but it's a good excuse for what they do and I see some logic in it.
But it seems like easy mode. To me, it's just admitting "our wrasslers aren't good enough and/or we're not smart enough to make everyone cheer faces and boo heels."
Have you announced the date yet?!
But it seems like easy mode. To me, it's just admitting "our wrasslers aren't good enough and/or we're not smart enough to make everyone cheer faces and boo heels."
Have you announced the date yet?!
it's incredibly simple but many marks in this thread are looking at it way too closely and I understand why/how
The REALITY though is that Wrestling has the simplest, dumbest scripts on TV, and that includes actual kids show
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Dude, do you really think people aren't fucking psyched to see Roman getting beaten any time the possibility is there? People even loved Sheamus doing it.
Finishers and finishes only matter to us when they're protected. When Super Cena and Super Roman are rarely beaten, and you fucking hate them, you're there when Owens, Styles, Jericho, Zayn, Balor, Joe, etc. are the challenge. We see it every month as the same people who say they'll stop watching are still here talking Roman.
Did you guys think they booked Joe vs Roman on Joe's first Raw because Joe would be the heel to hardcore fans?
Then why do you watch WWE?
It's trash. I don't watch TV wrestling. I watch PPV events only. I'm an addict.
We are all addicts.
Addicts.
is it any worse than the gaming review threads though? those actually make me depressed
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Seriously, christ. Some of the mental gymnastics fan go through with trying to figure out everything that's coming is silly. Just sit back.
Dragon Gate is complicated
But it is also simple.
I like Dragon Gate
I also hope Mania is over soon so this thread can stop inducing headaches
The night is darkest before the dawn, brother
31GhostsIV
Banned
Lolz
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avengers23
Banned
Frame rate and resolution discussion makes me sad. It's the only aspect of games people seem to care about
HazySaiyan
Banned
Don't think so, you thinking of Zelda?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
The New England Patriots cheated in the Super Bowl. They won. People hate them. Do you think Patriots fans overwhelmingly bailed their team after this scandal, or do you think they just dug in and really got into the feuding with other teams' fans?"You guys, it all makes sense because Roman is a heel"
"Also he's a face. Demographics?"
Pro wrestling is now like sports rivalries, not Disney face vs heel dynamics. The Disney dynamics are there for kids and casuals to understand and for us to have a framework of expectation, but those silly storylines aren't going to sustain our interest. What sustains our interest are Big Matches where everyone picks their side and has the some of the most fun they've ever had in wrestling for 20 minutes as we each pull for Our Guy.
Depends on the average age of the posters. Is it better or worse that Zach is like 46 years old?