PhoncipleBone
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Just adapt the Jurgens/Romita Jr. Dark Gods storyline from the late 90s series. That was badass.
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Just adapt the Jurgens/Romita Jr. Dark Gods storyline from the late 90s series. That was badass.
By gaining power through crime he can own most of the city as shape it to whatever way he likes. He already has many cops in his pocket. He has politicians in his pocket. He does illegal means to gain control of many infrastructures.
He wants to gentrify Hell's Kitchen but he also runs a drug ring through Madam Gao with the Russians as distribution. Nobu was the rep for a Japanese organization that financially backed Fisk.
So I've been thinking, what do you guys think are the chances that Civil War turns out to be a kind of prelude to Infinity War?
I may be overthinking it since there hasn't been much in the footage we've seen to suggest this but it's something I've considered in lieu of this really feeling like a cap focused Avengers 2.5 movie and the fact that all three movies were contracted together and have been in concurrent development by the same team since phase 3 was announced.
I may be overthinking it since there hasn't been much in the footage we've seen to suggest this but it's something I've considered in lieu of this really feeling like a cap focused Avengers 2.5 movie and the fact that all three movies were contracted together and have been in concurrent development by the same team since phase 3 was announced.
DonasaurusRex
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i think like all of us we are all projecting out to Infinity War because how can you not? But there will be a Dr Strange, Guardians, Thor, and Spiderman film before Infinity War hits so...this isn't the final step right before Avengers 3 or anything.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
If it's true that Thanos isn't in Guardians 2 and/or isn't even referenced, then I assume Dr Strange and Thor will share duties with setting up Infinity War.
Actually, it seems Dr Strange would be a good place to talk about the metaphysics of all the infinity stones coming together. Or maybe drop some words about Death and "mad beings" who worship it as a literal person, desiring Death's attention and favor.
Actually, it seems Dr Strange would be a good place to talk about the metaphysics of all the infinity stones coming together. Or maybe drop some words about Death and "mad beings" who worship it as a literal person, desiring Death's attention and favor.
Could confirm that Hela will be the MCU's version of Death.
And Black Panther!
[edit] I'd also like to take this time to point out that starting in May 2017, we're going to get six MCU movies in the span of 14 months, with the longest amount of time between movie openings being a mere 3½ months. Wow
Father_Brain
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I expect it to be one of the more self-contained MCU films, really.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Probably not because relying on putting a lot of your setup into a movie that they don't have complete creative freedom on can be a bad idea. They're also very big on making it a story purely about Peter Parker in high school I doubt they want to burden it with Avengers setups.
I'd imagine the Spidey solo films will be largely self contained with references or cameos from MCU characters.
Should just be like Ant Man, A smaller take.
Really doubt they'd screw with around with Thanos that much. Changing such a huge part of his character and the Infinity Gauntlet storyline to some B-Tier Thor villain would be ridiculous.
That's what I was thinking too
but saw folks listing it as a film before IG, and was like it is, but doubt it will really build much MCU mythology.
ratcliffja
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What is this? A movie for ants?
peanutbutterlatte
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I imagine "RDJ showing up to give a speech about what being a true hero means" was one of Sony's prerequisite for the Spidey solo deal!
Na. For Spiders.
Pai Pai Master
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Pfft, like Tony is even qualified for that.
If theyre building this from the blueprint of Ultimate Spidey, then there's a better chance of Cap showing up to give him that talk. But I guess that depends on how Civil War plays out.
More_Badass
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Wouldn't it be Fury? In Ultimate Spiderman, it was Fury who was his mentor and father figure
Pai Pai Master
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True, but given the current status of SHIELD it could be either. I'm thinking of Miles not Pete, my bad.
We know other MCU heroes will appear though and I think we can bet on it being at least one out of Fury, Steve and Tony.
The Fury/Peter relationship was one of my favorite parts of Ultimate Spider-Man, so it's a shame that can't quite work with SHIELD as it is. I think it could work with whatever government agency is set up in Civil War, though, with Tony (or whoever) helming it and acting as a mentor. Maybe.
S.H.I.E.L.D. is already back, tho.
Pai Pai Master
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Not as far as the public is concerned. If Coulson took SHIELD out of the shadows and tried to make it legit again I don't think it would be very widely accepted and the US govt would probably try to shut them down.
After the events of AOU its possible Fury is on the road to making it legit again. That has to be his ultimate goal with going dark.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
Newish logo, full casting announcements coming next week.
AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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I saw on another forum someone throw out the idea of reshooting parts of Hulk with Ruffalo replacing Norton, the new Hulk model replacing the old one, and with an Abomination that actually looks like the Abomination.
There was also the idea of reshooting parts of Ironman wih Cheadle replacing Howard. Calling those versions special edition/director's cut.
Sounds like an interesting idea to me and would fix part of what I think is wrong with TIH, which is the casting of Norton. It would also keep up with continuity in the MCU (as in using the same actors). However, how feasible would such a thing be? Can't imagine it would be cheap, so they would have to do a re-release in theaters to recoup costs (presumably leading up to Hulk solo movie sequel and Ironman 4 respectively). Also has such a thing ever happened? I know VFX updates have happened in SW movies, but reshootings with different actors? Can't think of any instance.
There was also the idea of reshooting parts of Ironman wih Cheadle replacing Howard. Calling those versions special edition/director's cut.
Sounds like an interesting idea to me and would fix part of what I think is wrong with TIH, which is the casting of Norton. It would also keep up with continuity in the MCU (as in using the same actors). However, how feasible would such a thing be? Can't imagine it would be cheap, so they would have to do a re-release in theaters to recoup costs (presumably leading up to Hulk solo movie sequel and Ironman 4 respectively). Also has such a thing ever happened? I know VFX updates have happened in SW movies, but reshootings with different actors? Can't think of any instance.
It's a waste of time and money. All of this. But that goes without saying.
The Incredible Hulk has even bigger problems than Ed Norton.
Terrence Howard was great as Rhodey.
semi off-topic but I don't give a fuck
Deadpool is the best Marvel movie I've seen since Winter Soldier, and that's saying something because I LOVED GOTG, DOFP and Ant Man. It felt so much like a MCU movie, much more so than any other Fox-made Marvel film. It's also rated R (something we'll NEVER see in the MCU), and totally earns that rating. It's a ton of fun.
They poke lots of fun at the MCU, too
Go watch it everyone. 2016's comic book movie season is off to a great start, now here's hoping BvS and Civil War continue this momentum!
Deadpool is the best Marvel movie I've seen since Winter Soldier, and that's saying something because I LOVED GOTG, DOFP and Ant Man. It felt so much like a MCU movie, much more so than any other Fox-made Marvel film. It's also rated R (something we'll NEVER see in the MCU), and totally earns that rating. It's a ton of fun.
They poke lots of fun at the MCU, too
Go watch it everyone. 2016's comic book movie season is off to a great start, now here's hoping BvS and Civil War continue this momentum!
Gordon Shumway
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Damn it..Can't wait for the Marvel version of...
NipplesAndToes23
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Oh, his aim is gentrification. They didn't make it quite clear that he wanted to re-up the shitty parts of it, but then I wonder about the ordeal with Elena. Wasn't the complaint there that her place was crap and no one was doing anything to fix it?
DonasaurusRex
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they tried to buy out the residents in that building so they could rebuild it , Fisk was gentrifying so he could give the various partners a piece of hells kitchen when all was said and done. His cover was gentrification with Elena he was trying to stall repairing the building so residents would give in and take the buyout.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
I've mulled over this thought before but as everyone else will say, it's an incredibly big waste of time and resources just to 'fix' things for continuity sake. A film like Iron Man can stand on its own, it doesn't need to be 'updated' so it can match the rest of the cinematic universe.
Besides, is anyone really bothered that much about Howard not coming back?
This hypothetical Hulk 'reshoot' isn't remotely possible. TIH is barely tied to the MCU anyway. For the most part I consider Banner's/Hulk's appearance in The Avengers as the character's first appearance in the MCU. You don't miss much by removing TIH.
That may change with Ross' appearance in Civil War. The Russos have said they wanted to include him because the Russos wanted TIH to connect more with the MCU.
I'm ok with that. Incredible Hulk isn't great but it's not as terrible as people make it out to be.
Broken Joystick
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I'm sure their intention will work a little, but we'll see how much of Ross carries over from TIH or if he's there just to be the old, white politician who don't want Avengers doing whatever they can with no consequence.
peanutbutterlatte
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Oh I'm thinking Stark is his lapdog in this movie. And Ross is going to enjoy that very, very much.
Late revenge for buying that bar.
It's the most forgettable though, imo. There are worse sins a movie can commit but not many.
NipplesAndToes23
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Thank you and I was wondering with Age of Ultron did they ever explain how the group reformed? It looked like they were doing it for a while, but you know in the first Avengers Nick set it up and they disbanded after that. What caused to come back together and do this on their own?
I don't actually think Incredible Hulk is that "forgettable" really. And it's certainly not a bad film. It's not a great one but in the long run I think if people go back and watch each one, they'll find something more unique about Incredible Hulk in the overall lineup than stuff like Ironman 2 and Thor The Dark World. Where Hulk succeeds is in being essentially a monster movie, and the casting is great. I liked Norton as Banner a lot. There's nothing quite like it in the rest of the MCU slate, which is a pity because I dig monster movies. When I try to recall Ironman 2, all I can think of is the Whiplash race track scene. Everything else might or might not be my memory assembling bits of Ironman and Ironman 3 together because the climatic scenes all feel so samey. Thor 2 is the real forgettable one. Essentially nothing of interest ever happens in it other than Loki quips. :/
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