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March Wrasslin' |OT2| The Rollercoaster to WrestleMania XXXIII!
- Thread starter Bluekaveli
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X-Pac heat is we don't want to see you heat and no one wants to see eva.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
It's exactly the same. They know you hate them, so they put them in a scenario where you're free to really, vocally hate them as the tension within you builds, and then you feel good when they get the pie in the face. It's heel shit.
Don't speak for me! I'm like Corey when she's around. It's always going to be fucking hilarious, like whenever Kevin Owens is around and wants to really punk someone. Eva gets the smarks going, thinking their loud, vocal, enraged reactions to everything she does is them not caring about her, when it's just them getting worked to hell.
HazySaiyan
Banned
Yeah I mean I wouldn't do it after like a month
I literally skip all Elias Samson matches.
[GWF President Sephzilla steps to the podium]
Ladies and gentlemen, I am here to formally announce that at GWF3 we will have the first ever iron man match in GWF history. Zach and Menome have both agreed to the match and have agreed to the following stipulations;
Ladies and gentlemen, I am here to formally announce that at GWF3 we will have the first ever iron man match in GWF history. Zach and Menome have both agreed to the match and have agreed to the following stipulations;
- One; the match will be an iron man match with a 20 to 30 minute time limit. Details on the specific time limit of the match are still under consideration by the GWF front office.
- Two; in the event that Zach loses the match, the name he will lose control of the "B.J." nickname he has been using lately. The nickname will now be the control of Menome. GWF officially doesn't condone this non-PG nickname.
- Three; in the event that Menome loses the match, he will rescind the right to the word "filth". Right of the filth catchphrase will become property of Zach.
- Four; in the event of a draw the match will be restarted under sudden death rules with a no disqualification stipulation in place.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Why wouldn't you if you dislike him + have seen enough wrestling to get what's going to happen? That's what heels do! People in the '70s and '80s would've fuckin' loved to FF through heel shit instead of having to yell about it in the arena.
When the Drifter appears on the main roster after WM, he's going to get booed out of the building, and it will be incredible. This is wrestling, man.
blackaroni
Member
I can't wait until Vince buys GWF and closes it down.
FallingEdge doesn't even deserve a title shot. The dude is more of a part timer then Lesner.
Lol I don't think their goal is to get me to turn off the wrestling.
I watch Roman and Eva stuff, because yeah they get legitimate heat and there's presence there.
Elias fucking sucks.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
Whole bunch of ladies for the women's tournament in two months! I want Thunderkitty, Saraya Knight, Lufisto, Vanessa Kraven, and Su Yung.
You're not turning off wrestling. You're watching it weekly and commenting about it constantly. You just don't like your heels, but for some reason you think you're above that emotion.
A good heel would make people want to watch the match due to the possibility of him/her being defeated. If you make people stop watching you are not a good heel, you are a bad wrestling character.
This is also why Attitude Era Vince McMahon worked so well as a heel while Stephanie McMahon is completely unbearable.
Saddest admission in WrassleGAF history. And that's saying something, TAFKALKBAP.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
He's only had boring squash matches or has been the person being squashed.
This is going to read really silly after his Loser Leaves NXT match this week.
I'm not talking about Elias Samson, I'm talking about your idea of heel heat.
As long we get JTG back, then we're cool.
Eva Marie absolutely carries X-Pac heat at this point. Everyone knows she's the drizzling shits in the ring. She's not good on the microphone. She doesn't even really have a gimmick beyond "she's hot". Eva Marie showing up is bathroom break material because you know you're going to get nothing good out of a segment involving her.
Beautiful!
Although, if it goes to a draw, I think the feud should continue into GWF 4. Maybe... with even higher stakes!
Personally it is sad because a Mania payday after not being around for what six months?
She is no Undertaker.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
The decades-long wrestling fan in me doesn't understand why you guys think the heels are supposed to be entertaining to you. It's a lucky thing you only sometimes get with funny stars like Flair.
If you're turning it off for one person in hours-long shows with dozens of other people, you probably just aren't interested in the product at all. Or the babyfaces aren't convincing and engaging enough for you to want to see them succeed. Or you're exaggerating here.
If you're turning it off for one person in hours-long shows with dozens of other people, you probably just aren't interested in the product at all. Or the babyfaces aren't convincing and engaging enough for you to want to see them succeed. Or you're exaggerating here.
I'm literally fast forwarding when Elias Samson shows up on screen. I am factually not watching him.
I never talk about Elias because he is awful and useless. When someone tries to compare him to a Roman Reigns, yes I'm going to chime in.
Your bad opinion elicits emotion, dadeh.
A solid villain who you want to see be defeated is entertaining. All of the greatest heels in the history of the business were people you still tuned in to see, or see get beat. A villain who makes you disinterested in a story or makes you not watch the product at all is a bad villain - this is something that is true beyond just wrestling.
Zack vs Menome in a I quit gaf match.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/tools/lp/Bo/LogicalFallacies/94/False-Dilemma
Spend a few more decades reading this.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak7iRejCxHc
The reaction at the pin here isn't X-Pac Heat. That would be people sitting on their hands not caring that this conclusion happened.
Are you saying the characters aren't black and white anymore? That this thinking is... passe?
Good! Me too!
That's it. I'm disbanding the black and Zach Express.
Maybe the decades-long wrestling fan should open his mind and read the replies sent to him. If I HATE a heel and want to see him being beaten up or put in his/her place, I'd watch the show hoping such thing would happen. If a heel makes me stop watching, like Eva for example (the only person that causes me to skip matches when I'm watching the product, other than Enzo and Cass), it's because there's no real heat there, it's just boring.
Having that in mind, is only my opinion about her, and you are entitled to your own, but I don't see how that's something hard to understand.
You're conveniently ignoring the fact that this match happened when Bayley was the most over person in NXT. The pop that happened here was a combination of Bayley in general being the most over person on the roster at the time (aka: a pop like that was inevitable) and people being happy that we were past the Eva Marie storyline at this point. If you factor in the bigger context of that storyline and Eva's NXT run in general, she was getting full on X-Pac heat.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
I haven't seen a single Bray Wyatt segment in probably a year. Doesn't mean he isn't a top heel.
She hasn't been on TV in a year and people still talk about her. She's over, regardless of any of our personal opinions on her wrestling talent. This has been how wrestling has been since I've ever known it.
Bluekaveli
Member
The thing that made punk punk they didn't allow him to do until what? 3 years later?
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
What people? How many? Have a consensus?
Yeah, love that the dude was an extra before gaining any traction.
You like Elias Samson more then Bray Wyatt. Welp. Ok.
Into the Light
Banned
She seemed to be making good progress before her unfortunate suspension.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
If you're talking about someone, they're over.
Anyone have strong opinions on Dolph Ziggler and Apollo Crews they want to fight about with me for hours?
He's hilarious. He's playing a heel and nailing it. Bray Wyatt rambles and is never funny.
Nobody talks about Eva Marie anymore, the only reason it got brought up was because someone here remembered that she's been gone for a year. And her return to the main roster went over like a giant wet fart.
Someone mentioned Ziggler on this page. Someone talked about Ziggler! This is irrefutable proof that he's over!
Someone mentioned Ziggler on this page. Someone talked about Ziggler! This is irrefutable proof that he's over!
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
Member
X-Pac heat came from his gradual lessening of heat ending with him in a tag team with Albert and Justin Credible called the X-Factor. No one cared, and they were greeted with silence or the crowd going mild. This is nothing close to any reaction Eva Marie has had since mid-2015.
Ziggy nor Apollo are worth fighting for.
