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[Mahonay]

Then why do you watch WWE?

It's trash. I don't watch TV wrestling. I watch PPV events only. I'm an addict.

We are all addicts.

Addicts.

I'm absolutely an addict to ridiculous dumb shit like wrestling.

The last thing you'll find me doing is trying to pretend WWE is anything more than garbage entertainment, that has it's moments here and there.

 

[Caderfix]

I just admitted like two posts ago that #Iamtheproblem.

But I'm also at peace with not caring about anything at all. Shane McMahon wins? Cool. Romando wins and they pretend like the fans are going wild for it? Great. Stephanie McMahon and JBL headline for the Undisputed Championship. Faaantastic.

Also, I have a sickness and you should apologize.

This is too much, Zach. I can understand and respect a lot of things, but you along with Kaladin single handedly ruined the WWE and all for what? To get back at them for WcW's fate?

I'll not only not apologize, I'll also never forgive you... AND Kaladin.

 

[klonere]

I like to think I'm better than everybody because I watch Japanese men with no regard for their health or wellbeing take unnecessary risks in front of ~1000 or less people for very little monetary gain.

 

[Recall]

I'm absolutely an addict to ridiculous dumb shit like wrestling.

The last thing you'll find me doing is trying to pretend WWE is anything more than garbage entertainment, that has it's moments here and there.

It used to be better. That's why we linger. We know it can be great again and the hope of it one day returning to form is what drives the discussion forward.

 

[Kaladin]

This is too much, Zach. I can understand and respect a lot of things, but you along with Kaladin single handedly ruined the WWE and all for what? To get back at them for WcW's fate?

I'll not only not apologize, I'll also never forgive you... AND Kaladin.

You're a mark too and you know it. #OneOfUs

 

[Mahonay]

The New England Patriots cheated in the Super Bowl. They won. People hate them. Do you think Patriots fans overwhelmingly bailed their team after this scandal, or do you think they just dug in and really got into the feuding with other teams' fans?

Pro wrestling is now like sports rivalries, not Disney face vs heel dynamics. The Disney dynamics are there for kids and casuals to understand and for us to have a framework of expectation, but those silly storylines aren't going to sustain our interest. What sustains our interest are Big Matches where everyone picks their side and has the some of the most fun they've ever had in wrestling for 20 minutes as we each pull for Our Guy.

 

[kiguel182]

Wrestling is really not this complicated. Christ.

It really isn't. Or should be.

 

[Recall]

I like to think I'm better than everybody because I watch Japanese men with no regard for their health or wellbeing take unnecessary risks in front of ~1000 or less people for very little monetary gain.

I just watched Stan Hansen lose in front of 53,000 people to a sudden Kobashi small package. I'm cool too.

Match was fun by the way.

 

[Zach]

Do you think Patriots fans overwhelmingly bailed their team after this scandal, or do you think they just dug in and really got into the feuding with other teams' fans?

Pro wrestling is now like sports rivalries, not Disney face vs heel dynamics.

How do you think this is true? Again, you have some interesting thoughts there, Liu Kang Baking A Pie, but you're also a madman. People generally are lifelong fans of sports teams. People change from liking/disliking wrasslers all the time, for various reasons.

I'm just not following and don't care anymore. Love you, bye.

 

[imBask]

friendzoned by Zach! that's rough

 

[Foggy]

Zach dropping a diss track out of nowhere

 

[jmdajr]

I'm absolutely an addict to ridiculous dumb shit like wrestling.

The last thing you'll find me doing is trying to pretend WWE is anything more than garbage entertainment, that has it's moments here and there.

It's ok to like dumb things. We all need to unwind. I can't explain why this works for me but it always has. As far as TV goes, it has been the one thing I have never given up on.

Spoiler

Thanks Cena

 

[Into the Light]

How Paul Levesque used the lessons he learned as a wrestler to build WWE’s new brands
http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/03/27/wwe-triple-h-paul-levesque-nxt-cruiserweight-brands

I like the way this guy thinks.

If anything, he thinks in terms of 2017, not 1985.

 

[Mahonay]

friendzoned by Zach! that's rough

Takes some real effort. Zach puts out for anyone usually.

 

[MrPressStart]

I swear, the Miz is gold for them. Dude has had the best stuff hands down over the past 6 months.
People can talk all the shit about the guy they want, but he is doing great stuff now.

 

[Caderfix]

You're a mark too and you know it. #OneOfUs

Friend, I said no to 3 free months of the network!

Spoiler

If the Hardys come back I'll subscribe for sure.

 

[Recall]

It must never forgotten that even during the periods of WWE so many of us love that there were always people complaining that it was no longer good.

To some WWE went to shit the moment Hogan arrived. To others WWE went to shit the moment Austin turned heel.

There has never been a single moment ever where every wrestling fan admitted what they were watching was good. They always wanted better.

 

[ReiGun]

WWE isn't that deep to me. I watch it because it's dumb brain candy I can use to decompress after a day spent stressing about bills or what have you. I don't even care that it's not great a lot of the time because it's fun coming into this thread and ripping on the show with y'all.

 

[HashtagLapsed]

Dude, do you really think people aren't fucking psyched to see Roman getting beaten any time the possibility is there? People even loved Sheamus doing it.

Finishers and finishes only matter to us when they're protected. When Super Cena and Super Roman are rarely beaten, and you fucking hate them, you're there when Owens, Styles, Jericho, Zayn, Balor, Joe, etc. are the challenge. We see it every month as the same people who say they'll stop watching are still here talking Roman.

Did you guys think they booked Joe vs Roman on Joe's first Raw because Joe would be the heel to hardcore fans?

Look at Reings win loss record on the profight db thing. I dont think people will pay to see Reigns get beaten. I think people will pay to see guys they like win. They just want Reigns (or the way he is booked) to go away. It isnt the same thing because as we have seen, it is very unlikely Reigns will lose or that things will be satisfying for the "hardcore" audience.

But whatever. If this was such smart booking the network would be growing and ratings wouldnt be eroding year after year.

 

[FlammableD]

Best underdog babyface story in wrestling right now

I for one am glad to see WrassleGAF coming round

 

[Mahonay]

I swear, the Miz is gold for them. Dude has had the best stuff hands down over the past 6 months.
People can talk all the shit about the guy they want, but he is doing great stuff now.

He's been an amazing character. One of the best in the company.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

It must never forgotten that even during the periods of WWE so many of us love that there were always people complaining that it was no longer good.

To some WWE went to shit the moment Hogan arrived. To others WWE went to shit the moment Austin turned heel.

There has never been a single moment ever where every wrestling fan admitted what they were watching was good. They always wanted better.

Oh yeah. I remember people complaining about The Rock nonstop when he was on top. Anyone talking about the Rock's prime now acts like we all loved him, but his repetitive catchphrases, moves of doom, and unapologetic promo burials were a serious thing with the '90s IWC.

 

[Menome]

Don't think so, you thinking of Zelda?

I was referring back to the Breath Of The Wild shitstorm as to why people might be getting ugly in the Persona 5 review thread. I'm not treading in there.

 

[Kaladin]

WWE isn't deeper than Saturday Night Live. At it's best it's a good variety show centered around wrestling. That's all it needs to be. Bring the comedy, bring the action, bring some drama, bring the heat. Wrestling is SNL with a ring.

 

[Tall4Life]

Just for the record, the New England Patriots have never cheated, and that's a shoot

 

[jmdajr]

It must never forgotten that even during the periods of WWE so many of us love that there were always people complaining that it was no longer good.

To some WWE went to shit the moment Hogan arrived. To others WWE went to shit the moment Austin turned heel.

There has never been a single moment ever where every wrestling fan admitted what they were watching was good. They always wanted better.

I have a co-woker who quit when NWO took over.

He basically told me. "I couldn't stand it. Bad guys winning week after week. It was horrible."

 

[Zach]

It must never forgotten that even during the periods of WWE so many of us love that there were always people complaining that it was no longer good.

To some WWE went to shit the moment Hogan arrived. To others WWE went to shit the moment Austin turned heel.

There has never been a single moment ever where every wrestling fan admitted what they were watching was good. They always wanted better.

Shut up, Recall. WWF/E has never been good. Some months/years/eras have had more great segments/matches than others, but overall, it's always trash and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Unlike us WCW fans. What a fine wine WCW is! Three cheers for WCW! Hip hip...!

 

[Recall]

Just for the record, the New England Patriots have never cheated, and that's a shoot

Shooting up steriods more like.

 

[Brian_FETO]

People keep buying tickets so we're doing something right

Not like there's anyone else on the product

-WWE

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

I for one am glad to see WrassleGAF coming round

By WrassleGAF, you mean the four or five of us who are following progress?

 

[jmdajr]

Oh yeah. I remember people complaining about The Rock nonstop when he was on top. Anyone talking about the Rock's prime now acts like we all loved him, but his repetitive catchphrases, moves of doom, and unapologetic promo burials were a serious thing with the '90s IWC.

I remember HHH having smark fans. Those were the days.

But we sent him a gift basket so it's cool now.

 

[Kaladin]

I have a co-woker who quit when NWO took over.

He basically told me. "I couldn't stand it. Bad guys winning week after week. It was horrible."

Bad guys have to win or you'll never care about the babyfaces.

 

[SomewhatGroovy]

By WrassleGAF, you mean the four or five of us who are following progress?

Six.

 

[Menome]

I like to think I'm better than everybody because I watch Japanese men with no regard for their health or wellbeing take unnecessary risks in front of ~1000 or less people for very little monetary gain.

Well, there's a tag for Klonere if ever I saw one.

Might help OwensIsBlind in telling us apart too.

 

[FlammableD]

By WrassleGAF, you mean the four or five of us who are following progress?

have to start somewhere

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Look at Reings win loss record on the profight db thing. I dont think people will pay to see Reigns get beaten. I think people will pay to see guys they like win. They just want Reigns (or the way he is booked) to go away. It isnt the same thing because as we have seen, it is very unlikely Reigns will lose or that things will be satisfying for the "hardcore" audience.

People were very into his feud with AJ last year. We wanted to see AJ win. It's the same thing that happens whenever someone gets into a feud with Cena. It's coincidentally somehow nearly always guys anyone who hates Cena would love, battling an obstacle they talk about few overcoming. Weird!

But whatever. If this was such smart booking the network would be growing and ratings wouldnt be eroding year after year.

No one said it's smart booking, which is why it's all the funnier it's so hard for some to understand. Like people think they're immune to works now, but they'll still believe the legends about how much Andre drank or how otherworldly strong he was.

You have people like Cena, Reigns, Triple H, Owens, Austin, etc all talking about how the mixed reactions are part of the work, explicitly telling you how wrestling is working, and everyone's like "nah, you just suck at making wrestling good. But I still watch and talk about you all the time."

 

[Heroman]

By WrassleGAF, you mean the four or five of us who are following progress?

Don't worry you won't be for long if WWE has there way.

 

[Recall]

Shut up, Recall. WWF/E has never been good. Some months/years/eras have had more great segments/matches than others, but overall, it's always trash and you should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Unlike us WCW fans. What a fine wine WCW is! Three cheers for WCW! Hip hip...!

WCW was trash, that's why they died. The NWO did its job and killed WCW...with a lethal dose of poison.

 

[Tagyhag]

Bad guys have to win or you'll never care about the babyfaces.

That's true, but I can understand why someone would quit at NWO, bad guys won week in and week out for what, 2 years?

 

[sf2fanatic]

Neville is so God damn good, I hope he stays heel and fights for the world title someday.

He'll be the next Mysterio.

 

[HazySaiyan]

I was referring back to the Breath Of The Wild shitstorm as to why people might be getting ugly in the Persona 5 review thread. I'm not treading in there.

It's nowhere near as bad as the Zelda thread but it's still pretty dumb

 

[imBask]

By WrassleGAF, you mean the four or five of us who are following progress?

how many of those are just your split personalities

 

[Kaladin]

WCW was trash, that's why they died. The NWO did its job and killed WCW...with a lethal dose of poison.

 

[Zach]

Anyone talking about the Rock's prime now acts like we all loved him, but his repetitive catchphrases, moves of doom, and unapologetic promo burials were a serious thing with the '90s IWC.

I didn't and don't love him. He was pretty good sometimes. His repetitive catchphrases, dated, sometimes hateful promos, and oftentimes crummy wrestling always turned me off. But I guess I'm not included in "anyone" in this hypo. Conveniently.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Are ya'll ready to go go go?

 

[Heroman]

WCW was trash, that's why they died. The NWO did its job and killed WCW...with a lethal dose of poison.

Nwo didn't kill WCW , WCW killed WCW.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

how many of those are just your split personalities

You can call me DUUUUUUUUDEpitCarnivore

Don't worry you won't be for long if WWE has there way.

Yeah, if Progress becomes WWE UK then Sexsmith is out for sure. The guy isn't great in the ring and his character is so not WWE.

 

[Zach]

I killed WCW.

 

[Mahonay]

Are ya'll ready to go go go?

GIMME DA GREENLIGHT

 

[Bronx-Man]

WWE will never be able to find a massive generation-defining face that can get entire arenas chanting for them! Fans don't do that anymore!


Oh wait a minute