Mark Rein: "I'd be shocked if Wii U doesn't do well." UE3 better than Zelda Demo.

He wouldn't be able to say anything even if it was up and running right now on it so that's a pointless assumption to make.

How do you know what he would or wouldn't be able to talk about though? That's an assumption as well.

Wait and see, but personally I'm not expecting UE4 on the Wii U. If it happens, it will be a pleasant surprise. If it doesn't, well, I won't be disappointed.
 
Technically it is, they've been put under NDA by "someone" regarding the UE4 demonstration.

It makes no sense for Nintendo to do that since their platform has been confirmed and is coming out in several months. Sony and Microsoft, however, don't want to officially confirm their new consoles yet.
 
He used the word "shock" and its past tense variant twice in that interview. I have reasonably deduced that this is a subtle confirmation that the Wii U console will be "shockingly" disappointing to Nintendo fans, and that the hardware is akin to number two--defecated matter. It is poo poo.
 
What I read: "Wii U is great. Nintendo still have profitable IP and brand recognition, so we probably won't be making games for it, but if we did we'd make something more impressive than the Zelda demo with UE3."

What others are reading: "Wii U isn't UE4 compatible" "Wii U might be UE4 compatible"
 
It makes no sense for Nintendo to do that since their platform has been confirmed and is coming out in several months. Sony and Microsoft, however, don't want to officially confirm their new consoles yet.

Nintendo won't even let publishers put the Wii U logo on any games already announced...

He used the word "shock" and its past tense variant twice in that interview. I have reasonably deduced that this is a subtle confirmation that the Wii U console will be "shockingly" disappointing to Nintendo fans, and that the hardware is akin to number two--defecated matter. It is poo poo.



The fuck is this?
 
I wonder how it feels to have everything you say be interpreted in a million different ways to a point that the main thing you were talking about is ignored. Anyways surprising to see him talk positive about this thing, and i'll take that last bit as not currently intending to work directly on wii u.
 
It makes no sense for Nintendo to do that since their platform has been confirmed and is coming out in several months. Sony and Microsoft, however, don't want to officially confirm their new consoles yet.

Everything related to the Wii U is still under NDA (game announcement, etc), so it could include UE4 support.
 
On the one hand he acts like he knows and has seen some pretty exciting things. He also seems aware of more than the general public knows in regards to Wii U and thinks Nintendo will shock most people come E3. So I think we can expect some exciting things from Nintendo this E3.

On the other hand he seems to imply that the system is still pretty close to PS3/360 range and that he likely isn't developing games for it unless they are just ports.
 
From the other thread.

As for UE4, however, Epic has been talking about it. No specifics in terms of specs or systems; but they've been talking it up as making Samaritan look "feeble." That consoles need to be bleeding edge.

And it's supposed to be unveiled with new hardware? Etc.

I don't know whether what's been floated in this string of threads would make Samaritan look "feeble." Although maybe Nintendo will surprise.

Lowered expectations. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed.
 
I'm getting tired of buying Nintendo hardware to play Nintendo games and very little else. I don't plan on being a day one adopter like I was for the GameCube and Wii. I pledge to finally be patient enough to wait and get one when there's a couple of their games to play.

I'll probably break that pledge...

I sort of agree with you, but then they'll announce Pikmin 3 for launch and I'll splooge and cough up as usual.

Also you don't gain so much by waiting. I guess maybe hardware price drops after a while, but Nintendo first party games don't really go bargain bin ever
 
Wii-U is going to live or die on the strength of its first-party software.

And most of all its price-point.
 
On the one hand he acts like he knows and has seen some pretty exciting things. He also seems aware of more than the general public knows in regards to Wii U and thinks Nintendo will shock most people come E3. So I think we can expect some exciting things from Nintendo this E3.

On the other hand he seems to imply that the system is still pretty close to PS3/360 range and that he likely isn't developing games for it unless they are just ports.

Where is this implied?

GAF... You baffle me.
 
Can't imagine Arkham City making that much of a splash. By the time the WiiU version releases the game'll be over a year old. Everyone who was interested in the game will have already played it by then. By that point I probably will have bought it on Steam for like $10 and played through it on my PC.

Are that many people really going to be interested in the tablet-controller gimmick to double dip on a year-old game?
 
Why wouldn't this be the case? UE3 scales all the way up to Samaritan, its not surprising to think that a UE3 game could outdo the Zelda demo that really only pushed high quality lighting.
 
I read it as 'You thought the Zelda demo looked good? UE3 can do even more on this hardware.'

But no, you jumpers are probably right. *rolls eyes*
 
It makes no sense for Nintendo to do that since their platform has been confirmed and is coming out in several months. Sony and Microsoft, however, don't want to officially confirm their new consoles yet.

neither does nintendo... unless you consider "confirmed" an hw that we don't know any specs of
 
Soooo he's saying there's a new build of UE3 that dramatically improves the quality of its textures, bump-mapping, and shadows?

Pretty interesting!
 
Let's spin it the other way for some variety.



OMG guise UE4 confirmed by E3 BOOK IT.

No, you're not doing it right.

Eye-opener. EYE. Get it? What eye-related thing is big in gaming graphics? Crytek. Their engine's logo is an eye.

CRYENGINE 4 WIIU EXCLUSIVE CONFIRMED. NINTENDO HAS DONE IT AGAIN.
 
Tell me Mark, does it look better than UE3 games on my old GTX460? I don't really want to upgrade, and PS4 isn't coming any time soon. I wish they could show a demo but it seems we'd just have to wait until E3.
 
Yeah, but considering that UE4 can't be confirmed for ANY platform at this moment, why would Mark suddenly spill about the Wii U?
Mark is currently pushing Sony and MS hard to go crazy on hardware which shows he probably thinks they are not there yet. I doubt Nintendo console will run it.
 
between getting a good look at the controllers, playing mario for the first time in a couple years on the 3ds, talk of pikmin 3, and this...im starting to feel a little excitement about wiiU
 
Epic isn't talking at all about specific platforms for UE4, and there's very little relating to Wii U that isn't currently under NDA.

It's by no means a foregone conclusion that Wii U will be able to run UE4, but I don't think anything can be inferred either way from that UE3 quote.
 
Mark is currently pushing Sony and MS hard to go crazy on hardware which shows he probably thinks they are not there yet. I doubt Nintendo console will run it.

Actually, we've gotten leaks saying that new dev kits were more powerful than previous ones and pushed to run UE4.
But hey, it's Nintendo right?
Always the weakest hardware, right?
Well, ok. Just for that one generation.
But once is a trend, right?!
 
Actually, we've gotten leaks saying that new dev kits were more powerful than previous ones and pushed to run UE4.
But hey, it's Nintendo right?
Always the weakest hardware, right?
Well, ok. Just for that one generation.
But once is a trend, right?!

-insert revisionist history post about ds and 3ds in comparison to psp and vita despite both being in line with the jumps made by nintendo handhelds that preceded them-
 
Actually, we've gotten leaks saying that new dev kits were more powerful than previous ones and pushed to run UE4.
But hey, it's Nintendo right?
Always the weakest hardware, right?
Well, ok. Just for that one generation.
But once is a trend, right?!
I don't really care so much if they run it or not, I'm basically guessing like anyone else. Wii U suddenly get from updated HD consoles this gen to something better than current top end PC's after somebody said that new dev kits are more powerful and Samaritan looks like crap compared to UE4.

I don't think you can go from something that runs UE3 or even DX11 UE3 Samaritan to next generation engine like UE4 just like that.
 
Actually, we've gotten leaks saying that new dev kits were more powerful than previous ones and pushed to run UE4.
But hey, it's Nintendo right?
Always the weakest hardware, right?
Well, ok. Just for that one generation.
But once is a trend, right?!

i'm afraid it's gonna fall on deaf ears, just like every is-not-doomed comment...

but keep fighting the good fight Ace
/fistbump
 
Where is this implied?

GAF... You baffle me.

"If I had 10 development teams I'd make a game for every single platform and make that the special game for that platform," replied Rein. "But we don't have 10 development teams so it's just a matter of picking and choosing what we do and doing the best thing we can for the idea that we have."

I think it is reasonable to conclude that he likely won't be making an exclusive game for the Wii U.

Also considering developer's comments, Nintendo's E3 showing and the fact that there are plenty of games anounced for the system that are ports of 360/PS3 games. I think it's a fairly reasonable observation to think that it will be in a similar range. I do think it will be more powerful but I don't think it will be a full generational leap over 360/PS3 based on plenty of comments about the system. I'm also not saying I'm right they could suprise and be much more powerful.

I was also being one of the fairly positive people about this information.
 
Unless Nintendo themselves say something before E3, Mark can't even mention or tease if UE4 runs or not on Wii U.

So, for the sake of the interview of course he'll say UE3.
Only item will tell. But this kind of information is not openly divulged on a random interview.

Is like back when Catherine was unknown for release outside Japan, some site emailed Atlus and Atlus said "No plans"; and many took that as confirmation..then, around a week later Atlus went and announced that Catherine was coming to US.
 
I don't really care so much if they run it or not, I'm basically guessing like anyone else. Wii U suddenly get from updated HD consoles this gen to something better than current top end PC's after somebody said that new dev kits are more powerful and Samaritan looks like crap compared to UE4.

I don't think you can go from something that runs UE3 or even DX11 UE3 Samaritan to next generation engine like UE4 just like that.

Wtf am I reading?
 
Are they adding stuff to Arkham city or something? I certainly hope so, as much as I loved it, I'm not sure many people are gonna get a game on the Wii U that they already played the shit out of last year.
 
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