Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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...that's my point.
A page later after she's been brought up: everyone really seems to care.Replace Dodson with Eva Marie
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March Wrasslin' |OT2| The Rollercoaster to WrestleMania XXXIII!
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blackaroni
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I miss Eva Marie's biggest fans, Vylash and Bionic Arm.
We're not even talking about Eva Marie at this point. We're arguing that you have some really ridiculous conceptions about what is "over"
BronsonLee
Member
I am Goldberg?
British Monsoon
Member
Just me that won't be suckling from Vince's corporate teat this weekend, then?
Fine, that's fine. Enjoy the show.
you'd probably fit in one of his boot
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Just me that won't be suckling from Vince's corporate teat this weekend, then?
Fine, that's fine. Enjoy the show.
I'm watching a local Indie show here in Austin.
Edit: scratch that. Had my dates wrong.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Over
One definition describes it as being popular with the audience.[1] Another definition describes it as achieving the desired reaction from the fans. Babyfaces who are over will be cheered, and heels who are over will be booed. Sometimes particular aspects of a performer's presentation may be over (such as a specific move they perform or their ring entrance) without the performer themselves being considered over.
You guys think you're supposed to like Eva Marie or think she's talented?
Corrections for my GWF Stats a few pages back
1) BronsonLee is actually not undefeated
2) Korly is part of the 3-Win Club in GWF
She's not getting the desired reaction though. She's supposed to be getting booed because she's a good villain. She's getting booed because she's boring and sucks at her job.
When a really shitty player in the NFL gets booed do you think it's because that player is talented?
In the Minis League.
Don't worry you'll be soon enough.Just me that won't be suckling from Vince's corporate teat this weekend, then?
Fine, that's fine. Enjoy the show.
People talk about her when she's brought up during a discussion or stipulation, which is pretty normal for any wrestler. Is like saying Apollo Crews is over because we keep bringing him up to say he's got no charisma when someone references him or in a situation in which pointing out he's got no charisma shows up. But that's not what I'm arguing here, the point I'm making is "If a wrestler makes people stop watching, that's not a good sign, it doesn't matter if it is a heel or a face".
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Jinder put roids over big.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Sure, if you want to keep mentioning him for pages and get in arguments about him and others jump right in happy to do it just like every time his name is brought up. But this won't happen, so I'm not seeing your point.
slightconfuse
Banned
In fore all the Flo Slam stuff. This weekend is going to get me to sub
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
As of this post, Nia Jax is over. Copy?
Heels getting booooooed is good.
Heels not being able to wrassle worth a lick, completely ruining one's ability to suspend disbelief, is probably not so good. Like, if I'm saying "why am I wasting my time with this?", I'm leaning towards that not being good heelmanship.
But that's just one man's opinion.
Heels not being able to wrassle worth a lick, completely ruining one's ability to suspend disbelief, is probably not so good. Like, if I'm saying "why am I wasting my time with this?", I'm leaning towards that not being good heelmanship.
But that's just one man's opinion.
Over GWF's wellness policy, that's the explanation for your streak. #Shoot.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Well, what makes a wrestler great at their job? Goldberg is Universal champion and has been a reliable draw (who knows if he still is in 2017 yet), but he's never had talent for the business. Hogan can work a match, but he hasn't been presented as an athlete or good hand since the AWA.
In the end, if Eva is presented as someone who gets opportunities the public wants others to have, and if the fans respond to her accordingly and with volume every time she's around, is she not over?
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
Not sure why you're cussing. Somewhere down the line your parents failed you.
Your parents are now over. So is the line. The line is over too.
Just me that won't be suckling from Vince's corporate teat this weekend, then?
Fine, that's fine. Enjoy the show.
I'm honestly scared to look at the schedule and figure out just how much sleep I can do without.
Definitely watching all the EVOLVEs, Janela's show and PROGRESS. After that I'm not sure, it'll be whatever I have time to see.
Over rated maybe
slightconfuse
Banned
You guys got worked by Liu Kang baking a work
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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😎
blackaroni
Member
Are afternoons over? Beefy won't shut up about how good they are, but no one else seems to care.
Over the hill orange racist
Afternoon's are great man. Evening, Blackaroni.
Is this you admitting you just want to work people instead of actually having a discussion?
This one got me
Goldberg only worked one style of match but he worked that style of match really well. He was also average on the mic back in the 90s (present day Goldberg is actually a good promo). Hogan was actually a solid promo in the 80s and was a respectable worker (especially when he worked Japan).
We're gonna find out who's over once and for all this Sunday at
What the hell is up with his eyes?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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My point is that fans have never really gotten what constitutes a work or if they're being worked, and it's obvious to me when I bring up a controversial opinion and watch people talk about me and the opinion constantly while acting like they're above their feelings. There's a disconnect that comes from us thinking we know it all while we respond exactly as expected to any of the usual stimuli.
The standard "IWC" type fans argue forever about how much someone sucks and we hate them, but why do we talk about these people all the time? Is Eva actually just terrible, or is it a combination of her being terrible + the company seeing that we see that? Isn't that what we've always said makes for the best wrestling gimmicks, when someone is presented in a fashion that's in touch with how the fans are responding? Is Eva supposed to be a good hand workhorse or something? She's got her gimmick, and she's nailing it.
Bluekaveli
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Everyone was like, omg cm punk was at wm 22.I was like huh(didn't really follow roh, only knew of it.) so then I got the wm 22 dvd I think for middle school graduation and was like, oh ok. Lol
There's pain shooting out of his eyes because he separated his shoulder posing for this shoot
Bluekaveli
Member
Or he shitted in someone's expensive bag maybe.
SomewhatGroovy
Banned
You just did. OVER!
Nah, see the darkness in the background? That's Sister Abigail.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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You just posted a few times rapidly about her when you really could have just ignored it like I ignore you guys when you talk about someone I don't give a fuck about. I just brought up Ziggler and Crews and you straight up said you don't care and haven't posted about them again, and no one here can muster up a single emotion about them.
Is it that you don't give a fuck, or do you give more than you would want to admit?
Brian_FETO
Banned
God what is this mark shit
Is this the Ultimate Thrillride?
Is this the Ultimate Thrillride?