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Mariah Carey releases 14th studio album - Me. I Am Mariah...The Elusive Chanteuse

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Touchdown

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The album is full of manipulation and production around Mariah's voice, to be honest. I wouldn't be surprised if the album took so long because Mariah took numerous takes of just saying single words, and then having the engineers patch only the most divine sounding vocals together. Still an amazing album though.

Full of manipulation? hmmm. I disagree. Cry. is basically just her crooning over a piano. The Art of Letting Go has the least amount of production and manipulation of any song I've heard in the past 5 years.

I need a better receipt than that. The quality of that video is very low and there is a lot of distractions going on with all the confetti crap.

Mariah is a master magician.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlObJAlSi78
 

royalan

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To be honest, her voice is polished in SOME songs, but you can hear the true quality of Mariah's vocals in songs like Cry (which is honestly the most "flawed" I think Mariah has EVER let us hear her sound in a studio recording) and the "You Don't Know What To Do" intro, which is just her straight up singing with very little accoutrements to mask her vocals.

Mimi's voice is in fine shape on this album.

Speaking of You Don't Know What to Do...I LOVE that intro...


You need to go
Don't look so surprised
Cause we had a love
That won't be immortalized
Say you need me now
So lost without me now
But our little romance is through
Because BAsically BOy, you
You just don't know what to do
OHHHHHHHHHHHHH



That intro is SO Mimi.
 

Crazyorloco

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On the final track of the album she explains why the album's title is so simplistic. The rear album art is a drawing she made when she was three:

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3? Hell no. It's hard enough drawing a face at three. There's a bunch of details and advanced shapes here. She was older when she drew this.


And she knows how to write... -_-
 
One of her very best albums, now if she can get back to how she looked last year, that was hot.

3? Hell no. It's hard enough drawing a face at three. There's a bunch of details and advanced shapes here. She was older when she drew this.


And she knows how to write... -_-

There are interviews from years back where she's shown/talked about this picture, it wasn't like it was made up for the album (like some believe).
 

Mumei

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I never understood why people disregard her voice in the studio. If it's not her voice who's voice is it? It's not Miley's voice i don't think. I don't think it's Leona's voice. It's not Celine's voice.

Because a person's voice can be manipulated in the studio in such a way that it sounds more impressive than what the person is actually capable of. Case in point. She's no way, no how capable of doing that live.

In truth, most any singer's studio performance is manipulated like this at least insofar as adding extra resonance. You never hear just a straight mic feed when you listen to a pop performance, anyway. Even something like that Whitney performance of How Will I Know isn't just the mic feed; it's the post-production vocal track. This is what Mariah sounded like in 1997, for instance, on a straight unenhanced mic feed. Compare it to the final studio performance, and you should hear how her voice seems bigger and, well, enhanced. You can hear the damage in her voice much more apparently than you can hear it in the final studio version. You can even hear the part, at the climax, where two different runs are edited together which is sort of disguised in the final version!

And her voice is in better shape than it is has been in awhile, but you need to be drinking a special fanboy Kool-Aid to believe that the higher belted notes aren't the result of multiple takes and vocal layering. When she sings notes above C#5 live these days they tend to be very rough and that performance of The Art of Letting Go is a great example of that issue. Granted, there are some exceptions to the trend; for whatever reason she sings impromptu notes (e.g. Love Takes Time) or I'll Be There (the C#5s/E5s) much better than she sings them in other songs.
 

tmarques

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Best-selling female artist of all time? Did they finally prove Madonna is a man?

According to Hits Daily Double, the diva’s latest release is tracking for an opening week total of just 65-70,000.

Ouch.
 
Come on bros and broettes, how did you fall for Baconbitz's trolling like that.

The real blemish on Mariah's honor is that she dated Eminem.
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3phemeral

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Come on bros and broettes, how did you fall for Baconbitz's trolling like that.

The real blemish on Mariah's honor is that she dated Eminem.
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And yet, for all his braggadocio about having dirt on her in the form of compromising pictures, he's yet to produce any. Hmmm...

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GQman2121

Banned
Is the album good? I can't translate all the pop gaf craziness.

I've listened to it twice now and it's not as good as her previous three albums. But that's just me. There are far more hits than misses. I don't think it's as good as anything she's done in the last ten years, but that doesn't mean it's still not a good outing.
 

Mumei

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It wasn't shade; it was just a change of pace from always using Christina as my go-to example of a singer who uses the studio to do things she isn't actually capable of. Everyone knows Rihanna can't actually sing, after all.
 

royalan

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It wasn't shade; it was just a change of pace from always using Christina as my go-to example of a singer who uses the studio to do things she isn't actually capable of. Everyone knows Rihanna can't actually sing, after all.

...see what I mean?
 

Esch

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It wasn't shade; it was just a change of pace from always using Christina as my go-to example of a singer who uses the studio to do things she isn't actually capable of. Everyone knows Rihanna can't actually sing, after all.

Did Rihanna get leapfrogged in the industry by a 14 year old looking imitation cooked up in Nickelodeon labs though?

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I have no training in vocals but it's pretty easy to determine Rihanna can't sing. There's nothing wrong with that of course - Mick Jagger can't really sing, neither can Bob Dylan and they both have made quite a bit of great music. My problem with Rihanna is that she seems like little more than a studio creation. Every year the best writers provide her with reference tracks/hooks, the studio cleans up the vocals, and we get a top 10 hit record. The meticulous, machine like precision is Motown-esque, not on a talent level but just in terms of how quickly the stuff is shipped out.

Personally I only like a couple of her songs, the rest make me shake my head. On the flip side Ariana Grande can clearly sing and has a few tracks I like, plus reminds me of my favorite restaurant (Taco Bell). Win win win.
 

Nameless

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Mariah needs to hire her self a skilled acoustic guitarist and rock it like that going forward. I absolutely adore her voice, but this is the second straight album filled to the brim with hot garbage. On songs that aren't overproduced or blatantly trying to recapture that 'Emancipation' magic, she sounds subdued, bored, and disinterested. Just an all around dry and mechanical offering--a waste of one if the most beautiful voices ever.
 

Touchdown

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Mariah needs to hire her self a skilled acoustic guitarist and rock it like that going forward. I absolutely adore her voice, but this is the second straight album filled to the brim with hot garbage. On songs that aren't overproduced or blatantly trying to recapture that 'Emancipation' magic, she sounds subdued, bored, and disinterested. Just an all around dry and mechanical offering--a waste of one if the most beautiful voices ever.

Really? I disagree completely. She put so much effort into this album (years worth), I thought you could really feel her emotion on it, compared to Memoirs and even E=mc2.
 

Frodo

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After listening to it again, I kind of like Thirsty and Make it Look Good.

But if there is one thing I don't like about this album is why does every single song need to have some sort of sound (like someone pouring a drink, or someone writing or drawing something on paper) or a conversation before the song actually starts? Gets very annoying after a while... /rant

Edit: Meteorite is also all right.
 
Mariah needs to hire her self a skilled acoustic guitarist and rock it like that going forward. I absolutely adore her voice, but this is the second straight album filled to the brim with hot garbage. On songs that aren't overproduced or blatantly trying to recapture that 'Emancipation' magic, she sounds subdued, bored, and disinterested. Just an all around dry and mechanical offering--a waste of one if the most beautiful voices ever.

Bored and subdued..?, the emotion is there. Are you really not hearing emotion in Camouflage? the end of Cry? Supernatural?
and the rest of the tracks

If you're interested in acoustic type songs though:

Help Me Make It: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8PkXNwwS5Y
Right To Dream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNrxL6dlWCM
 

DMeisterJ

Banned
It wasn't shade; it was just a change of pace from always using Christina as my go-to example of a singer who uses the studio to do things she isn't actually capable of. Everyone knows Rihanna can't actually sing, after all.

Mess, everyone has been so pressed since Rih has proved she was a vocalist, hitting those whistle notes performing "The Monster" with Eminem a the MTV Movie Awards. And the lies that Rihanna can't sing. Must not have seen her multiple televised performances of "Diamonds" or her performance of "Stay" at the Grammys last year.
 
Mess, everyone has been so pressed since Rih has proved she was a vocalist, hitting those whistle notes performing "The Monster" with Eminem a the MTV Movie Awards. And the lies that Rihanna can't sing. Must not have seen her multiple televised performances of "Diamonds" or her performance of "Stay" at the Grammys last year.

her SNL performance of Stay remains one of my faves, personally (and 23.5 million views!)

sad that some are unable and unwilling to accept her total domination of global pop music culture, the likes of which haven't been seen since her predecessor whitney.
 

DMeisterJ

Banned
her SNL performance of Stay remains one of my faves, personally (and 23.5 million views!)

sad that some are unable and unwilling to accept her total domination of global pop music culture, the likes of which haven't been seen since her predecessor whitney.

This truth! Rihanna is the supreme vocalist of our generation, and the lack of credit she gets for being a vocalist like Whitney is truly saddening.
 

Xena

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Came into this thread to read the impressions on the album (loved it, especially It's a Wrap)... read the first couple pages...thread delivered more than I asked for haha.
 
Mess, everyone has been so pressed since Rih has proved she was a vocalist, hitting those whistle notes performing "The Monster" with Eminem a the MTV Movie Awards. And the lies that Rihanna can't sing. Must not have seen her multiple televised performances of "Diamonds" or her performance of "Stay" at the Grammys last year.
I know it's a trap and that I'm stupid to even reply to this mess, but for the people and the sistren, I must submit that yelping like a rabid dog in heat does not equate to hitting what you generously dubbed "notes," let alone "whistle notes" :-3

By the way, after relistening to Emancipation of Mimi, I can't place this album even near it. The quality of her vocal delivery in 2003 (when she recorded most of TEoM) was the best since her mid-90s material, and I don't think she'll ever get back to that place where her raspy whispering was actually pleasurable to the ear.

I Wish You Knew

This song perfectly demonstrates the balance she reached between tender whispering and unrestrained belting, all with a clean and refined delivery.

Lord, it's so depressing what happened to such an incredible voice.
 

Touchdown

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NIELSEN SOUNDSCAN BUILDING CHART
Rank LW
BB 200 Artist Title
1 1 Coldplay "Ghost Stories"
2 NEW Mariah Carey "Me. I Am Mariah… The Elusive Chanteuse"
3 NEW Austin Mahone "The Secret"
4 2 Brantley Gilbert "Just As I Am"
5 4 Soundtrack "Frozen"
6 6 Various Artists "Now 50"
7 3 Michael Jackson "Xscape"
8 5 The Black Keys "Turn Blue"
9 NEW Cher Lloyd "Sorry I'm Late"
10 NEW Royksopp and Robyn "Do It Again"
The Building Chart reflects the first four days (Monday through Thursday) of SoundScan's tracking week (which ends Sunday) as reported by six major merchants: iTunes, Trans World Entertainment, Best Buy, Starbucks, Target and Anderson Merchandisers. Billboard estimates that they make up about 85% of all U.S. album sales.

Rise Mimi rise!!!

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MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
I'm watching this special on TV because my GF of ten years loves Mariah. I think her album is actually pretty good. It's no Emancipation of Mimi but its still pretty good.
 
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